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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 09 2011 02:47 GMT
#301
On January 09 2011 11:44 LSB wrote:
Lol

I'm assuming you planned to be last?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 09 2011 02:49 GMT
#302
EBWOP: Nope nvm lol.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 02:50 GMT
#303
Na, I said I was picking [5][1] and I did. Just to see if anyone was going to try to deny me my spot.

Its interesting that besides for spots #1, #2, #3, #5 there are no other clashes
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
JimboSilvers
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom167 Posts
January 09 2011 02:51 GMT
#304
On January 09 2011 11:33 deconduo wrote:
Woot, random ftw.

I assume I should be picking CPR/Vig right?


The pro-town roles are good in the hands of town, and disastrous in the hands of the mafia because they can misinform us. On the other hand, the "accountable" roles aren't really that great in town hands or mafia hands as long as we know where they are.

As I've said before, since its easier for mafia to concentrate their picks in the middle of the list rather than at the beginning, we need the early players to pick pro-town roles. If you're in the top 6 and you're town, you should RNG between one of these roles:

Jack
Bullet Bill
Bullet Proof
Parity Cop
Doctor
Veteran


7-10 will be the area where we will assign the accountable roles.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 02:55 GMT
#305
LSB's Plan in a nutshell
Spots #1, #3, #5. You are obligated to take the roles assigned to you. No if, buts, or whats.

All other spots. Please follow this list. Look through the debate on the last few pages for an idea.
1. CPR Doc
2. JOAT
3. Vig
4. Bullet Bill
5. Copy Cat
6. Doctor
7. Role Blocker
8. Doctor
9. Day Vig
10. Role Cop
11. Pardoner
12. Alignment Cop
13. Politican
14. Tracker
15. Mason
16. Witch
17. Hider
18. Janitor
19. Bulletproof
20. Prince of Darkness
21. Veteran
22. God Father
It is a good idea to take the blue role assigned to you. This way we know where protections can go.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
January 09 2011 02:59 GMT
#306
I'm off to bed for now, will choose between LSB and Jimbo's plan tomorrow. (Or someone else's if they come up with something.)
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
January 09 2011 03:36 GMT
#307
I was [3][1].
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
January 09 2011 03:39 GMT
#308
I picked [3][2]
Whaaaa?
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 09 2011 03:46 GMT
#309
I randomed [2][3]
:3
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 03:49 GMT
#310
deconduo [4][7]
Kenpachi
kitaman27
CubEdIn
Amber[Light]
Barundar
LayOffRage
bumatlarge
Jackal58
Fishball
HaploPaithan
Eiii [2][3]
BloodyC0bbler [2][x]
zeks [3][1]
Misder [3][2]
aidnai [3][3]
JimboSilvers [3][3]
GGQ [5][3]
Beneather [5][x]
Pigsquirrel [5][x]
Divinek [5][1]
LSB [5][1]
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
January 09 2011 03:57 GMT
#311
I think that the mafia had two choices if they wanted to get the mafia roles.
Either, the mafia chose really low numbers, but made it unique, so [1][x], [2][x], [3][x], [[4][x], [5] to get the top spaces
Or, the mafia chose really high numbers and clashed on purpose to get the bottom spaces

It seems like the mafia didn't try to clash, so I think that
Either the mafia don't care about their roles (they plan to take town role anyways or is happy with any role)
Or the mafia tried to get top spaces
the latter being the most likely

This may help us find likely mafia in the future, but we will see.
Whaaaa?
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
January 09 2011 04:06 GMT
#312
I feel that we should all stick to one plan, and I like LSBs plan better than Jimbos. I kinda misread the rules earlier (thought that if two people chose the same role, they both become vanilla -.-), so I don't think LSB's plan was as bad as I thought it was. Jimbos plan still runs the risk of mafia getting the role they want since as stated before by Jimbo himself, mafia doesn't really have a way to guarantee a high spot (well, I proposed a way that they could have gotten at least 1 high spot, but not all). This means that the top choices shouldn't be protown roles but mafia roles. I feel that mafia is at more of a disadvantage if they don't have mafia roles because they start out with only 1 KP. Giving the mafia roles to the top of the list makes it so that mafia can't easily get a mafia role.
I also believe that people that posted against LSB's plan without a reason is likely mafia (I'm thinking Fishball, BC)
Whaaaa?
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 09 2011 04:14 GMT
#313
I didn't lie about picking [1][1]. Hopefully deconduo is competent with however he swings. Still jealous, as I had stories planned as CPR

I'm guessing jackal and fishball went [1][?] because fishball said he would. No complaint here, better off giving it to a random.

II'll be looking at the draft numbers closely, and there is really no reason to not to give them. After we get the numbers figured out then we can really analyze how these "lists" are going to go down.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 09 2011 04:17 GMT
#314
As you already deduced LSB, I picked 3,3. I decided right after I read the rules, but I should have changed my pick after you posted that damn chart, oh well.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
January 09 2011 04:26 GMT
#315
ya i picked 5, 1

seemed like random fun numbers to me weeeeeee
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 04:31 GMT
#316
deconduo [4][7]
Kenpachi
kitaman27
CubEdIn
Amber[Light]
Barundar
LayOffRage
bumatlarge [1][1]
Jackal58 [1][x]
Fishball [1-2][x]
HaploPaithan [1-2][x]
Eiii [2][3]
BloodyC0bbler [2][x]
zeks [3][1]
Misder [3][2]
aidnai [3][3]
JimboSilvers [3][3]
GGQ [5][3]
Beneather [5][x]
Pigsquirrel [5][x]
Divinek [5][1]
LSB [5][1]


This changes everything
If the mafia went by the pick plan I outlined, they would have 5 of the top 8 spots.

