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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 09 2011 15:50 GMT
#341
Also keep in mind both 11's cannot be infront of a single person who claimed 13 (he was more unique). Nor can doubled up 11's be where they are in that draft list -_- (above two 1's, two 6's (shouldn't be above the 2's but possible since two 11's is more unique than three 2's?))

Its pretty obvious most of the fake claiming is going on in the first half of the draft list which gives us a pretty good start on where to start looking.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 16:05 GMT
#342
I'd rather have pigsquirrel and LayoffRage claim before making any full conclusion because so many different possibilities are ot there.

BC, we need to still follow the plan because the blue roles are going to be taken anyways at the top.
In addition, spots 5 and 7 are already role denial spots which can give an immediate red read if the mafia misuses the roles, so we could plug a small part of the hole.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 09 2011 16:27 GMT
#343
On January 10 2011 01:05 LSB wrote:
I'd rather have pigsquirrel and LayoffRage claim before making any full conclusion because so many different possibilities are ot there.

BC, we need to still follow the plan because the blue roles are going to be taken anyways at the top.
In addition, spots 5 and 7 are already role denial spots which can give an immediate red read if the mafia misuses the roles, so we could plug a small part of the hole.


there is actually no other number layoffrage can claim, nor can piq. IF they claim something else you know more liars have appeared.

regardless of their numbers, we already have the issue with cube and amber where we know 1 is lying. Take the information we have and run with it, don't just wait. We won't find mafia by passively waiting, we have to analyze from the get go.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 16:46 GMT
#344
The layoffrage claim is the one I want to pay attention to, because his claim does actually have significance on what bum's role is.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 09 2011 17:14 GMT
#345
I've got a bit of a family emergency, so my posting will be less frequent for the next 2-3 days.

For role picking, I am going to random between CPR/JOAT/Vig/Vet/BP, but not announce which one I got. I feel this is a safe way to get a power role but reduces the chance of being targetted by mafia. It also means they have to risk getting nothing if they want to pick one of those roles.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 09 2011 17:53 GMT
#346
On January 09 2011 11:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:
[11][2]

Greedy Greedy


Could you reconfirm those numbers Amber?

Also, you state you intend to RNG your numbers yet you end up with a "greedy" selection. Was that just a coincidence or did you decide to change your selection method?


On January 10 2011 02:14 deconduo wrote:
I've got a bit of a family emergency, so my posting will be less frequent for the next 2-3 days.

For role picking, I am going to random between CPR/JOAT/Vig/Vet/BP, but not announce which one I got. I feel this is a safe way to get a power role but reduces the chance of being targetted by mafia. It also means they have to risk getting nothing if they want to pick one of those roles.


Suppose you RNG vig (or flat out pick it to deny town a power role). Then we have a top three clash, I wind up vanilla and a mafia ten spots down can anonymously pick up CPR and double their kp without us having any idea where it is. I don't think your decision is very pro-town.
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LayOffRage
Profile Joined July 2009
52 Posts
January 09 2011 18:38 GMT
#347
On January 10 2011 00:14 LSB wrote:
LayOffRage, HaploPaithan, BloodyC0bbler, Pigsquirrel
What numbers did you pick?

I picked two numbers!
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 18:41 GMT
#348
Cool! Were they different numbers?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 09 2011 18:42 GMT
#349
I double checked my pick (pm to Ace) and it was definitely [11][3].
So either:
- Amber is wrong (or lying)
- Ace made a mistake.

As for deconduo, not picking CPR is a horrible choice.

First of all, you're safe. There's no other safer role than CPR. Mafia won't target you because you can always help them with KP if you defend people they won't attack.

Second of all, you may become a target later in the game, but let's be serious, allowing CPR to get picked my Mafia is far far far more dangerous.

Third of all, you may be screwing up everyone else's pick, and take good roles off blues.

So think twice before you pick.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 18:44 GMT
#350
On January 10 2011 03:38 LayOffRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 00:14 LSB wrote:
LayOffRage, HaploPaithan, BloodyC0bbler, Pigsquirrel
What numbers did you pick?

I picked two numbers!

Could you tell us what numbers you picked? This is very important
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LayOffRage
Profile Joined July 2009
52 Posts
January 09 2011 18:44 GMT
#351
Why is it so important?
ACRO!@! Weakness is a sin~~
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 18:45 GMT
#352
The numbers you picked can tell if Bumatlarge is lieng or not.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 09 2011 18:45 GMT
#353
So we can tell who is lying and who is not.

