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Edit: If people can't agree on a full list. I think we should at least be able to agree that we need to have a pick order for the most dangerous roles. | ||
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I'm still cool with the predetermined list. | ||
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I plan to follow it. | ||
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On January 10 2011 12:50 Fishball wrote: Oh hey, I found another one that doesn't read! Read the first sentence of the post above you. Hell, even Google takes about like 10 seconds. The more I reread my post, the more I agree with myself. No need to be so rude about it. I read posts. Sorry if I'm not looking for an what an acronym stands for in every post I read. I did google it and did not see an answer that made much sense to me. FoS stands for many things that are more popular than finger of suspicion. | ||
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On that note, I did not choose pardoner. Anyone making plans with the pardoner should stop. It's a bad idea. We most likely do not have a pardoner. If we do, then it is probably a scum that has it, and we can not hold him accountable, so if he does not want to pardon, all he has to do is pretend he is not the pardoner. I have to agree with bum and the rest voting for layoffrage. He seems to be the best target for me as well. ##vote layoffrage | ||
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On January 12 2011 05:33 LSB wrote: Actually, now that I think about it. What do you guys think about Deconduo shocking Jackal58, and lynching RoL now? This I can agree with. Each of these players have made a claim, with this course of action, it will tell us if they are lying or not. | ||
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If we're lucky, a lower pick that was not following the plan tried to pick up JOAT. | ||
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On January 12 2011 08:51 LSB wrote: What Kenpachi did was drastically anti-town. It was calculated First Kenpachi denied the JOAT role because everyone else thought he took JOAT. We just lost a huge role Secondly it denied the Copy cat role, something the town could have used. If Jackel58 still had the copy-cat role, we could lynch aidnai without worrying about his role. However when some random person decides to hide a red role, we can't trust him. Thirdly, no townie would take the Copy Cat role, because we already put the copycat role in Jackel58's hands. You are acting like people agreed with your plan. Like I already said, a lot of people did not. You can't treat it as if people were doing it. He had no guarantee that Jackel58 was going to take Copycat. While I don't agree with taking Copycat over JOAT, it doesn't make him scum. It seems likely that he did take copycat, however he hasn't actually said that he did. We could also be losing a powerful role, if we were to kill Kenpachi so early. He has to have something else good if he wasn't CPR or Copycat. I think we should be watching Kenpachi, but not lynching him day 1. He could still be of great use to us. | ||
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On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote: another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4) CC is in t4 unless Jackal is scum and is lying. I believe the plan is to have cpr kill him tonight, so we'll learn that tonight. | ||
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On January 12 2011 09:04 LSB wrote: I didn't take JOAT because I was pick 11. I figured someone in the t10 would have taken it by now. If i were pick 3. I would have considered it. Each player might value certain roles higher than others. Simple question. You are draft pick 11. Did you consider taking JOAT? Of course not, because you expected Kenpachi to take it. Likewise, we expected deconduo to take CPR doc, so no one took it. And Jackel58 was expected to take Copycat. If he has something good, well, he can claim and get protection. But would you lynch him if all he has is Copycat? unvote Vote: Kenpachi If he is copycat, I still don't want to kill him today. When day 2 starts, we will know what role he has or what roles he could potentially have and then make a decision from there. | ||
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What advantage do we gain by killing him today as opposed to tomorrow? I'd rather learn about the traitor threat today than deal with Kenpachi. You just keep talking as if your plan was followed. If people didn't want scum to know where each power role was, they wouldn't have picked straight off your list. It is pretty obvious that people valued having the role positions be unknown. Lastly he claims to not be CC. Which again means he has to have a good ability. We don't want to kill him yet. | ||
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On January 12 2011 09:39 Kenpachi wrote: uhh was he referring to LSB's plan? otherwise i dont understand what hes saying o_O I think he was referring to the plan on how to pick your 2 numbers to get an assigned spot. | ||
