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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 03:24 GMT
#351
I think it's risky to have both detectives claim night one. If one dies the other can still function. The pharmacists may need to choose their target during day (handing out medicine), which is why I asked during day.

Other detective is welcome to check me ofc, if I get sniped he might get a read on the attacker
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 07:08 GMT
#360
what will stop jcarlsoniv from turning red when he dies?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 15:21 GMT
#367
At the risk of looking stupid when night post hits, it makes sense to have a mafia executioner to counterweight the majority vote system. It is harder for mafia to win with a sudden vote switch when half the players needs to vote.

Decon, could you explain why you decided to execute SR as soon as you had the chance, and not Aidnai? You kept your hand over him.

Aidnai defended Decon, so there is a possible link.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 16:26 GMT
#369
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7144843

A lot of people was suspicious, but difference is they didn't execute someone else as soon as they had the chance. Earlier you posted:
Next, regular vote counts are really important in a majority lynch game, by losing count someone can get lynched a lot easier than you'd think. ESPECIALLY as there are probably vote manipulation roles.

Seems counter-intuitive to rush-lynch someone then?

If you are mafia it would make sense to claim ASAP, since the last vote is always going to be suspicious, something a mafia would hate.

In any case I haven’t forgotten this discussion was started by Fishball, who magicly vanished again. I would still like to hear your thoughts on this though Decon, we haven’t seen anything concrete from you yet, except the roleclaim, but that doesn’t seem to scare you?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 16:33 GMT
#370
On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil

Aidnai had 6 votes, so only needed one town vote before Decon would be forced to vote him. "strike back"
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 02 2010 18:15 GMT
#394
On December 03 2010 02:43 aidnai wrote:
Barundar, dude, you're barking up the wrong tree here. RoL was pressuring me based on some agenda and not actual hard evidence. The kind of 'scumtell' he pointed out is notoriously unreliable. Read my posts (there's not all that many of them) without assuming that I'm mafia, you'll see I'm actually quite pro-town. I tell town not to spam, I don't spam. I say we need analysis, i do analysis. I believe I have adequately defended myself, let's move on shall we?

Btw, why are we checking your sanity night one? do you think you'll survive night 2 to tell us anything? We'll find out if you're crazy when you die. You should do something useful every night you manage to stay alive.

hmm... I don't know what to say about the hammer thing. I'm not the evil that post referred to, I can roleclaim if I have to. But I will at least wait til daybreak. :p
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 01:53 Aeres wrote:
On December 03 2010 01:33 Barundar wrote:
On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back

and it almost struck evil

Aidnai had 6 votes, so only needed one town vote before Decon would be forced to vote him. "strike back"

This might be me being thrown by a red herring, but this post from the Doc makes me suspicious of Aidnai. If Deconduo's "hammer" role is as Barundar claims, one more vote would have effectively lynched Aidnai. The part saying "and it almost struck evil" makes me think that we were very close to lynching a Mafioso. The hammer was almost forced to take down Aidnai, who is possibly the "evil" referred to in this post.

btw, Deconduo never said he had to vote if there were 7 votes, he said he could only vote if there were already seven votes.

Your first posts still comes across as the emptiest posts that tries to be useful.

As for town night actions we can discuss other targets, but how can they be of use if we don’t know if my scan can be trusted?

Fun fact: My ability gives me a read on both the target and people visiting him. So if I target someone who gets sniped I get a read on the mafia, and no matter the returned alignment will be able to point him out. Good reason to scan likely targets.

As for surviving, I place my faith in a pharmacology student
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 02:20 GMT
#404
Ghrur watching you trample through suspects is making me see pink elephants. I'd rather save that for later, so we aren't under mafia threat?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 07:16 GMT
#421
TL seems to go down randomly. I checked Coa, and got a green result. He didn't have visitors.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 07:24 GMT
#422
On December 03 2010 13:32 LSB wrote:
Coag, Barudar, can you give me little seemingly unimportant details about your role?
Like how do you go about doing things? Do you follow someone? Do you have special glasses? Do yo go through someones stuff and look for things?

I have a radar gun....
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 07:50 GMT
#424
Happy BD Coa. Who did you check?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 08:02 GMT
#426
How can telling your target be of help to the mafia? You don't have the result. It’s just interesting for the rest of the town to know, if you picked a target to confirm your sanity or to scumhunt, and who it was.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 08:24 GMT
#429
You got a point, thanks for pointing it out.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 08:52 GMT
#436
Barundar: can you clarify your statement about Coagulation? Do you mean that Coagulation's role is Green or that your check came back positive for the Town?

