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Got the PM that this started, but it's 10am and I haven't gotten any sleep, so I'll see you in 20 hours or so. xoxo hugs and kisses. | ||
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So we should best let it go, unless we get more than 15 people to agree with it. I do, however, have an idea about the number picks. Why not all pick [1][x] where x is everyone's pick 1-20. Since it's just 22 players there should be little clashing (let's face it, people won't hoard 1-2-3-4-5 (hopefully), so it would be nice and evenly spread. Ofc the mafia can then pick 2x 3x 4x 5x 6x but if town spread themselves fairly even. OR we could ask everyone to pick a previously selected number, so we make sure there's no clashing. Even if mafia blends in, there must be a way to make sure the spread is even yet random. I may be wrong, I never played this format before so if there's a basic flaw then forgive me. I just wanted to contribute somewhat. | ||
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My strategy was: ummm... I like 11. And 3 is nice. I'll decide what to pick when I get back home (we still have time, right?) The only problem with LSB's plan is that mafia would know all our roles (more or less), and it'll be quite tricky to avoid losing good roles early. But alas, seems that LSB is town-aligned no matter what role he has in the game, so I guess it would be ok to go with his plan.  | ||
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What's so difficult to get? | ||
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So either: - Amber is wrong (or lying) - Ace made a mistake. As for deconduo, not picking CPR is a horrible choice. First of all, you're safe. There's no other safer role than CPR. Mafia won't target you because you can always help them with KP if you defend people they won't attack. Second of all, you may become a target later in the game, but let's be serious, allowing CPR to get picked my Mafia is far far far more dangerous. Third of all, you may be screwing up everyone else's pick, and take good roles off blues. So think twice before you pick. | ||
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Only mafia would have a reason to lie, or not tell us their votes, since they most likely had a "plan" of getting good picks. | ||
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The thing is, I had no reason to lie. I could've very well waited out and claimed 9 or 10, since you were the one that said 11-2 first. It would've been damn-right-stupid for me to claim 11-3 when there were listed posted with 11-2 right after me. So either: Ace made a small mistake, or you're full of it. I checked once again, here was my exact message: "Here are my two numbers: [11][3]" There's no way that could've been miss-understood. My guess is that you wanted to claim something, and you rushed it, got caught with a lie, and now are trying to back out of it. The downside is that if I was lying, it would be incredibly stupid, since I could've picked 10 or whatever. And I have no reason to try and get you lynched because I'm ahead of you in picks. If I were mafia, I could just pick whatever I think you would, and you'd be Vanilla. So explain exactly why I would be lying. | ||
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I should've lied though, I liked #4 better than #10. =( | ||
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Barundar LayOffRage bumatlarge Jackal58 Fishball May want to change their roles (if they already sent them in). | ||
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So then, people, make sure you got the correct role. | ||
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On January 10 2011 22:29 deconduo wrote: I did not get the role I asked for. Mafia must have some way of manipulating the picks. Are you joking? There's nothing in the rules about that, it clearly states: "Starting with the first player in the draft you can pick roles." So you're either being funny, or trying to cover your role. Add that to the fact that you said you don't really wanna pick CPR and you look scummy as hell. Ace, is there any way that the first player in the draft order could NOT get any role that he wanted? | ||
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I mean, deconduo made a mistake based on PM from Ace. If Ace had made a mistake, then he would've said so, since it's really not part of the game. And I still don't like deconduo's decision to not pick the CPR. So yeah, add that to this apparent lie, and we have ourself a day 1 lynch. And if it turns out dec wasn't lying, then we can just blame it on Ace. It's practically win-win! | ||
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1. First I thought aidnai is scummy. Mostly because he's been extremely passive with his posts. Not taking any sides, not pushing anything, just trying to favor other people's ideas so as to not actually draw attention when the shit hits the fan. 2. Then I saw the analysis on LoL, and I figured, ok, that looks like a decent plan for town, high chance of it going well, might clarify some things, seems like a good day 1 vote. 3. Then aidnai starts defending him out of the blue. This changes everything. My gut feeling says that LoL is in fact townie, and aidnai knows this, and since he already has a mini-bandwagon going for him, aidnai thinks it's a good idea to defend him, so when he gets lynched and turns green, he will be absolved of guilt. I'm just thinking all this because it's more or less exactly what I'd do if I was scum and targeted so brutally on day 1. I know it's not good enough evidence, but I need to go with it for now. If town will need one extra vote to lynch LoL, I might change it, but for now... ##Vote aidnai | ||