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On January 12 2011 10:34 Barundar wrote: It’s late here, but can anyone give me a reason for a town player to secretly pick CC over JOAT? I find it hard to imagine a more pro town role than JOAT, no matter what CC turns into, and if you don’t announce your change of heart, you will still be a prime target for the mafia. But could there be a reason? I made my choice clear before the pick, so someone else further down could take Bullet Bill secretly, and go unnoticed by SK/mafia. And I didn’t pick CC instead. So unless deconduo or Kitaman27 or Jackal58 is lying, Kenpachi’s it. Yeah, we all know that someone in the T5 is lying. LOR is still a safer lynch though. We risk losing a valuable role if we lynch Kenpachi at the cost of no useful info and at best we kill a scum/traitor. If we lynch LoR then at worst we lose a vanilla townie and gain some information, at best we lynch a scum/traitor. I have to argue for lynching LoR over Kenpachi. | ||
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So my vote goes to Jackal. Others should make a vote soon as well. We should have a clear choice for decon. | ||
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I'd like CPR to kill off Jackal. I'll also push for not killing Kenpachi quite yet anyways. I get the feeling he is actually bulletproof or something. And I don't think he should be punished for not following the plan. | ||
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On January 13 2011 13:34 LSB wrote: This is an important question. HaploPaithan, are you the doctor? I am not a doctor. | ||
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It would be nice to know if JOAT is out there and if he did attempt a kill last night. I don't really believe there is a JOAT in the game, unless a mafia or the SK picked up that role. I personally think there are 2 SKs. I don't really have any evidence for that. I just think its more likely. I am curious as to why I was targeted though, and will likely never find out until the end of the game. There is a potential for me to be targeted again tonight, so if a doctor would be willing to guard me, I'd appreciate it, however the doctor should probably do whatever he thinks, or the town thinks, is best. | ||
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On January 13 2011 14:33 Kenpachi wrote: I suggested the possibility of 2 SKs in the beginning of the thread and it was brushed off. BTW, i want CC to take day vig and kill me now before this gets out of hands.. It certainly seems possible now that there is at least some evidence pointing towards that fact. I don't see why either a mafia aligned or town aligned player would want to waste their day vig on you. I think you should reveal what your role is now. You're most likely going to die via lynch today or cpr/vig tonight. We'll find out then anyways, so you might as well let us know now. I personally believed that you were JOAT and just lying about it so that you wouldn't be targeted by a night action. But now that you're asking for death I'm not so sure. Perhaps you really are mafia. | ||
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Why did you think godfather was so important that you had to pick it so early? LSB, You were supposed to pick up Godfather. Why did you not report that it was taken? You're the one that suggested the pick list. You also suggested that everyone should report if they didn't get their assigned role. You didn't do this as far as I know. FoS on LSB. | ||
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On January 13 2011 15:02 kitaman27 wrote: Let me get this straight. You are a town godfather, yet you request the day vig hit, which would prevent you from using your "town" kp after lynch? In his defense, it day vig did kill him, it would prevent our most likely mafia or SK aligned CC from using the ability on someone that has a better town ability. Can a town GF do that? That's pretty neat if they can. And after re-reading it, it doesn't say that you can't. Even with the ability to kill someone that lynched him, I don't think we should be lynching him now. We gain a small amount of info in killing him and then we get to kill one other person, but from a smaller pool of people. Scum keeps some of there players from voting for him, and then we have to choose a player to kill, we could potentially end up killing someone we don't really want to kill. And then if he actually is mafia, he is gonna end up killing a townie(which could potentially be a fair trade). I think we can get some analysis done during the day and pick a better choice than Kenpachi. I think its most likely that Deconduo is CC with CPR as another mafia lower on the list. Its probably best to lynch him. Its lets us know how big of a threat CPR really is. As well as most likely killing a scum. ##Vote Deconduo | ||
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##Vote Deconduo Not sure if it actually matters. | ||
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On January 13 2011 15:07 LSB wrote: I response to Aidnai's question about me being godfather I replied I drafted Godfather and flipped Vanilla instead. However I did not say anything Firstly, it would cause unessisary cofustion for the town Secondly, it would deny the godfather fakeclaim against DT checks. Once I let loose that the godfather is wild, all mafia will claim godfather once the DT checks them. Lastly, I suspected some other townie tried to deny the role (because in reality, the godfather isn't that benificial to the mafia), so I kept silent so that I could vertify a godfather claim. Well that leaves deconduo Unovte Vote Deconduo It seems kind of convenient for you to be able to say that. The logic behind it isn't wrong, but you could just as easily lie about it after the fact and no one can really argue it. I don't really have anything concrete on you at the moment, but I do have a general bad feeling about you. While that's certainly not enough to try to lynch you, I will remain wary of you, and suggest that others do the same. | ||