The town Must follow my plan. Following Jimbo's plan is suicide since A good portion of the top spots is probably mafia.

My plan solves for this as many of the top picks are 'watch' picks, that cannot abuse their role. In addition, the information roles are forced to share their results, forcing mafia to stick their heads out to scrutiny.

FOS on anyone not following the plan
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 09 2011 04:55 GMT
#317
hell yea #2 [7][3]
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 09 2011 05:12 GMT
#318
Just making LSB's list, while a good guideline, there are a lot of things I completely disagree with. In my opinion, they suck.

1. deconduo [4][7] - CPR
2. Kenpachi [7][3] - JOAT
3. kitaman27 [8-20][?] - V
4. CubEdIn [8-20][?] - BB
5. Amber[Light] [8-20][?] - CC
6. Barundar [8-20][?] - D1
7. LayOffRage [8-20][?] - RB
8. bumatlarge [1][1] - D2
9. Jackal58 [1?][?] - DV
10. Fishball [1?][?] - RC
11. HaploPaithan[1/2][?] - Par
12. Eiii [2][3] - AC
13. BloodyC0bbler [2][x] - Pol
14. zeks [3][1] - T
15. Misder [3][2] - M
16. aidnai [3][3] - W
17. JimboSilvers [3][3] - H
18. GGQ [5][3] - BP
19. Beneather [5][x] - J
20. Pigsquirrel [5][x] - PoD
21. Divinek [5][1] - V
22. LSB [5][1] - GF

Key - + Show Spoiler +
1. CPR Doc = CPR
2. JOAT
3. Vig = V
4. Bullet Bill = BB
5. Copy Cat = CC
6. Doctor = D1
7. Role Blocker = RB
8. Doctor = D2
9. Day Vig = DV
10. Role Cop = RC
11. Pardoner = Par
12. Alignment Cop = AC
13. Politican = Pol
14. Tracker = T
15. Mason = M
16. Witch = W
17. Hider = H
18. Janitor = J
19. Bulletproof = BP
20. Prince of Darkness = PoD
21. Veteran = V
22. God Father = GF


Now for my points. Those roles on the bottom. What is the point? To know what they have? Because you certainly aren't denying them. I think they are better off checking green roles as mafia could easily skit out on not picking those and deny other things. While it is nice to know if a GF or PoD are among us, it's an easy lie to make. Doubt it would be that big of a deal though.

They could be so much more useful checking things like completely pro-town roles or some other agenda. I mean mafia cant really do much down there anyway without help from mafia on top. One chink in the chain and mafia could exchange a lot of roles. So I think the further along the bottom you are, the more freedom you should take in checking and picking what you think would benefit town the most.

And of course the SK is going to be running around, and hes gonna do whatever he wants is best for him. (hell there could be more then 1.. scary)

On January 09 2011 13:31 LSB wrote:
This changes everything
If the mafia went by the pick plan I outlined, they would have 5 of the top 8 spots.

The town Must follow my plan. Following Jimbo's plan is suicide since A good portion of the top spots is probably mafia.

My plan solves for this as many of the top picks are 'watch' picks, that cannot abuse their role. In addition, the information roles are forced to share their results, forcing mafia to stick their heads out to scrutiny.

FOS on anyone not following the plan


A bit of big statement there... so I'm gonna go ahead and say nonsense. I seriously doubt it, but it is possible. There are a lot of chances mafia clashed hard with town. I bet there is a few up there, but DEFINITELY not all five. But if you really feel passionate about this quest of yours LSB, then lol go for it. I'm watching you like a hawk, and this is incredibly odd play. Either you are a very imaginative and irrational townie or you are a chaotic mafia that would rival that of chezinu or BM. If more people agree with you, then it will be strong because town would be very cohesive, if you manage to scumhunt the hell out of mafia and SK. I hope your scumdar is turned on high.

Good luck, but I am not following your script here
Together but separate, like oatmeal
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
January 09 2011 05:26 GMT
#319
The point of the roles at the bottom is because I assigned every single role in the list.
That's why roles such as Bulletproof and Vet are at the bottom.
Secondly, red roles at the bottom are denying the roles, because if the mafia tries to pick them up, they will be discovered

I do agree, vet and Bulletproof can be given flexibility. However, would you agree that it is essential for the Green and Red positions to take their choices? There can be flexibility in blue roles of course
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Beneather
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada451 Posts
January 09 2011 05:42 GMT
#320
I went [5][15]

I think I'll be going with LSB's plan because it seems like the best one to go for. I don't have a plan any better than his. But if it goes out properly I would be getting Janitor. Then LSB is getting GodFather.

Also why was the list changed BP to 18 and J to 19? Why are pushing for GCQ to get BP?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Day[9} <3
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