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On December 28 2010 05:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LSB; while Annul doesn't have a very strong case against you, your defense was pretty pathetic. I've had a bad gut feeling about you for a while, it's not something I was planning on voting on but Annul did bring out all of the problems I had been having with your posts. I'm not voting you quite yet but I would like you to give more than one line answers whenever someone puts a fos on you. Consider this post a +1 for Annul's case against LSB. I'd like to see you take some time in defending yourself and not just brush it off because there were some good points in annul's post.

On December 28 2010 04:57 Barundar wrote:
I’m sorry to point it out, but I can’t help but notice how general and unproductive your posts are, LunarDestiny.


1) Lists are a good way to appear like you are contributing, without actually adding anything.

2) Pressure is not done in general, pressure is specific to make the player unable to hide. Your list of pressuring “all” inactives is the same as pressuring none.

3) There is a fine line between a plan, and suggestions that make you appear to be active while sending the town on a goosechase. Your plan requires no work from yourself (“we” should do this and that), is very general (“at some point”), and it’s limited to inactives instead of scumhunting, making it mechanic, so even when we hit town, the mafia is not guilty.

In general, the player list is a little more stacked with active players than Pokemafia/HPmafia, so inactives shouldn’t be as much as a problem (even if I just replaced one…)

On December 28 2010 05:20 LunarDestiny wrote:
@1)I want to ask you how should we put pressure on specific player to contribute. It would be bad if a mafia is calling out inactive townie. Also, who should we choose? Go to a list of inactive and randomly pick one of them and say "xxxx, please contribute."

@2)If the list is short enough (less than 10 people?), then the list is convincing enough to pressure people to speak up.

On December 28 2010 05:23 Jackal58 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
It's all good man. I don't feel like you're picking on me.
Like I already said day 1 lynch is a crap shoot.
Unless somebody really steps on their dick.

On December 28 2010 05:23 LunarDestiny wrote:

My respond is above. (Thought I could post right under without quoting)

On December 28 2010 04:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The problem is when we focus too much on inactives we start calling people scum just because they didn't post enough when the far more disturbing trend is posting a lot/posting big posts and saying absolutely nothing helpful:

On December 28 2010 05:25 LSB wrote:

I've seen it many times actually.

Kenpachi/Coagulation (Almost, but we switched)- Deconduo's Don't lose your village game
Me/Pyrr- TLMMM 2
Me- Harry Potter Mafia
Masq- Haunted Mafia
Bill Murray (Almost, but Ace made us switch x.x)- Penalty Mafia
And many others...

On December 28 2010 05:23 LSB wrote:

What's the difference between the two scenarios?

In both we are putting pressure on people to contribute. In both we need to make a list of inactives.

On December 28 2010 04:49 Pandain wrote:
1.I do not think we should vote LSB. Plainly, he has been contributing alot so far, more than most of the people already. Plainly, if he is mafia, then we'll most likely catch him anyway. We should not be lynching actives, even if we have a slight suspicion that he's mafia. Obviously if we have a good inkling I suppose we should go for it(as in team melee mafia 2 incog fingered lsb day 1) but right now there's really nothing on LSB, and I wouldn't want to lynch an expierenced player. Plus there are some problems with your analysis, but I'll just name a few.
       1. If you are hit, then u should claim. LSB was right. Becuase mafia can't tell if ur vet or just protected or what.
       2.You're mistaking jokes for real content. (aka when lsb said coag got banned so dr. h could join)
       3.The only real suspicious thing about him is his somewhat spammy nature.
The most important of which being number 3, but that is certainly not a reason to lynch him when he's already contributed alot.

On December 28 2010 05:34 LunarDestiny wrote:

Because if we do something like "xxxx you have not been contributing and that makes you look mafia, please contribute."
We get contribution like Mr.Wiggle which is good. But if the mafia is the one pointing fingers, then other mafia will be left alone. Also, we are targeting a smaller group of people compared to having a list of people.

On December 28 2010 05:33 Jackal58 wrote:

And the closest I've seen to that is TheMango. Yet he is not getting any love.

On December 28 2010 05:39 annul wrote:


this worries me

i already highlighted LSB's defense of pandain. now pandain is defending LSB on my FOS. in and of itself that is fine but his rationale is "if hes mafia, we'll catch him anyway" ... whaaaaaat?