EPTTL Mafia XXXIV: Pokemafia - Page 28
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On December 13 2010 08:35 Brocket wrote: DarthThienAn On December 10 2010 23:35 Brocket wrote: Good points raised by amber. I think it can go either way as well. If Gabe gave solid arguments that were easy to follow then I would honestly have not voted for him. It's like a vote for reason. As it stands I won't be changing my vote for this day phase but I admit it was too hasty. I think it should be emphasised that any one of us voting for gabe could be mafia too (or people voting off infund for that matter) and with 31 players it won't be that hard to get gabe out of the hot water if we want to keep him. On December 11 2010 22:51 Brocket wrote: ##unvote gabriel ##vote kenpachi herpdederp.. If you look, you'll notice the 1st post was made on the 10th, the second post on the 11th. I said "as it stands". There has been a lot of discussion between both days and it changed my opinion. Get with the program dude. And I said Gabriel's outbursts in the first few hours wasn't as bad as some of the others I've read since. I don't know what you're seeing but if you read your post again and exclude your obnoxious comments it follows a logical order. Also you omitted some other posts in between too  to help take them out of context .I know that it was a day later. My point was that in that first post you basically said "I'm not changing my vote." And then later on, you changed it. The whole "As it stands" thing is bullcrap, you're basically saying "I'm not changing my vote, unless I decide to change my vote later" then. Thanks for the input. I'm pretty sure you do this same thing in other posts, which is why I probably left them out. Please, please analyse what I say more. It's very entertaining since I haven't received so much attention before. So thanks for that, although your comments are rubbish. And if you don't like my "newbie card" deal with it. I'm sub 100 posts but I can tell when people are being condescending because of their enormous e-peen. Yes, my enormous e-peen is what's making me point out your suspiciousness. Dodge more plz. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
Tree hugger was an obvious choice for mafia to hit. Experienced players that dole out helpful advice or substantiated/logical opinions that sway votes need to be removed from the game so the townies become less productive. I don't know about the other two, I guess since kenpachi was a town then it followed that jcarl was town which confuses me as to why mafia would hit him (ken and jcarl were buddying up on gabe early day 1). Also I'm not a smurf. DoctorHelvectica can attest to that because I haven't sent him a PM like smurfs are meant to. Didn't he explicitly ask smurfs to tell him so? So my q's are both silly and genuine. When you said that my q 'the mafia know who eachother are right?' was too silly, it was meant to be rhetorical. As in, if Kenpachi knew that mafia's already knew each other then why would he act like mafia. I honestly still don't understand why he acted the way he did unless he wanted to act out for the lols and attention and get voted asap. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
The Day post now accurately reflected what happened. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
Zeks so far hasn't appeared to be particularly dishonest but as soon as we find reason to distrust him then he probably is mafia this game. I have an opinion about someone: Gabriel. Gabriel says that he's voting pre emptively because he may be inactive for a time, but honestly he hasn't been that helpful compared to others. I know I'm not that helpful either but from what I've been reading, I'm more suss of people who vote quickly as opposed to people who post here first to explain why. He also changed his vote to zeks which would make sense as mafia since they'd know zeks is a townie and that kenpachi was getting voted out anyway who was also a townie. Personally I believe this to be a slip up because kenpachi was actively going after Gabriel, why would Gabriel not vote Kenpachi then since FoS was focused squarely on kenpachi. I know this doesn't sound clear at all, I wish i could make a flowchart. 1. Gabriel (as mafia): 1a). Vote kenpachi: Bad idea since it gives further support that you are mafia and adds substance to kenpachi's claims against you. Don't vote him and look for some else to vote without taking any heat. Besides, Tree hugger made good claims against him and has convinced a significant number of people, he's quite likely to leave even if you don't vote for him. 1b) Vote Zeks: Blame this one, he has acted suss and has shown that he can't defend himself properly. Keep aggressively FoSing him. Either he or Kenpachi goes, but now you have a safe vote that won't make you look suss since you were the one who began making arguments against zeks. 2. Gabriel (as Townie) 2a) Vote Kenpachi: don't do this as it reiterates the same reasons as 1a), it will only make you look like a villain getting rid of someone who is accusing you. 2b) Vote Zeks: He does look suss if you take his 2-3 posts. But uh. er. Kind of random. Sure a few people agreed but only because Tree hugger and a few others said voting kenpachi/zeks was a 'fine choice'. My final point is that we know jcarl was killed. Kenpachi and jcarl were both in on Gabriel and now they're gone. Can you hear me audibly masticate on my thoughts? Segue: Honestly, can someone please tell me how many of each role is present in this game. I only know that there are 6 mafia members, that's what KPT stands for right? 6/2 = 3. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
On December 13 2010 18:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: As I watched that I had these different snarky comments I was going to make but when I got to the end all I could think was "that was downright epic." Then meapak_Ziphh spontaneous explodes. Lol. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
Dodge more? Please read again. I addressed you directly. Okthxbye lolol I'm darth "huge e-peen" thienan. Please, please vote for me if you believe my posts are evidence against me. I still think you're an idiot since you have so much trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Is anybody else having difficulty understanding me? | ||
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seRapH
United States9767 Posts
