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chaoser
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Nemesis
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On January 04 2011 07:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: This game will have no modkills, I have decided it is pointless because both juniors and seniors are useless without the other. If you are inactive then its your loss on a learning experience and I will ban you from future boot camps. By joining this game and going inactive you steel someone elses opportunity to learn which is a dick move. I want to hear your excuse, subversion, but really, dick move. Was this just to prove that town will destroy itself if mafia just afk's? I wish the modkill rule hadn't been modified, would have saved us a lot of trouble this game... I guess I get the mafia's BFF award this game rofl. I'm gonna be bitter I think. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/1433upd.jpg) As nemesis and chaoser were dragged up by the panic stricken down they asked him if he had any last words. Nemesis glared back at them and shouted back "GUYS I AM SERIOUSLY THE MOTHER FUCKING DT" Famous last words on TL mafia... Team 8: Nemesis/Chaoser the Detective had died. | ||
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chaoser
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Jk it's all good  | ||
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aidnai
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
The reason nemesis had to fake claim: Mafia wants to say subversion fake claimed role block, i.e. there isn't really a roleblocker. That means we're in a setup with 1 blue role. Where's the blue? they had to fake claim. Was hoping some team would come along and point this out, but nobody did. Still wanted to believe in ace/meapak, but I really can't now. how did that make sense lol | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
On January 11 2011 14:13 aidnai wrote: I want to hear your excuse, subversion, but really, dick move. Was this just to prove that town will destroy itself if mafia just afk's? I wish the modkill rule hadn't been modified, would have saved us a lot of trouble this game... I guess I get the mafia's BFF award this game rofl. I'm gonna be bitter I think. Its quite the opposite actually. I've been extremely active, just not on the thread. Me and Incognito have been in constant communication and strategy talks. There were lots of plans to make big posts, but then someone else did the work for us or the attention shifted, and it just became best to sit back. This continued pretty much thoughout the game, with other people taking the charge to protect us. The inactivity wasn't real, it was simply the best thing to do at the time. I learnt a hell of a lot from Incognito, who criticised the few posts I did make, and showed me how to analyse the town, how to not sound scummy, how I should play basically. It was a really great experience for me, sorry if I took some of that experience away from others, was simply doing what was best to win. Sorry aidnai And the ninjavote was just to poke fun, I've been actively watching this thread the whole time Also, pic fixed ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/A2NwR.jpg) | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
So what did you guys think? Was being able to talk to a more experienced player knowing you shared a role and fate helpful? I know one of the big things is you have to wonder if in PM games if someone has an alternate agenda and I thought this would help in learning. I thought it failed at first but apparently for some it worked. So I would like if everyone would post there thoughts about this. What you think could be done different if we choose to host another TMM boot camp game? All thoughts pertaining to concept and execution are appreciated. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
There was no easy, logical choice for me. I had to go with my analysis, and even though i practically begged people to help me see why mango/gmarshal were scum, nobody did an analysis of them either. I don't want to lay blame for the loss on anyone though. The truth is, my play was horribly flawed and there was a bunch of times I shoulda stayed quiet but was too paranoid to trust anyone else to make decisions for the town. Not to mention my analysis 'skills'. In the end though I had fun, so there's no reason to go around making people feel bad. Not as much fun as if I had won, but maybe I learned more this way. GG everyone. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Good job to Nemesis/chaoser, I didn't suspect you of being blue. Incognito thought deconduo was blue so that's why we killed him the previous night. Personally I thought meapakh/Ace was medic, especially after deconduo flipped green. doh | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
 @aidnai - I don't think you should feel bad. You had strong convictions, you had reasoning, and you stuck by what you thought despite a lot of pressure. It may not have worked out this time, but in my noobish opinion, I think thats what makes a good mafia player. You were either going to be a total baller hero, or look a bit silly. Could have gone either way really. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On January 11 2011 14:37 aidnai wrote: making people feel bad. Not as much fun as if I had won, but maybe I learned more this way. GG everyone. my bad dude lol, wasn't trying to make you feel bad. The reason I was going grr over the fake claim is no one fake claims and then just disappears, never to talk about it. Should have been major sign when he claimed and then never showed up again, even at the end of the game when we were discussing it and I kept bringing it up. If anything, he should be the most vocal one cause fuck, he just got targetted by mafia, gotta get those fuckers back. If you were town and you got roleblocked, you wouldn't try to find out who did it? Adding in the fact that he basically said nothing all game and voted for Beneather for being inactive when he was just as inactive, was scum tells all over. Us checking him was just icing on the cake. I don't think most people could do much analysis on mango's previous things in the game cause he played a decent fake townie. He didn't say much but he was active and fuck, most people didn't say much so he fell in with those. Even I thought he wasn't mafia till the very end when he basically threw everything away to save Subversion and pin mafia role on nemesis and me. I told nemesis to play it a bit inactive and post not so much but say what he needed to say in his posts so no one would think we were blue and we were right =] too bad that also caused you to think we were mafia =/ Overall it was a good game though the midgame was semi inactive, I'd do this again lol, it's nicer than having 30 people screaming at each other (or in the case of XXXV, not due to inactivity lol). I think having the modkill but no ban would have been nice. Would have forced subversion to speak a bit more | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
as for what worked: -feeling comfortable being able to trust SOMEBODY -seeing the game through someone else's eyes really helps avoiding simple mistakes like tunneling or going off of bad scumtells. what didn't work: -too hard to coordinate schedules, I got very little back and forth with my partner (although in my past game with KJ I learned more than ever before or since thanks to his tutelage) -inactivity right off the bat while people try to coordinate -no modkills  My advice for the future would be to help define the senior's role more clearly. Voting partner or not? are they expected to post? should their posts be limited? etc. I personally like Ace's stricter inactivity guidelines too i.e. post every 24 hours. Although that's a lot harder to enforce. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On January 11 2011 15:21 aidnai wrote: My advice for the future would be to help define the senior's role more clearly. Voting partner or not? are they expected to post? should their posts be limited? etc. I personally like Ace's stricter inactivity guidelines too i.e. post every 24 hours. Although that's a lot harder to enforce. Oh yeah, I was also confused about what my exact role was going to be. Since we were blue, I didn't want to post in thread all that much and say something that somehow went against what Nemesis wrote and end up giving shit away so I tried not to post that much at all. Plus with the fact that I couldn't vote, I didn't know how to act in thread lol. Maybe next time make it uniform role? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
) and on that note I think I'll be taking a break from mafia for a while because school has started again and I don't have enough time to play. GG everyone and thanks Ace for being my senior and RoL for running the game. | ||
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aidnai
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