Both. Green and town. I would rather not have to quote the PM out of my fear of gods.

Also I got pharma protected last night. You guys are teh best <3. I didn't eat my pills though, so you can protect someone else next night.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 11:04 GMT
#439
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 23:25 Fishball wrote:

Have you ever thought if he is Mafia, he can rightfully end the vote early every other cycle, when he deems so, without "drawing suspicion".

Just throwing it out there and stirring it up.


This quote is significant because it is the only post i was able to find in which Fishball offered an idea that was relevant to the game. Unfortunately, his idea is that deconduo's axe role could be red, which would OBVIOUSLY be OP for mafia...basically, they would decide the lynch every other day.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Executioner
The Executioner may be either town or mafia, but is traditionally a mafia role.

Fishball does look like the best lynch candidate though.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 14:00 GMT
#444
On December 03 2010 13:32 LSB wrote:
Coag, Barudar, can you give me little seemingly unimportant details about your role?
Like how do you go about doing things? Do you follow someone? Do you have special glasses? Do yo go through someones stuff and look for things?

Coa you never responded to this, mind doing it now?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 15:10 GMT
#451
No I hate you all, and I'm achieving what I want to achieve so I'm happy with that.

Oh no, not another one...

1. So what is the result and the person? Coag will be able to confirm?

2. Would like to hear his response to this.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 15:28 GMT
#458
Guys chill

This is a game for fun, and it just got interesting
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 15:52 GMT
#467
This is a good setup for discussion. One issue is what hint does the Psychic fit? My best guess based on the clues available would be the third eye.

This is the reason I have been poking Coa all day. He has responded perfect to my questions, so I really can’t see him being mafia. My best guess therefore is that coag is the preacher, and not the DT.

My arguments for coag being preacher is:
1) Voice from the heavens in his roleclaim.
2) A psychic getting the alignment is more likely to be my counterpart, than someone who checks for roles.
3) How can you lie with a role detector? (a question which Fishball also asked)

What do you think of this Coa? Could you be the preacher?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 15:54 GMT
#469
Baruder can't be insane because he's the guy who caught the speeder


No, I am not a cop per say, I just have an ability to detect alignment with my radar gun. This clue is not for me.

Will read the rest of your post now sorry, just wanted to make that clear.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
December 03 2010 16:08 GMT
#475
Seems like my post got missed, mind answering this question please Coagulation?

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2010 00:20 Fishball wrote:
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies.

On December 03 2010 16:16 Barundar wrote:
TL seems to go down randomly. I checked Coa, and got a green result. He didn't have visitors.


So Barundar checks Coagulation and he gets a green result. (Alignment)
Coagulation checks someone else, and I get the other result. (Role)

If there are no more DT's in the game, and DH meant what he said, one of them is lying, or at the very least, the results they provided is false. This is an interesting situation, since Barundar checked our other DT.

If Barundar is sane/telling the truth, Coagulation would be Town aligned, but the results I get from his check would be false. Although I'm not entirely sure how a host can "fake" a role check, unless he just gives a totally random role back as a result, which is very not likely. The consequences is just too big, especially in a small game setup like this one.

If Barundar is insane/not telling the truth, Coagulation would either be Mafia, and has the ability to plant false messages like mentioned in my previous post, or Barunder is Mafia and trying to frame Coagulation.

Then there is the possibility that we misinterpreted DH's hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace entirely and both DT's are legit, but hey... who knows.

Now a lot of this doesn't really add up, and there is more I want to talk about, but I have to start getting some work done here so I'll leave you guys with the information above.

It is very important that if there is a 3rd DT, he should speak up now.

This is a good setup for discussion. One issue is what hint does the Psychic fit? My best guess based on the clues available would be the third eye.

This is the reason I have been poking Coa all day. He has responded perfect to my questions, so I really can’t see him being mafia. My best guess therefore is that coag is the preacher, and not the DT.

My arguments for coag being preacher is:
1) Voice from the heavens in his roleclaim.
2) A psychic getting the alignment is more likely to be my counterpart, than someone who checks for roles.
3) How can you lie with a role detector? (a question which Fishball also asked)

What do you think of this Coa? Could you be the preacher?
Bartundar
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