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On January 14 2011 06:48 aidnai wrote: Anyone else think BC is scum? I'd rather have deconduo use his shot on BC than cubed, to be honest. I really think cubed is a doctor, and most likely town since I can't think of why a scum/sk would want that role. BC on the other hand was awfully quiet for like three days, and now he jumps in to spam FOS's everywhere (so far kenpachi, cubed, and now LSB). Cubed is giving me some pretty bad vibes. But I have to agree with you about BC. I'm quite suspicious of him. All in all a bunch of shit happened today. I'm still trying to work it all out. | ||
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##Unvote: Deconduo ##Vote: BloodyC0bbler I'll go ahead and put my DayVig vote towards LSB. My doubts about LSB can be summed up by everything that's been said recently. I feel LSB's death should go before BC because we get more info from LSB's death as well as my belief that he is more likely not town than BC. LSB has posted more and has been more aggressive than BC, so we can get more from an analysis of his previous posts than from BCs. I'd like to the get the most information as soon as possible. I also have to agree with the general consensus about BC and I don't think he should survive. Next off I absolutely don't think we should be letting Deconduo live. However I'll let it slide for the day since he is doing us a favor if/when he uses DayVig. We can finally be absolutely certain that Kenpachi isn't CC. Plus we get to control his night kill if he wants to continue to live. | ||
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We will very likely be lynching Fishball soon. You aren't making yourself look any better by making such a stupid offer. | ||
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If LSB is scum, well they don't have much use for the traitor if he is likely to die soon anyways. Lets face it, Fishball is likely to die in the next day or 2, I was actually under the impression that Kita was going to shoot him tonight, so hunting down the traitor doesn't really hurt scum too much at this point. LSB is trying to get the town off of him and focused on the traitor again. Then after Fishball dies and turns up as traitor(most likely) town forgets they were investigating LSB. | ||
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ou posted in such a way to imply that either they are mafia or you are, and that once we are done we find out which, we can stop supecting the other. Thats not the case. | ||
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So far no mafia has died. I don't see how they would be killing two of their own. | ||
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We need to decide on a person for Kita to kill tonight. List of likely targets. Cube - Lied to town in a effort to scare the mafia. Pretty weak claim with contradictory arguments about his reasoning. Deconduo - Claimed SK. Fishball - Likely Traitor. BC - Was a potential lynch target. He should still be looked into as a viable target. Misder - Hasn't been posting much. I almost completely forgot he was in the game. He seems to be trying to sit back and stay out of sight. I think he is a likely candidate for a scum. Bumatlarge - Some people seem to be suspicious of him. However Deconduo has already stated that he will be using is SK kill on him tonight. Other? - Tell me who you think should be on this list. We need to try and keep the list short so we can actually get a clear decision. We don't want to leave it ambiguous. There is still a potential that Kita is a scum. We need to make sure he is killing who we want him to and not leaving up to his choice. I will go ahead and choose Misder for my pick. All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch. Now then. Cube. You claim to be a doctor, but you won't use your ability. Stop being a pussy. Don't waste your ability because you're afraid. This is probably the reason I'm the most suspicious of you. A doctor who isn't protecting someone doesn't look good. You need to protect someone tonight. Who knows, it could be what prevents us from losing tonight or tomorrow. I propose that you protect either Kita - While he has the potential to be harmful to us, its probably best to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a scum, we probably can't win as it is. HaploPaithan - I was targeted last night and saved. I think it could be likely that I'm targeted again. Obviously I'm a bit biased here. Eiii - Is hopefully our Parity Cop. A pretty good reason to be protected. He hasn't confirmed this, but he probably shouldn't until he can at least tell us something. You should tell us who you will be protecting us tonight. This should pretty much guarantee that that player will not be killed. Scum will be reluctant to hit him, plus your protection should save him if they do decide to go after him. Then in the case that you are a weak cop and you die from it, we will know who you protected and that that person is scum. I think we should be able to tell if your death was from weak cop or someone's KP by the amount of deaths that will occur tonight. So yeah everyone please let us know who you want Kita's KP to be use on. Also please mention anything that I might have overlooked. | ||