Only mafia would have a reason to lie, or not tell us their votes, since they most likely had a "plan" of getting good picks.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LayOffRage
Profile Joined July 2009
52 Posts
January 09 2011 19:15 GMT
#354
Originally I was going to pick 6/8. I decided to be a baller and changed my numbers to 1/1. The same as bumatlarge.
ACRO!@! Weakness is a sin~~
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 09 2011 19:21 GMT
#355


[b]
Remember the players with most unique number combination have received higher priority in the draft.
[b]


Does this mean something different then what I think it means? Because I certainly took 1-1
Perhaps Ace has some special rule? Don’t see why people would lie about their numbers that would easily get caught...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 09 2011 19:23 GMT
#356
On January 10 2011 04:15 LayOffRage wrote:
Originally I was going to pick 6/8. I decided to be a baller and changed my numbers to 1/1. The same as bumatlarge.


Aw wow you suck why you do that may I ask?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
LayOffRage
Profile Joined July 2009
52 Posts
January 09 2011 19:46 GMT
#357
Well I wasn't paying close enough attention to the thread. I originally picked 6/8 BEFORE the game started. Then I said to myself meh who the fuck would pick 1/1? Lets do it! My initial thoughts on 6/8 were apparently better, since 1/1 was spur of the moment. I would of been like pick #3/4 if I stuck with my original numbers. But 7 isn't bad.
ACRO!@! Weakness is a sin~~
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 09 2011 19:55 GMT
#358
On January 10 2011 02:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 11:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:
[11][2]

Greedy Greedy


Could you reconfirm those numbers Amber?

Also, you state you intend to RNG your numbers yet you end up with a "greedy" selection. Was that just a coincidence or did you decide to change your selection method?


Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 02:14 deconduo wrote:
I've got a bit of a family emergency, so my posting will be less frequent for the next 2-3 days.

For role picking, I am going to random between CPR/JOAT/Vig/Vet/BP, but not announce which one I got. I feel this is a safe way to get a power role but reduces the chance of being targetted by mafia. It also means they have to risk getting nothing if they want to pick one of those roles.


Suppose you RNG vig (or flat out pick it to deny town a power role). Then we have a top three clash, I wind up vanilla and a mafia ten spots down can anonymously pick up CPR and double their kp without us having any idea where it is. I don't think your decision is very pro-town.


I sent in 11/2

I actually picked 11 because I am 11 on the signup list.

I'm hoping this isn't a newb mafia tactic, because it's obvious there's some confusion. I would also hope Ace wouldn't make such a mistake. He's a little smarter than this, and probably would have said something immediately, even after I posted my numbers.

CubedIn is lying.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
January 09 2011 20:04 GMT
#359
Well in that case I think it's best that Ace would let us know if there was a mistake in the order and/or why the clashing did not apply to us.

The thing is, I had no reason to lie. I could've very well waited out and claimed 9 or 10, since you were the one that said 11-2 first.

It would've been damn-right-stupid for me to claim 11-3 when there were listed posted with 11-2 right after me. So either: Ace made a small mistake, or you're full of it.

I checked once again, here was my exact message:
"Here are my two numbers:
[11][3]"

There's no way that could've been miss-understood.
My guess is that you wanted to claim something, and you rushed it, got caught with a lie, and now are trying to back out of it.
The downside is that if I was lying, it would be incredibly stupid, since I could've picked 10 or whatever.

And I have no reason to try and get you lynched because I'm ahead of you in picks. If I were mafia, I could just pick whatever I think you would, and you'd be Vanilla.

So explain exactly why I would be lying.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LayOffRage
Profile Joined July 2009
52 Posts
January 09 2011 20:05 GMT
#360
I don't see how 11/2 is greedy. It seems like an attempt at a safe pick at the middle of the pack. Although I think numbers 8-13 would be the most heavily picked since they would seem to be running in least conflict with the low numbers yet still a decent pick. Unfortunately the nature of numbering picking like this means most people are going to be picking the middle of the road numbers which is why I was always going to stick to low numbers. No one is going to pick 18+ as their number, that would be stupid unless they didn't care about their role.
ACRO!@! Weakness is a sin~~
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