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What if Kenpachi says "oh I tried shooting Amber but I was blocked" when in fact he is not JOAT. How can that be verified? Also, if they are both scum (but Kenpachi NOT lying about his role), this would clear them both up after Kenpachi being role checked. We need to devote some extra time to this if something doesn't happen after night 1. But I like the general idea. As for the lynch, I still see no good reason to change to LoR. Aidnai seems just as good a target so far, and if we lynch a townie at least we're not killing a very promising one. | ||
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##unvote aidnai ##vote LayOffRage Note that we should not allow focus to come off aidnai though. | ||
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Only because he did not go with the plan, which is very scummish for places 1-5 imo. | ||
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If we go after more people to lynch, it will just be chaos. We have at least one way to kill a person at night, so it should be fairly easy to settle on a lynch target and a kill target. | ||
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not following lsb is not scummy, but one should inform town that they are not, so as to not cause town the loss of an important role. The basic idea is that you should never play strictly for your own amusement. Not picking joat screwed up some things and you really should avoid being anti-town from day fking one. Keeping my vote on rol. Suggest deconduo zaps kenpachi. Peace, out. | ||
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Well I already switched from aidnai to RoL.  | ||
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*snuggles* | ||
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Traitor. @ RoL: Let's face it, we had to make sure you were right before we went off lynching people. | ||
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We have to be very strong about who deconduo is hitting. No more "I'll pick between". If mafia wants to save someone, then they will need to either roleblock you or waste a KP. Either of those is better than not having any control over the kill. Plus, everyone who did something at night and didn't have any effect/etc. should say something. | ||
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I'm a medic, but I have weird head issues. I may do either of the following: Paranoid Doctor - Protect the target but also roleblocks them Naive Doctor - This protection always fails on the target Weak Doctor - This doctor dies if protecting a player not from their alignment Bad Doctor - Protect the target but have a 25% chance to kill them as well So yeah. Not the most helpful role in the game, and afaik no real way to check which one without risking someone's life (I mostly care about mine). | ||
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I was hoping to give the Mafia a reason NOT to hit me. (risk of killing someone -> good for the mafia) If you find a way to figure out why I would claim that as mafia, then fine, lynch me. But it's just that medics don't seem to be on-target this game. I was 90% sure someone would defend BULLET BILL, but no. So yeah, if you don't lynch me then mafia will surely kill me sooner or later, now that I claimed and they have basically no reason not to hit me. In fact, fuck it, I'll help you! ##vote Cubedin | ||
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On January 14 2011 02:34 LSB wrote: So, BC, you're on the balance team. How likely is it that there are 3 SKs in a game? Of the 4 KP. I count 1 Mafia. 1 Deconduo SK 2 Unknown JOAT/CPR/Hider Also, wasn't the Witch supposed to help tonight? | ||
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On January 14 2011 02:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Your on a list of potential traitor candidates, and you fake claim? Fuck your stupid. It's spelled "You're". You know, when insulting someone, it's nice if you'd make proper use of your official language. It would make you look less dumb. Also, it's not a fake claim at all. I really am Doctor. I just figured Mafia would have less reason to hit me if i seemed more dangerous. So we do have doctors, they just don't work as they should. | ||
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But which could've rescued hider? | ||
