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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 11 2011 22:42 GMT
#603
On January 12 2011 07:41 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 07:40 LSB wrote:
Why would anyone else pick JOAT when you were suppose to take it?

exactly. Dont people who didnt get their role get a leftover role?

Nope, they flip vanilla
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 11 2011 23:51 GMT
#615
On January 12 2011 08:46 HaploPaithan wrote:
I just don't think we should punish a player for not following the LSB's plan when we had no agreement to follow the plan. Kenpachi apparently felt that there was a more important role to take before JOAT. It would seem that he took Copycat. Copycat is a pretty good role for both scum and townies to have. I don't really fault him for taking it.

If we're lucky, a lower pick that was not following the plan tried to pick up JOAT.

What Kenpachi did was drastically anti-town. It was calculated

First Kenpachi denied the JOAT role because everyone else thought he took JOAT. We just lost a huge role

Secondly it denied the Copy cat role, something the town could have used. If Jackel58 still had the copy-cat role, we could lynch aidnai without worrying about his role. However when some random person decides to hide a red role, we can't trust him.

Thirdly, no townie would take the Copy Cat role, because we already put the copycat role in Jackel58's hands.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 11 2011 23:52 GMT
#616
Deconduo should probably shock Kenpachi instead.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 11 2011 23:58 GMT
#620
I have a very good reason for not saying anything about my role.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 00:01 GMT
#623
On January 12 2011 08:57 Kenpachi wrote:
not scummy.. dunno but it seemed like he was testing out the plan to see what happens.
Also, if im CC, why the fuck you lynch me? Are you 100% certain RoL is Traitor or something? i didnt see that yet.

We lynch you because you denied the JOAT and took the copy cat, a role that we were watching.

As for RoL, we are lynching him because we don't have a better target (We want aidnai's information instead), and we need to make sure that there is a Traitor in the game. Personally I'd rather see Jimbo's head fall, but more realistically RoL is going to die sometime.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#627
On January 12 2011 09:01 HaploPaithan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 08:51 LSB wrote:
On January 12 2011 08:46 HaploPaithan wrote:
I just don't think we should punish a player for not following the LSB's plan when we had no agreement to follow the plan. Kenpachi apparently felt that there was a more important role to take before JOAT. It would seem that he took Copycat. Copycat is a pretty good role for both scum and townies to have. I don't really fault him for taking it.

If we're lucky, a lower pick that was not following the plan tried to pick up JOAT.

What Kenpachi did was drastically anti-town. It was calculated

First Kenpachi denied the JOAT role because everyone else thought he took JOAT. We just lost a huge role

Secondly it denied the Copy cat role, something the town could have used. If Jackel58 still had the copy-cat role, we could lynch aidnai without worrying about his role. However when some random person decides to hide a red role, we can't trust him.

Thirdly, no townie would take the Copy Cat role, because we already put the copycat role in Jackel58's hands.

You are acting like people agreed with your plan. Like I already said, a lot of people did not. You can't treat it as if people were doing it. He had no guarantee that Jackel58 was going to take Copycat. While I don't agree with taking Copycat over JOAT, it doesn't make him scum. It seems likely that he did take copycat, however he hasn't actually said that he did. We could also be losing a powerful role, if we were to kill Kenpachi so early. He has to have something else good if he wasn't CPR or Copycat.
I think we should be watching Kenpachi, but not lynching him day 1. He could still be of great use to us.

Simple question. You are draft pick 11. Did you consider taking JOAT? Of course not, because you expected Kenpachi to take it.
Likewise, we expected deconduo to take CPR doc, so no one took it. And Jackel58 was expected to take Copycat.

If he has something good, well, he can claim and get protection. But would you lynch him if all he has is Copycat?
unvote
Vote: Kenpachi
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 00:06 GMT
#632
On January 12 2011 09:05 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 09:03 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 12 2011 09:00 Kenpachi wrote:
another thing id like to mention is that if im not CC, my role would go over to the real CC. For all you know, the CC might not even be in the top 8 (or is it 4)


Are you threatening the town with the hidden CC by not admitting you have it?

No Im giving you heads up that you cant eliminate possibilities when anything can happen

In other words Kenpachi took the CC role, and can't claim a different role without being outed.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 00:09 GMT
#638
Nice use of your 4k btw
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 00:09 GMT
#640
On January 12 2011 09:08 Kenpachi wrote:
Yea. im not CC or JOAT

Are you bulletproof?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 00:18 GMT
#643
On January 12 2011 09:10 HaploPaithan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 09:04 LSB wrote:
On January 12 2011 09:01 HaploPaithan wrote:
On January 12 2011 08:51 LSB wrote:
On January 12 2011 08:46 HaploPaithan wrote:
I just don't think we should punish a player for not following the LSB's plan when we had no agreement to follow the plan. Kenpachi apparently felt that there was a more important role to take before JOAT. It would seem that he took Copycat. Copycat is a pretty good role for both scum and townies to have. I don't really fault him for taking it.

If we're lucky, a lower pick that was not following the plan tried to pick up JOAT.