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On January 15 2011 17:28 JimboSilvers wrote: Oh hey nice of you to come in and post! You act like I've been inactive. I feel like i've been fairly active the whole game. I had some tests and a lot of homework the last few days, so I haven't been as active as I could have been, but what can you do when you're an engineering student. I've been more active than you obviously since I haven't gotten a warning. On your list : why would we kill the SK? First off we can't kill him at night since he's bulletproof, and second we need to kill mafia, not SK. We're in a terrible position given its 16 players and 5, potentially 6 mafia, and a bunch of KP. Oops. Forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll talk about your other point in a minute. Anything else to say about Fishball other than "likely traitor"? You mention bumatlarge and say other people seem to want to lynch him. What do YOU think? I'm not feeling conviction here. Along with the other questionable picks on your list, I'm just feeling like you're trying to pick easy candidates here. I talk about each player a little bit more in the paragraph after the list. I really want something to get done tonight. I picked the list not only based on my personal opinion but one what appears to have been the towns opinions as well. + Show Spoiler + All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch. As for bumatlarge, I personally don't feel he has been all the suspicious. TBH I put him on the list because Deconduo already said he was going to kill him. Why Misder over other lurkers like zeks? At this point, i feel town needs all the blue roles possible. Zeks had the potential to be tracker or something, so he wasn't as high on my list. I feel like if misder was a blue townie he would be more active. So he is either a scum laying low, or a green townie imo. I think him being a scum is more likely. Beneather and Pigsquirrel are also other lurkers. Why do you seem to be targeting Zeks in particular? Also: Why do you think you'll be targetted again? And why do you think you're so important that we need to save your life? Your most recent post is just atrocious. kitaman, please ignore my last request and shoot this loser instead. I already said I was biased here. I don't think I'm the best person to guard, but I'd like to give him some options. There was probably a reason why I was targeted last night, I'm not sure why, but that reason possibly still holds, so there is a chance I'm a target again tonight. As for telling about the doctor protection tonight, I've explained why I think its beneficial. It can certainly be argued otherwise as well. I'd rather not get screwed over if possible though. You propose quite a few new targets in your post. This is what I was trying to avoid. I really want town to come to a clear consensus. If you keep throwing in more targets, nothing will get done. | ||
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On January 16 2011 00:10 HaploPaithan wrote: You act like I've been inactive. I feel like i've been fairly active the whole game. I had some tests and a lot of homework the last few days, so I haven't been as active as I could have been, but what can you do when you're an engineering student. I've been more active than you obviously since I haven't gotten a warning. Oops. Forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll talk about your other point in a minute. I talk about each player a little bit more in the paragraph after the list. I really want something to get done tonight. I picked the list not only based on my personal opinion but one what appears to have been the towns opinions as well. + Show Spoiler + All the other players are of potential use to us. Cube has claimed to be a Doctor. He has been suspicious, but if he is doctor, it can be still be useful to us. Deconduo has a KP that will be used to target scum since he can't let scum win before he does. Fishball is a potential traitor. However if he wants to continue living he will continue to provide analysis. Plus its unlikely he has been recruited yet, so he won't know which players are actually scum, so he can't really protect those players in his analysis. BC is in a similar situation. Has been under suspicion and will continue to provide useful analysis in order to stay alive. Now we get to Misder. He has been quiet. Too quiet. He isn't going to be posting useful analysis anytime soon. He said himself that he will not be posting much in the near future either. So of all my potential targets he will be of the least use for town and as such the best target for a lynch. As for bumatlarge, I personally don't feel he has been all the suspicious. TBH I put him on the list because Deconduo already said he was going to kill him. At this point, i feel town needs all the blue roles possible. Zeks had the potential to be tracker or something, so he wasn't as high on my list. I feel like if misder was a blue townie he would be more active. So he is either a scum laying low, or a green townie imo. I think him being a scum is more likely. Beneather and Pigsquirrel are also other lurkers. Why do you seem to be targeting Zeks in particular? I already said I was biased here. I don't think I'm the best person to guard, but I'd like to give him some options. There was probably a reason why I was targeted last night, I'm not sure why, but that reason possibly still holds, so there is a chance I'm a target again tonight. As for telling about the doctor protection tonight, I've explained why I think its beneficial. It can certainly be argued otherwise as well. I'd rather not get screwed over if possible though. You propose quite a few new targets in your post. This is what I was trying to avoid. I really want town to come to a clear consensus. If you keep throwing in more targets, nothing will get done. EBWOP: I also made of list of decent targets to protect in case the town did decide that not revealing the protect was the best choice. | ||