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On January 14 2011 02:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote: It would actually make me appear less educated. Pointing out a horrible flaw in logic, or catching it quickly would still display that I'm not dumb. Hell your claim also made the assumption that no one would read the rules, realize you were lying and get you offed. You also are on a list of possible traitor candidates, fake claimed and set off the red flags saying "traitor here" Good job! Yes but fail to understand simple explanations doesn't make you seem to bright either. I didn't fake claim. Fake claiming would be playing like deconduo and leading the town to believe that my role is something different than it is. I claimed DOCTOR. My role is DOCTOR. Can you see the "simple logic" in here? All I did was make-up a trait to make me seem more dangerous TO TOWN. Explain how this would make me a more efficient Mafia? I didn't assume that nobody would read the rules, I hoped that Mafia won't re-read the rules (since, let's face it, we can be quite sure that Mafia didn't pick doctors, unless they were going on the off-shot of getting Weak Doctors and improving their KPs). You can call me a liar, sure, and call Lynch all Liars on me, I'm fine with that, but don't give me the fake claim bee-ess. @LSB: I was more dangerous if the mafia thought I could kill townies. I can't, at best I'm killing myself if I defend a red. But that's a small chance overall. | ||
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On January 14 2011 02:48 LSB wrote: Cube 4 people were shot last night GGQ HaploPaithan Barunder Jackel58 Aidani protected HaploPaitan. And Divinek hid behind Barunder or something. One of the shots was mafia. One was deconduo. We're missing two shots Ok, got it. But we still have JOAT, correct? (If Kenpachi turns out mafia then surely Mafia would've gotten this role). And for the extra hit, how can we make sure that aidnai really did rescue someone? | ||
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On January 14 2011 02:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: lawl? You lied about a possible type of doctor you could be. You did this WHILE on the suspected traitor list. Do you not get just how bad that is? If the mafia was smart they would auto shoot you on this as it sets off huge signals. You also stated you did this hoping people would re-read the rules also bad move as if I didn't call you out for this, someone else would have, putting you back in the same boat. As for move if your red, it wastes time looking at other people, it gives you a huge wifom defense that people might believe, it sends town into confusion around what roles the reds might have etc... Also, a medic for mafia is a good role. They have to dodge sk hits, and if town has night kp, town KP. It's good if I'm read that it wastes time? More than if I would have just stayed low and not said anything? I could have claimed Weak Doctor or Pranoid Doctor and have a LOT more credibility. And I don't care that I'm on the traitor list, you keep pushing that, but I really don't care about it. LSB made it pretty clear why going after the traitor is bad for the town. You know what I WOULD care about? How about the guy who kept the fact that he is CC under the blanket, and let Mafia have CPR. Or the other guy who didn't go with the plan and lost us role #2 of most importance: JOAT. BUT HEY FUCK THAT, THIS GUY LIED AND CAUSED ABSOLUTELY NO DAMAGE TO ANYTHING. LYNCH HIM! | ||
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On January 14 2011 02:59 LSB wrote: Although we cannot know for certain that Haplo was actually targeted, I would say that Aidani was pretty open about it, and that's enough for me. Well, just because he's witch doesn't mean he's not red. He could still know who dies but not actually choose to protect anyone, that's all I'm saying. Me? I would go after Deconduo and Kenpachi. No doubt about it. They wronged the town in the worst ways possible: letting mafia have two of the top roles in the game, increasing Mafia KP drastically, etc. Deconduo would be first on the list. @BC: Lol dude, I never said don't lynch me. Please do. But maybe you should focus on one of the more obvious people ahead of me in the list. Especially since someone else may pop traitor and ruin your whole detective work. I agree that lying was not the best idea, but I explained why I did it. If you don't believe me, that's very well, but maybe make a note, stop causing chaos, and focus on the more OBVIOUS issues in here. | ||
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If not him then Kita. But he did claim GF so in order to clear him we would need both Role and Alignment check on him. It's pretty obvious that we have at least 1 mafia and 1 traitor in top 8. Do you have any better ideas? The simple fact that Mafia didn't care and chose to take out Jackal is scary though. They just might have 3 KP or so. | ||
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But you can't deny that deconduo and kenpachi have been far far more detrimental to the town than anyone else so far. And now deconduo has a role that will probably keep him alive 'till the end of the game if we don't twist the knife. Here's a deal. If deconduo is not gonna get lynched tonight, have him shoot me. If I flip blue/doctor, then lynch him. I'm willing to go 1 for 1. | ||
