I want to discuss should we post pms we have with LSB.

If LSB did release those information with mafia, then there is no reason to hide it.
I am worry that LSB didn't share those information with mafia and he tried, at least a bit, to play town because he suspects his character Snape will or can betray mafia at some point in game. He even claimed his role is traitor.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 15 2010 03:16 GMT

#848

This is what annul post when LSB is lynched:

LSB the Severus Snape is dead.

+ Show Spoiler +

you are Severus Snape.

the red team is:

(names obviously edited out.)

MOD NOTE: believes he is a powerless red. at dawn of day 4 is told he has the choice to align with dumbledore. if he switches sides, he is required not to give the list of death eaters to the town. will no longer count towards mafia KP.

LSB is definitely lying about what he know including:
His role (he probably made it up or guess because his character is Snape)
His winning condition (at that point, his winning condition states that he wins with mafia. He also could have made it up or guess because his character is Snape)

So we still have to base the validity of his claim that orgolove is mafia on which side LSB is trying to help.

-LSB's winning condition at time is mafia winning.
-annul claims there is no lie in role pm.

I will conclude that LSB also thinks his winning condition is mafia victory. So what he said about orgolove is mafia is probably false.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 15 2010 06:13 GMT

#858

I don't know about Kenpachi. Last time I played with him was in insane mafia. Even though he was pro town, he acted similar to what he is acting now during the entire game.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 00:00 GMT

#887

I made a deal with kenpachi that he will namecheck me and say it after day3. This is a plan I proposed to him because the only way that kenpachi knows LSB is Snape if he is a name check dt. It could also be the fact that he is mafia and LSB told him that he is Snape. By having kenpachi saying my character name, it will prove that he is indeed a name check dt. It could also be the fact he is with the mafia and they have the ability or fooled a townie to use the ability for them which is the risk of this plan.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 00:30 GMT

#891

Lets go annul. Refreshing with my F5 key so many times already.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 02:12 GMT

#899

Say my name Kenpachi. Don't wait or it will seem like you get information from someone else.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 02:44 GMT

#907

On December 16 2010 11:23 Kenpachi wrote:
Lunar is.. Padma Patil

I got annul's approval to claim. Yes, I am Padma Patil and my alternative winning condition I win if Parvati Patil wins.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 02:50 GMT

#909

As another check for Kenpachi:
Anyone, other than Kenpachi, who was told to name check me, please say so or pm me. It is likely that you are used by the mafia in order to save kenpachi.

If no one comes forth, I will believe that Kenpachi is legit.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 03:03 GMT

#911

On December 16 2010 12:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Show nested quote +

Kenpachi is green. I can guarantee it.

Green as in vanilla town. He is not a dt?

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 03:41 GMT

#913

On December 16 2010 11:44 LunarDestiny wrote:

Show nested quote +

I got annul's approval to claim. Yes, I am Padma Patil and my alternative winning condition I win if Parvati Patil wins.

Let me give the entirety of my winning condition:

I win if Parvati Patil, by any manner, wins.

I don't know how to interpret the last part. I did some research and Parvati is 100% town.

Well, lets get back to decide our next lynch.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 04:04 GMT

#921

On December 16 2010 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Your claim makes no sense.

Why would your alternate win condition be: "I win if another town wins"

The only way this makes sense if one of the two of you are scum. Am I missing something?

Are you aware of your twins identity?

My winning condition is as it is stated. Interpret however you want.
Also, I don't know who my sister is.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 04:13 GMT

#923

In the case of my circle, Annul had to say it explicitly that the circle is made out of all townies. So I presume that circles with both town and mafia exist. In another word, if your role pm didn't say your circle is made out of all townies, beware.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 16 2010 18:21 GMT

#953

In ravenclaw, only I have an alternative win condition. Well, Mr. Zergling and beneather never say anything about their win conditions so I assume they have none.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 17 2010 01:57 GMT

#991

Pandain does look suspicious, but he is posting even less in pokemafia.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 17 2010 19:14 GMT

#1038

Last night when Dr.H start defending Pandain about his lack of activeness and his busy laddering, I suspected something. Now, Kitaman is very desperate to lynch a liar, smurf, and role fisher.

Liar: (one case)

I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H.

Smurf: From Airbag to Dr.H. Can anyone give me a reason why he switch back to his real account? The first thing he do after switching back is to protect Pandain.

The above are just some reasons I can think of for now. I will be posting more if I found something.

By lynching Dr.H, we also get to know if Pandain is town or mafia. If Dr.H is mafia, then Pandain who he try so hard to protect is also mafia.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 17 2010 19:16 GMT

#1039

When I say "Kitaman is very desperate to lynch a liar, smurf, and role fisher," I was trying to say that it is uncommon that a mafia tries so hard and even willing to wager his life to get someone lynched.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 17 2010 19:23 GMT

#1040

Triple post...

The quote above is from jcarlsoniv, not me.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 17 2010 19:57 GMT

#1044

From jcarlsoniv:
I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H.

We really need Kitaman's dt to claim now. If the dt claims, we will be certain that either the dt or Dr.H is lying.
If the dt is telling the truth, we kill a mafia in exchange for a dt to be out in the open which I think it a good trade.
If the dt is lying, we lynch a medic in exchange for a mafia lynch tomorrow. This is not as good but at least we get a compensation.

I don't think we shouldn't lynch someone because they claim a certain role.

There is an alternative plan to prove Dr.H is town:
Kenpachi can name check Dr.H.
And Dr.H can protect Kenpachi.

This plan will ensure Kenpachi's safety and we can confirm Dr.H's alignment.
If Kenpachi dies, then we lynch Dr.H tomorrow. The risk is the mafia can roleblock or bus either of them to make it not work.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 17 2010 21:35 GMT

#1054

Something don't make sense here. The reasons that we are lynching Dr.H is because:

1. He defends Pandain. We can't use this to determine if he is town or mafia.

2. jcarlsoniv's post

This post shows us that Dr.H claimed to jcarlsoniv to be Poppy. jcarlsoniv was told by Kitaman who was told by a dt that another Poppy was found.

There's too many loopholes here.
If either Kitaman or the dt is mafia, then lynching Dr.H would be stupid.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

December 17 2010 21:39 GMT

#1056

Question to Annul:
1. If a person is alignment checked as red, can he be a blue?

2. Can a bus driver switch a blue with a death eater, is it possible that he will get a bogus result?