What Kenpachi did was drastically anti-town. It was calculated

First Kenpachi denied the JOAT role because everyone else thought he took JOAT. We just lost a huge role

Secondly it denied the Copy cat role, something the town could have used. If Jackel58 still had the copy-cat role, we could lynch aidnai without worrying about his role. However when some random person decides to hide a red role, we can't trust him.

Thirdly, no townie would take the Copy Cat role, because we already put the copycat role in Jackel58's hands.

You are acting like people agreed with your plan. Like I already said, a lot of people did not. You can't treat it as if people were doing it. He had no guarantee that Jackel58 was going to take Copycat. While I don't agree with taking Copycat over JOAT, it doesn't make him scum. It seems likely that he did take copycat, however he hasn't actually said that he did. We could also be losing a powerful role, if we were to kill Kenpachi so early. He has to have something else good if he wasn't CPR or Copycat.
I think we should be watching Kenpachi, but not lynching him day 1. He could still be of great use to us.

Simple question. You are draft pick 11. Did you consider taking JOAT? Of course not, because you expected Kenpachi to take it.
Likewise, we expected deconduo to take CPR doc, so no one took it. And Jackel58 was expected to take Copycat.

If he has something good, well, he can claim and get protection. But would you lynch him if all he has is Copycat?
unvote
Vote: Kenpachi
I didn't take JOAT because I was pick 11. I figured someone in the t10 would have taken it by now. If i were pick 3. I would have considered it. Each player might value certain roles higher than others.
If he is copycat, I still don't want to kill him today. When day 2 starts, we will know what role he has or what roles he could potentially have and then make a decision from there.

Exactly. If you didn't take it, why should anyone else take it?
Pick three was assigned Vig. It's far better for the town if he picks vig so he should have taken it.

Although he claimed he wasn't, assume Kenpachi was Copycat. Why wouldn't you kill him if he was copycat? The person right underneath him would be picking it, so there would be no benefit to the town if he chose copycat. He did it under anti-town motivations
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 04:16 GMT
#681
I'm cool with deconduo killing LayoffRage
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 04:48 GMT
#698
Vote: Release the Deconduo on Kenpachi
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 17:49 GMT
#728
On January 12 2011 23:04 Barundar wrote:
What game are you refering to? This time you didn't provide evidence before your vote. LOR giving town useful information was my reason not to vote for him, but I posted that before the lynch not after. Fishball's reasons for lynching him was for information, not beceause he was scummy.

That was pokemafia.

On January 13 2011 02:25 GGQ wrote:
I know it's not long until night phase is over now, but I want to suggest that doctors protect our experienced and active players. In Pokemafia and XXXV, mafia just killed all the experienced, active greens leading to a weak and helpless town. I think that good scumhunters are more important than any role in the game.

I like this plan! Protect me! I have a 100% successrate when I made detailed analysis.

But in all seriousness, the playerlist is pretty packed with people I trust to stay active, and with 3 Town KP we deal with inactives/lurkers. With roles such as bullet bill, tracker, and Role Cop. We don't even need to worry about analysis. Considering that the top 8 roles are all murky, I would focus elsewhere with protection. For example zeks at #14 should be the tracker. Bumatlarge at #10 should be the role cop. It isn't really a bad idea to protect the doctors either.

As for deconduo. I'm fine with him hitting Kenpachi, Jackal58, or Fishball
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 18:30 GMT
#730
On January 13 2011 03:26 kitaman27 wrote:
@LSB, relying on roles rather than analysis? You know better than that, don't you? I'm not sure why I would be considered murkey, with the exception of the traitor plausibility which I can confirm tomorrow. I wouldn't mind a medic on myself and deconduo considering a MIA copycat with an extra kp would be extremely dangerous.

Have you seen recent TL analysis? XXXV was a game of lynching and shooting people who actually decided to think rather than blindly following the general opinion. I'd rather not trust this game on the so call 'analysis' thankyouvery much.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 20:11 GMT
#734
Well it should be pretty obvious that you have your role. But I'd rather your role be used on people who we want flipped. (Kenpachi, Jackel58, Fishball). And if you don't want to risk losing a good role, Jackel58 is a good person to hit.

In addition, the mafia doesn't have a reason to recruit the traitor, waste of night actions.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 12 2011 21:03 GMT
#743
On January 13 2011 05:20 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 03:44 Pigsquirrel wrote:
We need to unleash the deconduo on somebody period, just to have him prove he really is CPR doc. It's too risky to have an unidentified KP running around.


Just because he uses the ability doesn't confirm any alignment...

Nor does it confirm that he is actually the CPR doc.
However, it could shed light on the Copycat issue.

On January 13 2011 05:24 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Don't we already know this information? It seems wasteful to check you off the list of people who listened to LSB. We're so hooked on finding the traitor, seems counter productive.

All three people are included in the hunt against the traitor. Its not counter productive
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 04:14 GMT
#759
That's a lot of KP. By a lot I mean more than the 3 I was expecting.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 04:17 GMT
#761
Wait a minute, probably a weak doctor made a bad save. Barundar is most likely to be doctor, then its HaploPaithan. Save Barundar if you have time
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 04:19 GMT
#763
Multiple SK could be understandable.
Unless Kenpachi is mafia, there probably isn't a JOAT.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 13 2011 04:20 GMT
#765
KK.
I'm guessing someone sucks at hiding.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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