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On January 14 2011 03:23 LSB wrote: Why would the Traitor claim GF? A role that someone who would follow the plan (you're truely), would have picked and possibly hold? So you are saying that deconduo isn't the SK and the mafia killed Jackal? Because it's hard to prove incorrect if you're red (get recruited) since it would require two checks, and because it's easy to fake lol. "My ability is showing up as mafia!" And I don't know who killed Jackal, but if a town did they should have claimed by now. Unless town has CPR which is highly unlikely IMO. Basically it's like this: 1. Number of KPs says that CPR is the game. Not 100% sure but highly likely. 2. What townie would pick CPR knowing that it would be one of the first picks? 3. If Mafia has CPR then they would've known #1 did not pick CPR, which means that #1 is Mafia. Basically, the only other scenario that makes sense is that a townie picked CPR as a fluke and is now picking off random targets in a vigilante-like manner, which is slightly less dangerous than mafia having it, but dangerous none-the-less. | ||
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I'm not changing my vote. Still asking for the 1-on-1 with deconduo. If you are sure about me, have HIM shoot me. That way you can save the lynch for another Mafia. I didn't say you should lynch Kenpachi. I said you should lynch deconduo. Kenpachi would be my next choice on the list. Speaking of which, doesn't it strike you as odd that people who have done horrible moves for the town are allowed to shove it under the rug, but I, who only claimed doctor with an extra trait deserves to die? That's pretty scummy LSB. I mean I get BC, he's mad because I lied, but you're making up stuff as we go along. Fine, lynch me. FoS on everyone trying to take the lynch off deconduo. If he really is town, and you are all right, then have him shoot me. Fair, no? | ||
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You have your chance at using your shot. If you're red, you know I'm town. So go on with it. We still have no 100% proof about anyone's role, part from aidnai's I guess. (From the top few players who are still alive I mean). | ||
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Why? Take the best case scenario: You kill another mafia first. So? How is it better than killing them the other way around? My most basic concern is this: Are you 100% sure that deconduo was CC? Is there a possibility that he actually was CPR and decided to come up with a way that the town doesn't influence his picks? Basically, you're all making a choice between: 1. Kill a mafia, 100%, find out if he was lying or not, his role, etc. 2. Kill someone who claims is a doctor based on assumptions. And LSB made you think that #2 is the better option, and that keeping Mafias alive is somehow good news for the town. If you wanna keep him alive, have him kill me. That will at least prove he was day vigilante and you're not keeping mafia KP +1 each night. Don't be thick, town. | ||
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I know that he claimed SK, but we cannot be sure about that. It makes much more sense that the CPR is still in the game. It's like this, so far I have the following facts: 1. aidnai is witch (because he posted kill list, bla bla) - no idea what alighnement 2. deconduo either missed CPR or said he missed CPR, but CPR has still been chosen => Mafia knew what he picked => He is red. 3. My role, which I know of, but can't really prove unless I'm weak doctor I guess. 4. The mafia didn't think it was a problem killing at least one of the people who could be traitor. Turns out two died already, so there most likely isn't more than 1 red in the top 8 (traitor doesn't count) So, based on this, I would definitely lynch deconduo. It's what I'd do, and I'd gladly 'sacrifice' myself if deconduo dies. I fail to see how his death will hurt the town, but I know that mine won't bring any new information to the game. And all you'll do is go "oh well, he played badly". And sweep it under the rug. Killing one of the more obvious suspects is bound to get more information. Just my two cents. I won't try to defend myself further. If you guys think lynching me is the best option for town, based on that role "tweak" thing I did (lying, yes, I did it), then go ahead, you deserve to lose this game. | ||
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I admitted I lie about the role. There's nothing for Ace to clarify. However, I fail to see how: - that lie was detrimental to the town - it doesn't make sense that I would try to be less of a target for the Mafia | ||
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On January 14 2011 05:09 LSB wrote: How do you know that CPR was still chosen? Also, we aren't letting the KP float around. Suppose Deconduo is red, because we are telling him where to shoot, we essentially control mafia KP. Right, if he's Day Vig. But what if he is, indeed CPR, or night vig or w/e? Then you're not controlling anything. And until you ask him to shoot someone, he can off people at night easily. I asked: are we 100% sure about his role? What are you talking about? Jackel58 was killed by deconduo. Barundar was a Bullet Bill snipe. What? Ok you lost me here. How did deconduo kill anyone if he was the Copy Cat to begin with? Did you completely miss THIS POST? Or am I missing a lot of things here? | ||
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Bullet Bill is supposed to detect if players carry a gun or not. Not "Snipe" people. | ||
