On January 09 2011 11:44 LSB wrote:
Lol
Lol
I'm assuming you planned to be last?
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On January 09 2011 11:44 LSB wrote: Lol I'm assuming you planned to be last? | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Its interesting that besides for spots #1, #2, #3, #5 there are no other clashes | ||
JimboSilvers
United Kingdom167 Posts
On January 09 2011 11:33 deconduo wrote: Woot, random ftw. I assume I should be picking CPR/Vig right? The pro-town roles are good in the hands of town, and disastrous in the hands of the mafia because they can misinform us. On the other hand, the "accountable" roles aren't really that great in town hands or mafia hands as long as we know where they are. As I've said before, since its easier for mafia to concentrate their picks in the middle of the list rather than at the beginning, we need the early players to pick pro-town roles. If you're in the top 6 and you're town, you should RNG between one of these roles: Jack Bullet Bill Bullet Proof Parity Cop Doctor Veteran 7-10 will be the area where we will assign the accountable roles. | ||
LSB
United States5171 Posts
Spots #1, #3, #5. You are obligated to take the roles assigned to you. No if, buts, or whats. All other spots. Please follow this list. Look through the debate on the last few pages for an idea. 1. CPR Doc 2. JOAT 3. Vig 4. Bullet Bill 5. Copy Cat 6. Doctor 7. Role Blocker 8. Doctor 9. Day Vig 10. Role Cop 11. Pardoner 12. Alignment Cop 13. Politican 14. Tracker 15. Mason 16. Witch 17. Hider 18. Janitor 19. Bulletproof 20. Prince of Darkness 21. Veteran 22. God Father It is a good idea to take the blue role assigned to you. This way we know where protections can go. | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Kenpachi kitaman27 CubEdIn Amber[Light] Barundar LayOffRage bumatlarge Jackal58 Fishball HaploPaithan Eiii [2][3] BloodyC0bbler [2][x] zeks [3][1] Misder [3][2] aidnai [3][3] JimboSilvers [3][3] GGQ [5][3] Beneather [5][x] Pigsquirrel [5][x] Divinek [5][1] LSB [5][1] | ||
Misder
United States1557 Posts
Either, the mafia chose really low numbers, but made it unique, so [1][x], [2][x], [3][x], [[4][x], [5] to get the top spaces Or, the mafia chose really high numbers and clashed on purpose to get the bottom spaces It seems like the mafia didn't try to clash, so I think that Either the mafia don't care about their roles (they plan to take town role anyways or is happy with any role) Or the mafia tried to get top spaces the latter being the most likely This may help us find likely mafia in the future, but we will see. | ||
Misder
United States1557 Posts
I also believe that people that posted against LSB's plan without a reason is likely mafia (I'm thinking Fishball, BC) | ||
bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
I'm guessing jackal and fishball went [1][?] because fishball said he would. No complaint here, better off giving it to a random. II'll be looking at the draft numbers closely, and there is really no reason to not to give them. After we get the numbers figured out then we can really analyze how these "lists" are going to go down. | ||
aidnai
United States1159 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
seemed like random fun numbers to me weeeeeee | ||
LSB
United States5171 Posts
Kenpachi kitaman27 CubEdIn Amber[Light] Barundar LayOffRage bumatlarge [1][1] Jackal58 [1][x] Fishball [1-2][x] HaploPaithan [1-2][x] Eiii [2][3] BloodyC0bbler [2][x] zeks [3][1] Misder [3][2] aidnai [3][3] JimboSilvers [3][3] GGQ [5][3] Beneather [5][x] Pigsquirrel [5][x] Divinek [5][1] LSB [5][1] This changes everything If the mafia went by the pick plan I outlined, they would have 5 of the top 8 spots. The town Must follow my plan. Following Jimbo's plan is suicide since A good portion of the top spots is probably mafia. My plan solves for this as many of the top picks are 'watch' picks, that cannot abuse their role. In addition, the information roles are forced to share their results, forcing mafia to stick their heads out to scrutiny. FOS on anyone not following the plan | ||
Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
1. deconduo [4][7] - CPR 2. Kenpachi [7][3] - JOAT 3. kitaman27 [8-20][?] - V 4. CubEdIn [8-20][?] - BB 5. Amber[Light] [8-20][?] - CC 6. Barundar [8-20][?] - D1 7. LayOffRage [8-20][?] - RB 8. bumatlarge [1][1] - D2 9. Jackal58 [1?][?] - DV 10. Fishball [1?][?] - RC 11. HaploPaithan[1/2][?] - Par 12. Eiii [2][3] - AC 13. BloodyC0bbler [2][x] - Pol 14. zeks [3][1] - T 15. Misder [3][2] - M 16. aidnai [3][3] - W 17. JimboSilvers [3][3] - H 18. GGQ [5][3] - BP 19. Beneather [5][x] - J 20. Pigsquirrel [5][x] - PoD 21. Divinek [5][1] - V 22. LSB [5][1] - GF Key - + Show Spoiler + 1. CPR Doc = CPR 2. JOAT 3. Vig = V 4. Bullet Bill = BB 5. Copy Cat = CC 6. Doctor = D1 7. Role Blocker = RB 8. Doctor = D2 9. Day Vig = DV 10. Role Cop = RC 11. Pardoner = Par 12. Alignment Cop = AC 13. Politican = Pol 14. Tracker = T 15. Mason = M 16. Witch = W 17. Hider = H 18. Janitor = J 19. Bulletproof = BP 20. Prince of Darkness = PoD 21. Veteran = V 22. God Father = GF Now for my points. Those roles on the bottom. What is the point? To know what they have? Because you certainly aren't denying them. I think they are better off checking green roles as mafia could easily skit out on not picking those and deny other things. While it is nice to know if a GF or PoD are among us, it's an easy lie to make. Doubt it would be that big of a deal though. They could be so much more useful checking things like completely pro-town roles or some other agenda. I mean mafia cant really do much down there anyway without help from mafia on top. One chink in the chain and mafia could exchange a lot of roles. So I think the further along the bottom you are, the more freedom you should take in checking and picking what you think would benefit town the most. And of course the SK is going to be running around, and hes gonna do whatever he wants is best for him. (hell there could be more then 1.. scary) On January 09 2011 13:31 LSB wrote: This changes everything If the mafia went by the pick plan I outlined, they would have 5 of the top 8 spots. The town Must follow my plan. Following Jimbo's plan is suicide since A good portion of the top spots is probably mafia. My plan solves for this as many of the top picks are 'watch' picks, that cannot abuse their role. In addition, the information roles are forced to share their results, forcing mafia to stick their heads out to scrutiny. FOS on anyone not following the plan A bit of big statement there... so I'm gonna go ahead and say nonsense. I seriously doubt it, but it is possible. There are a lot of chances mafia clashed hard with town. I bet there is a few up there, but DEFINITELY not all five. But if you really feel passionate about this quest of yours LSB, then lol go for it. I'm watching you like a hawk, and this is incredibly odd play. Either you are a very imaginative and irrational townie or you are a chaotic mafia that would rival that of chezinu or BM. If more people agree with you, then it will be strong because town would be very cohesive, if you manage to scumhunt the hell out of mafia and SK. I hope your scumdar is turned on high. Good luck, but I am not following your script here | ||
LSB
United States5171 Posts
That's why roles such as Bulletproof and Vet are at the bottom. Secondly, red roles at the bottom are denying the roles, because if the mafia tries to pick them up, they will be discovered I do agree, vet and Bulletproof can be given flexibility. However, would you agree that it is essential for the Green and Red positions to take their choices? There can be flexibility in blue roles of course | ||
Beneather
Canada451 Posts
I think I'll be going with LSB's plan because it seems like the best one to go for. I don't have a plan any better than his. But if it goes out properly I would be getting Janitor. Then LSB is getting GodFather. Also why was the list changed BP to 18 and J to 19? Why are pushing for GCQ to get BP? | ||
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