WE LOST MEAPAKK TOO?! T_T Immediate FoS on ghurur for FoS'ing Meapakk. Mafia would likely continue attacking their intended targets, especially if they were chansey'd. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On December 13 2010 21:20 seRapH wrote: WHAT WE LOST MEAPAKK TOO?! T_T Immediate FoS on ghurur for FoS'ing Meapakk. Mafia would likely continue attacking their intended targets, especially if they were chansey'd. Hey, I was justified in that FoS. If you look back, he said the only thing he said was that he made a few long posts after he said he'd post an analysis and the longest one was just a conglomeration of several short posts to different people. But w/es, it is what it is. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
Hey, I was justified in that FoS. If you look back, the only thing he said was that he made a few long posts after he said he'd post an analysis and the longest one was just a conglomeration of several short posts to different people. But w/es, it is what it is. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On December 13 2010 19:09 Brocket wrote: Segue: Honestly, can someone please tell me how many of each role is present in this game. I only know that there are 6 mafia members, that's what KPT stands for right? 6/2 = 3. No, the role counts are hidden. We know there is 6 TR, one Mew, and one Mewtwo. There are almost always 2 or less of the special roles. | ||
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Brocket
Australia192 Posts
I wanted to bring this up again: My final point is that we know jcarl was killed. Kenpachi and jcarl were both in on Gabriel and now they're gone. Can you hear me audibly masticate on my thoughts?' What do you guys think? | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On December 13 2010 12:34 chaoser wrote: Pretty sure if someone died from voltorb's they would be reported as such. It was stated that no one died from the one that exploded. That's generally how mad hatters work. Kinda strange that you didn't know that...you've played enough games lol I was assuming night hit took priority over voltorbsplosion. I could be wrong, though, forgot about the existence of Mewtwo. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
We know that there are 6 scum and 1 Serial Killer (Mewtwo). Usually #red = #blue, but since they have an SK and a RB, I'd add 1-2 to that limit. So 7-8 blues I think. # of Raichu/Millers is usually the same as the # of DTs. With 3+1 KP, we probably have 2-3 medics, most likely 2. But #Medic always < KP. With a Mew in play, I wouldn't be surprised if we only had 1 DT, but I feel like 2 is pretty standard. 1-3 DTs (Alakazams) depending on how they considered Mew. 1-2 Veterans. If we have 3 medics, it's definitely 1. If we have 2 medics, 2 vets is a possibility. 1-2 Mad Hatter. We have 2 double lynches, which is basically a mad hatter given to the town for late game and such. So probably only 1 Mad Hatter. So my guess is: 2 Miller 2 Medics 2 DT (+1 FBI) 1 Veteran 1 Mad Hatter And either 1 more Medic, or 1 more Vet. I'm going to say Medic, since there's technically 4KP. Makes 7 (+1) blues. They probably have 1 GF, 1 roleblocker, others are normal mafia. That's pretty typical. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
If you are thinking about ever winning you need to hunt scum right now | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On December 12 2010 15:33 Gabriel wrote: What is done, is done. Right now the best for us is Gabriel's random lists (absolutely random and out of nowhere). Rolecheck list: + Show Spoiler + Eiii DCLXVI Hesmyrr Protection list: + Show Spoiler + node d3_crescentia jcarlsoniv Voltorb list: + Show Spoiler + tree.hugger dimnsab deconduo I'm really wondering if this was truly random or some meaning to it. You're doing no one any good from RNGing these lists - (Voltorb on decon and tree.hugger really?) and for someone who wanted me dead so badly I'd suspect you put me on the Rolecheck list (unless you think I'm the Godfather) or at least the Voltorb list. The whole purpose of you posting that was to try to wrongly dictate blue moves (very anti-town). On December 12 2010 15:37 Hesmyrr wrote: Okay, I do have to address before I go away. What is purpose of randomizing either of three actions again, when good PR can yield better results by intelligent decision making? Also wtf are you producing random results when you can simply tell the PR to use RNG to determine their results, which is FAR better method than using this "random" result of yours. Although I think this is somewhat suspicious too as Hesmyrr was on the rolecheck list and immediately he tried to dismiss Gabriel's random lists' validity - perhaps he has something to hide. Overall RNGing your actions is terrible so I don't know why its been suggested. Make informative decisions! Listen to the sound arguments, protect our assets and punish the suspicious. I am getting extremely suspicious of you Gabriel after looking at the people who died and their posts. Out of the initial 6 people who were threatening you, by far jcarlson and Meapak had the most compelling arguments, with Kenpachi being aggressive; quite a coincidence that they're all dead now. In fact the other 3 that had voted for you: dinsmab: In your list you wanted to bomb him Eiii: Heavy retaliation against his accusation - and he's in your list of DT check (trying to suggest he's scum) Brocket: Don't remember what you've done to him but plenty of people trying to discredit him as a poster by calling him a fake-newb/smurf whatever - I actually think he's pretty logical in his posting. Basically you've got rid of / placed suspicion on everyone who voted for you in the beginning. On top of that right as you get heat you divert it all to me based on a couple of weak slip-ups and immediately you bandwagons gone. As you best put it: Three posts later im the cleanest guy in the town. Throw me a bone here please. When Gabriel gets bandwagoned people say they have trouble understanding why and that the arguments were weak When I get bandwagoned he becomes god and no one questions his accusations against me. Fair enough I hope this gives you guys a reason to give this guy a vote tonight And should we vote in double lynch? | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
HP mafia needs replacements ASAP if youve been reading it and/or want to get in on that shiiiiiiiz, please /in the replacement thread | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
So... I am Cloyster, voltorb exploded on me and my extra night live was removed | ||
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