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On January 14 2011 05:19 Eiii wrote: ...he's sk. He can kill one person a night. Regardless of the role? I'm sorry then, I was under the false impression that he had to have a role before he had to start killing people. But even so, that doesn't really clarify anything. We don't know for sure if he's SK or Red. We don't know for sure what role he has, etc. And you THINK you're controlling KPs but he can always claim X was protected, or that he was Role-Blocked, etc. The only thing you can really control is the day vig. And if he is CPR, and red (worst case scenario), then you are actively allowing +2kp for Mafia. Awesome. | ||
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At least town won't waste a lynch based on your accusations. | ||
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Then I realized it's crappy. I wanted to 'protect' aidnai but I figured if he's telling the truth then: a) i could roleblock him and that would blow b) i could die So I then went on looking for others. My next thought was LSB and post something like "if i belly-up tonight, then LSB is prolly red". But I didn't wanna die so fast. So in the end I decided to cower my way out and protect nobody. But now I'm fine either way. I suggest that I: a) Protect LSB/BC/etc, see if I die b) Protect deconduo in hope of roleblock (in case he's anti-town, we'll see what pops up) c) Protect someone of my choice, let you know 30 mins before daytime, see what happens. Problem is, daytime is about 5am my time, so that last one is crappy for my real life.  | ||
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I don't know what kind of doctor I am. I was pretty sure aidnai is scum, but there were not enough votes. Me protecting him and then dying would somewhat prove that he's scum. Same goes for SK. I already said I'm willing to go 1-for-1 if I'm sure that someone if mafia. And I would only die if I found such player, so it's no biggie if I die and manage to reveal a mafia in the process, especially now, that you guys think I'm suspicious. Plus, it would help the town even more by narrowing down the hunt for the traitor. The only reason I stopped was because witch had a very useful ability and could be role-confirmed easily. And I had no sure other targets ('till deconduo posted in the morning). And I didn't "choose not to save". If I was covering someone, it would've been aidnai, lsb, or someone else i thought was scummy. None of the hits were on them so it wouldn't have made a difference. But basically, by "choosing to save" I am choosing to also potentially sacrifice myself or roleblock somone. So don't act like it's a decision one would make in a heartbeat. | ||
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It's 2 am and I'm drunk. Here's my take on this: 1. We should lynch someone (but now it's too late I think) 2. We should use Day vig (since if we don't, and deconduo is NOT mafia, he'll prolly get killed tonight just to deny town of one kp, and his extra kp at night). 3. I will use my ability on LSB. This will have 3 outcomes: a) I die -> You guys kill LSB (presuming that you can tell that I died because of that, not mafia hit) -> Remember night vig will have +1 kp tonight. b) I don't die, but I roleblock LSB -> even if he is mafia, we get a good deal c) My protection is worthless -> Or you guys can just shoot him right now. But I'm thinking it's better to shoot/lynch someone in the top x so we can get closer to finding one traitor. And I am suggesting that Serial Killers hit lurkers tonight. There's bound to be a Mafia around there. #unvote Cubedin #vote Abstain ...I'll still be up for about 1-2 more hrs if I need to change vote. xoxo | ||
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If you hit a townie, it's not a useful townie. If you hit a mafia, maybe we can stop lynch in time and give you a shot to use night powers. In fact, shoot someone right now. Anyone you think is scum. Be a hero, help the game! I like vodka. | ||
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On January 15 2011 09:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Thats a terrible idea -_-. At the moment it is 9-10 town vs 7-8 anti town (5 mafia, 1 - 2 sk, 1 traitor). Any random townie death pretty well seals the town loss. Well he already shot LSB. ...so it doesn't really matter, he was doing it before I posted. Let's see if he actually IS day vig. | ||
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LSB lost all of my trust when he went against me after BC's accusation. It seemed so out of the blue. Good. Now should we kill Deconduo or use him for extra KPs for town? | ||
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Because if he wins with Mafia then he knew LSB wasn't Mafia. Maybe there was a town SK and a Mafia SK. I'm just saying. We're giving him a chance to kill someone at night, and we're not sure of his alignment. Do you guys seriously think you'll get a bandwagon going on Fishball in 1h? | ||
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So basically we have this: 1. Fishball may very well be red/traitor, but we're not 100% sure. Say 40%? 2. Dec is 100% not town. 3. Dec has a roughly 1 in 3 chance of hitting a red tonight. Do we take that chance? Or do we kill him and get it over with? Basically, we can't afford to waste this lynch. Vote count is now: 6 for dec 4 for fishball Unless I'm wrong, we can't really go for fishball, unless 2-3 ppl choose to change votes. So, what do we do? | ||