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##Vote Fishball I'm cool with lynching Fishball. I've thought he was traitor for this entire time. Might as well go for it since that seems to be the towns consensus. | ||
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N1 i viewed Bumatlarge, N2 I viewed JimboSilvers. I got the result same. @JumboShivers The reason I picked up Parity Cop over Eiii even though Eiii claimed he was going to pick it is because I didn't want the mafia to kill the parity cop. Outright claiming you are going to pick Parity Cop makes you a pretty good target. If Eiii were going to die, I didn't want us to lose Parity Cop. As for role blocking the SK. If we are to believe BC theory and assume that Decon is mafia instead of SK. Then that puts BC at next most likely to be the second SK. As the second SK he would be the most likely to realize that Decon is probably not an SK. So that would make BC your best target if you do in fact want to roleblock the SK and reduce KP at night. | ||
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On January 19 2011 07:08 aidnai wrote: jumboshivers? that's as bad as GeorgeClooney calling pandain "paindrain" lol. Although, everyone is calling you halpo so maybe you just want a little payback... Haplo's claim presents an interesting situation... I don't like the idea of killing off our information roles. If Haplo is telling the truth (town parity cop), it seems unlikely that either bumatlarge or jimbo are mafia, considering jimbo wants bum to be vig hit tonight (however, SK is still a possibility for either.) It's quite possible that CPR doc is not in spot 10 or 11, for instance: -Deconduo is scum, he saved the CPR role for someone further down the draft. Mafia felt ballsy, waiting till near the end of the draft to pick up CPR doc, resulting in it being more hidden. More risk, more reward. -Deconduo is SK, mafia had someone at the end of the draft go for CPR doc, just for kicks, and got lucky. That being said, I would rather flip Haplo than bumatlarge, for two reasons: 1) If Bum is indeed role cop, he could be very useful for finding SKs... 2) Haplo's reasoning for picking parity cop is very dubious, to say the least. Especially after all this: Pretty uncool of you to insist you're gonna follow the plan and then snipe the role above yours, don't you think? If it turns out I saved the only scum set to die night one, just, lol... Those were posts while the plan was still up for discussion. Once it was obvious that not many people were planning on following the plan, I also chose to not follow. | ||
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Coming out before I had 2 reveals is stupid. And I was pretty busy after that and felt like waiting on the offchance that Eiii would claim Parity as well. | ||
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This puts Jimbo and Bum as town and Pigsquirrel as Scum obviously. Right now it would seem that it is 7/4/1. BC has picked out myself, bum, pigsquirrel and deconduo as the 4 scum. If i had to guess, I'd figure that Jumbo also agrees with him. If that is the case then scum will lose without the help of the SK. If i were scum, i certainly wouldn't be relying on the SK to help me win. It would be much better to wait a day and then use PoD. Scum had no guarentee about who Kita would kill. It seemed likely that kita would potentially target Bum or Deconduo last night. This seems like a big gamble and not worth waiting another night or 2 to reveal the PoD. It would have required no roleblock on the CPR, no protections on their targets, and for Kita to not hit one of us. I think we should be looking elsewhere. I'm looking at BC pretty heavily here. He is using a scare tactic of scum outright winning if we don't do as he says. This isn't really the case. We know for sure who a scum is, pigsquirrel. Yet he doesn't want to use the town's only KP on a guaranteed scum hit. He also considers Deconduo to be a scum, yet again isn't pushing for his death. Instead he wants to kill off Bum with the town KP and is hoping that the SK will kill off myself. The 2 players on his list least likely to be scum. If town and SK KP are used tonight to kill off Townies, then the game will go 3/4/1. Pretty much cementing a mafia win. We need to watch out for this. Other players that are potentially scum could include Misder, Beaneather, Aidnai, or Kenpachi. Though my personal opinion is that Aidnai is a town who is being swayed by BC. I will agree that Deconduo is probably scum. So if anything we should be playing it safe and killing off pigsquirrel or deconduo. Perhaps SK will help us, perhaps not. I'd personally say to kill Pigsquirrel tonight in hopes that Deconduo is actually the SK. Deconduo tomorrow. Sorry if this post is a mess. Took awhile to write and I don't like the way it turned out. But hopefully you guys understand what I'm trying to say. | ||
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