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We have what, 2 hours left? Do we get... 6-7 people to vote for BC? No. Then focus on the problem at hand. Lynch dec or not? | ||
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Cube, if you want to clear yourself as traitor then I want your vote on fishball. It just sounds like blackmail to me, and frankly, I'd go for Amber instead. Fishball has been odd, but at least he spoke out. I bet at least 2 of the reds are lurking. But you do realize that voting for him would not really clear me since any vote for top 7 would be good for me if I were traitor. Come on. | ||
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My guess is that we won't though, and we'll miss a lynch. ##vote Fishball | ||
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Sorry, but if you are right and there were 3 SKs, then the game is horribly imbalanced. There's no way town can win with that much KP at night unless they score 2 good roles (night vig/CPR) and manage to hit good targets. Otherwise, the 14 townies would be outnumbered in 2-3 nights tops. I'm just gonna hope that there are not 3SKs and trust kita. It's either trust him or trust you, and more people are against you now. Though, my money is on Amber. | ||
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This is a very tight lynch. You do not get to just "throw away" your vote. If you don't wanna vote for dec OR fish, please say why. | ||
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We confirmed his role, not his alignment. You, I never really suspected, not as much as the others anyway. @ Fishball: It's nothing personal. I want someone lynched. I will vote for whoever needs one more vote to die. And the fact is, I get to choose between: deconduo Kenpachi kitaman27 Fishball Amber[Light] Seems that people think it's a good idea to use deconduo's kill at night. That leaves kenpachi, kita, you and amber. I don't know about kenpachi but he seems harmless. Perhaps after tonight a role/align cop will clear us out. Kita seems least scummy of all. And I would 100% vote for amber instead, if there was a chance he'd get lynched. | ||
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On January 15 2011 10:54 Eiii wrote: Ugh, we're ten minutes out and still don't have anyone to lynch. Decon is not town for sure-- can we lynch him and keep another townie from potentially dying tonight? If we're having such a hard time finding the traitor/mafia out of such a small pool of players I don't think decon is going to have any better luck. In the state that we're in, we need luck on our side. Luck would mean lynching a red, and have deconduo kill a red. Chances of that happening = low. Chances of town coming up ok after tonight if we kill deconduo = lower. | ||
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Also, 2 mafia in top 8 picking medics would be silly for mafias imo. | ||
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vote Deconduo Sorry man, I want someone dead. | ||
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##unvote Fishball ##vote Deconduo Forgot the ## @Eii: make up your mind lulz. | ||
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Thank you amber. Deconduo: Please kill amber. I kept mafia from hitting you in HP. LOVE ME! | ||
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On January 15 2011 11:02 deconduo wrote: That brings me up to 7 which is still not enough, so you guys better suck up to me and give me good reason to play along tonight. The way I see it, you probably don't plan on keeping me alive for the next lynch. Well, if you hit a red people will most likely love you big time. So it's really not up to us. Either way, it's in the spirit of the game to try and kill a mafia, so it will be more balanced. If you kill town it's almost certain win for mafia, why would you want that? | ||
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Cross my heart. | ||
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Also, consider this my post for the night. I'll let you know who I 'protect' before day post. Hopefully. | ||
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Should I protect someone who I think is scum (and die if I'm weak) or someone who I think is important to town (and risk role-blocking). Or someone who I'm 50-50 about? | ||
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Plus, if certain things go certain ways, you will end the game by killing a townie tonight. Don't think you can cause lylo unless you get lucky. | ||
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So unless mafia had both CPR to account for KP3 and JOAT to account for 1, then they couldn't have recruited traitor, right? I am dismissing possibility of 3 x SK as that would be highly imbalanced for town | ||
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I'll consider it, will announce who I chose before sunrise. | ||
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Why is he always slipping under the radar? | ||
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This page is full of win. Misder, I may be stupid, because I didn't read the OP as well as I should have, but at least I'm not a fking retard. Jimbo, I like you, really. You posted some nice stuff earlier, but now you go afk and come back like 1 minute before the night post, prolly because Ace PMed you. Please be more active in the game. I don't think we should argue much though, just wait and see if we live through the night. | ||
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Please gimme two players I should protect tonight. Keep in mind I don't know what kind of doctor I am. I want two options from everyone replying to this. My thoughts: kita/amber | ||
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On January 16 2011 10:28 kitaman27 wrote: I'm willing to accept the 1/8 risk of being role blocked if you want to RNG between your two targets. Post your decision after deadline? I will. Both RNG and post what I pick at 11:00 KST (in 25m). But I wanted 2 or three good options. And I want to know what ppl think. | ||
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Well. Ummm. Yeah. So: 1. Someone protected Fishball OR someone RBed Deconduo OR deconduo lied. My guess: Amber RBed deconduo 2. Mafia may have recruited traitor. 3. I may have RBed kitaman, or someone protected BC. (or he was bulletproof?) Question: Scum mason = he was red right? | ||
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You saved your target from a hit last night. | ||
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We have 1 serial killer, 1 vigilante, 1 mafia KP, unknown KPs from CPR/Joat. We have 2 hits accounted for, none of which should be from vigilante/sk. So, unless some other townie comes out and says he hit zeks, we can safely assume that mafia's 2KPs have been used, thus, no traitor? Decon: can you confirm that you did not target zeks? Wouldn't really blame you if you did. | ||
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You are right then, scum may or may not have a 2nd KP. So traitor may or may not have been recruited. Town, speak up! | ||
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On January 17 2011 02:36 Misder wrote: I never said you were retarded I don't use that kind of language anyways.No, you said I'm stupid, very stupid. Mostly because I didn't read the OP well enough. And after saying that, you went on about LSB, who had already died, and did an "analysis" on him. Which means that you've been paying less attention to the game than I was. And that's just plain ignorant. But you know, bygones. | ||
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1. Deconduo: did not really confirm he is SK. As per my original thoughts, he may be red (at first I thought he could even be red/cpr, but then he confirmed cc). However. If he is just red (and not SK), there's no actual reason to lynch him just yet. Just leave him on for another night, try to kill someone else, see what happens. If he is SK, he could help the town, if he is Mafia, then we're not lowering total KP anyway. It boils down to this: we can lynch him for knowing he is 100% not town, but it won't benefit the town much, since he clearly has no "awesome" role to help the Mafia with. IF we don't come up with ANYONE better, then he is a viable target, or we could just skip the lynch like last night (Amber, still didn't get a good explanation as to why you threw away vote but nvm). 2. Unless I'm reading the OP wrong (for the 5th hundred time in this game): Paranoid Doctor - Protects the target and also roleblocks them Naive Doctor - This protection always fails on the target Weak Doctor - This doctor dies if protecting a player not from their alignment From the above, there is one way that I could have protected you, Kita, and NOT role block you. The only other possibility is that I am weak doctor, and that both me and a roleblocker targeted you, and that you are town. You kept saying only 25% chance that I did it, but to me, it's like >75% sure that I did it, unless mafia decided to use two actions on you (since Amber is saying he didn't, and it would assume that mafia has JOAT) 3. I somewhat trust BC. His posts have been pro-town from the start of this game, so I think it would be very stupid to lynch him. Of course, some of the things were very Captain Hindsight-ish, but still, we can just lynch him if he stops being pro-town. So far, I see no reason to do it, honestly. Will come back with more tomorrow. Would suggest lynching Amber or Fishball, though I do agree things don't look very great for Fishball. (and yes, I am choosing them because the chances of hitting the traitor are far greater now than before IMO). | ||
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On January 17 2011 12:59 bumatlarge wrote: CubEdIn Claimed Doctor Proof - Says it roleblocks at the same time. Now I can't make SHIT out of what cube says. He protected kita night 2and it said he was saved and roleblocked which means both are legit, or both are scum. Night 1, I think I've read the 20 pages after night 1 a bunch and I'm missing it. Can you clear this up cube? Might just be me missing it. Not Traitor I have to go but: I did not protect anyone in night 1. I wanted to, but it would've been aidnai and he claimed, which made rb-ing him a really bad idea. My other target would've been LSB but I had a hunch he was red and I was afraid I'd die if I was weak doctor. Either way, none of them got targeted that night so it didn't matter in the end. I have posted this before a couple of times. And no, I'm not lying. You should not focus on whether me and kita are both lying, but only on one thing: Could kita have been hit by non-mafia players? If yes, he might be red. If no, he is 99% town. If mafia had 2 or more players so high up the draft list, things would've been even worse for town, believe you me. | ||
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And there aren't people who would group on others (like Amber, that I suspect big time). Ace confirmed to me that kita took a hit, and it was obviously not from a townie (so either SK or scum). Honestly, If I had 4KPs now, I would wipe out all the inactives. Don't even care what side they're on. It's against the game spirit no matter what side you're on. It's a GAME, you're supposed to PLAY it, not idle for 1 month and then go LOLOLOL I didn't do anything and the town NEVER SUSPECTED ME. /awesome. But since town doesn't want to take down inactives, then we should go for the traitor, and you're the best target for that at the moment. But please know that I still love you. <3 xoxo. | ||
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On January 18 2011 05:02 Fishball wrote: I only like Romanian girls, and their sarcastic humor. I would have seen what you did there, had I not been Romanian. | ||
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I'd rather lose than have that happen twice in a row. ##vote Fishball <3 | ||
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On January 18 2011 08:38 aidnai wrote: Deconduo appears just to hammer? Something feels quite definitely wrong here... Yes, but here are the options: 1. Deconduo is Mafia - Even if we kill him, mafia don't lose a KP. And since he's claimed SK he will have to be lynched SOMETIME anyway. 2. Deconduo is SK - We kill him, we may lose a KP during the night. He has no interest in hitting the town as the Mafia would win asap if he does. So it's a question of: a) do we lynch deconduo and lose (risk losing) a KP at night? b) do we let deconduo live and risk lynching another townie. Seems like most people think option b is better, because even if we lynch green, we may have dec hit red. Of course, if he fails hitting anyone again... we may start to question. | ||
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...but then again, as an experienced mafia player, I would expect you to post as such if you are red. So you see... even though there's much much love, we can't risk losing another lynch. Heck, if you can convince everyone to vote for me, I'll switch my vote to myself, lol. | ||
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I will protect whoever, but you guys do realize that mafia will target me right? | ||
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i protected kita again. peace. | ||
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my thoughts were: give decon another chance to prove sk. If he hits a red, then it was worth keeping you alive. If not then we let you loose tomorrow. | ||
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We're not even sure that we've have had a lynch. Why would 2 nights in a row damage us more. It's a coinflip imo. | ||
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I agree following your plan the next day, if it works, and if decon doesn't prove himself. And don't call me dumb, since I was raging at decon for being red FIRST. You guys were the smart-asses who said it was UNLIKELY (you and LSB). So fuck that. We chose to trust him, then carry it to the end. If he doesn't prove anything tonight, you can fucking lynch him. The end. | ||
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I said the same time 2-3 times in this thread. But do we know who the CPR is? Not really. I was raging because we missed the lynch where deconduo had all but one vote. If he'd have died then, things would look different now. We wouldn't have hope for a KP from him and probably let Kita do his thing. That being said, if kita is not RBed you're dead. So explain how that would be better. | ||
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We don't know for sure that kita would hit a red anyway. And now YOU know he would've hit you, so you can draw your own conclusions as to whether he wasted it or not. But let's just wait for the post. | ||
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He probably realized that he couldn't "play along" with town if he picked CPR, and it was an important role so the mafia directed it towards someone else. That being said, if I haven't had protected kita twice, game would have ended sooner for town, so I can assume that my play was pretty much the best it could be. ^__^ (and by play I mean targets during the night) | ||
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On January 23 2011 07:35 Fishball wrote: If your intention of protecting kitaman27 was to stop him from hitting BC, then yes it would be a good play. However, that really isn't the case, lol. I never said it was planned, I said it was the best it could be. Sheer dumb luck always helps! But honestly, even though the first time I just wanted to use my power (since i didn't know what kinda doctor I was anyway), the second time it did occur to me that kita might just go for BC again, which helped me pick him as the target, as I thought that was a really bad idea overall. But I'm not claiming any credit here, I'm just saying that it turned out better than expected... up 'till the end. Well played jerk SK. | ||
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