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On November 12 2010 12:58 youngminii wrote: /in DTA I haven't played a proper game with you in ages  Hope we're both scum  I haven't played in ages, that's why xD. | ||
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On November 16 2010 19:04 flamewheel wrote: By the way, one should not double account with his smurf. Quite unsportsmanlike. one should not be a hypocrite? ^^ | ||
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change your signature! :D:D:D | ||
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On November 26 2010 07:13 flamewheel wrote: flamewheel watches from the shadows. DarthThienAn watches flamewheel from the shadows. | ||
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On November 26 2010 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Artanis[Xp] watches DarthThienAn from the shadows watching flamewheel from the shadows. It should be: Artanis[Xp] watches DarthThienAn watching flamewheel from the shadows from the shadows. o.o o.o On November 26 2010 07:59 Glasse wrote: i am the shadows, stop touching my butt. huh? | ||
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On November 26 2010 08:10 flamewheel wrote: You can't watch me. Guys, I found the ninja. | ||
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On November 26 2010 09:33 Radfield wrote: OK, role pms are out, which means we're underway. I haven't played for a while, and haven't played with most of the players in this game, so I don't know the respective skill levels of many players here. However, seeing how this is a bootcamp game, here are general tips for new players. Be active. By active I don't mean post every thought all the time. I mean follow whats going on in the thread and go back over previous posts. I highly suggest keeping a spreadsheet with all the players on it, and keep track of your thoughts on each player. Track possible connections between players, activity levels, etc. Keep track of what everyone claims and flips as you go. Being 'active' is mostly an out of thread thing. When you post, post content. Make one long post instead of many short ones. Don't get sucked into arguments, they derail the thread and do little to help find mafia. Most arguments(especially day 1) are between two townies. Focus on posts and not on PMs and plans. Balanced Mafia games are won through behavior analysis, nothing more. Lastly, if you're a townie you have one very important job. Take a hit! Every townie that dies, is a blue role saved. If you can be a threat simply through good thoughtful posting, that leaves the blue roles enough time to co-ordinate. Radfield knows all about taking hits. lolololoolololololol. | ||
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I'd like to officially announce that I am running for mayor. That being said, Vote 4 me. I will make all your wildest dreams come true. | ||
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On November 26 2010 13:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This'll force us to start a day 1 discussion without elections/clues which is good imo Keep an eye out for bullshit like "nothing 2 talk about day 1 so let's just lynch this handpicked group of inactives (who are probably all townies)" Discussion points: -How to unite town circle -How/when roleclaims should be done and handled -Possible medic/dt actions I was going to say the paranoid villager should claim but I didn't realize that it was reworked into the vet role, so PV should not claim under any circumstance. Usually the PV kills whoever visits him and needs to either claim to avoid dt/medic deaths (if he is bad) and if he is good should goad mafia into trying to hit him by claiming DT or something like that. PV is just a vigilante. DT's only claim if you find mafia and you think you might be able to catch another mafia or two from their lynch. If you can just make a great case that will lead to a lynch without roleclaiming, please do that. The mafia have an information advantage over us and we don't need to make that worse than it already is. Be wary of people who try to get you to roleclaim in PM's. If you are PMing with somebody you find suspicious, open up a third party with a player you trust so that if you die incriminating information doesn't go to waste. For instance: lolololol. you so cute DrH -mafia x pms townie y and gets him to roleclaim DT -mafia hits townie y -no one knows townie y claimed to mafia x but if townie y pms townie z and tells him "I claimed my role to player x and if i die he is likely mafia" or something like that then townie z can reveal that after y's death and mafia x will be lynched Medics: protect veterans or anyone dumb enough to PUBLICLY roleclaim a good blue role. if they claim it to you in PM, that isn't enough to prot them since that's information mafia doesn't necessarily have. being a good medic is about understanding mafia priorities which is: 1. best/veteran players 2. blue roles 3. confusion targets (a confusion target is a townie who is intentionally hit to misguide the town. i.e townie A bandwagons townie B and mafia hit townie A to make townie B look bad.) 4. random town members don't worry too much about WIFOM, stick with your convictions. just protect who you think is gonna get hit, it's pretty simple. be slightly wary of anyone who comes out super early and says "omg im role x i need medic protection really really bad", that's a shitty play and it might be to draw medics away. those are my 2 cents for now. i'm working all throughout black friday. @WIFOM: I'd be more wary of WIFOM, and by that I mean people that try to use it as an argument. It's generally a waste of time/a way for mafia to get away with false arguments. Anyway, omg im role x i need medic protection really really bad. =D | ||
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On November 26 2010 15:26 Node wrote: Sorry if I'm just dumb, but where does it say that we need to elect a mayor? It's not on the role list... Voting is mandatory~ but really, im just kidding. | ||
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On November 26 2010 17:01 flamewheel wrote: Yes, wait what. AVADA KEDRAVA!!! That kind of curse? | ||
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Veteran/townies should obviously try to make themselves targets. You want to take hits. Some of you can try to pretend that you're blue, but the better way to get hit is be a positive contribution to the thread - generally, the more talking that goes on, the higher chance we have of finding someone. Plus, someone who actually pins a mafia player in thread will definitely be a desired target for the mafia. I think the other roles are pretty straightforward - stay alive, and give us info. ^^ | ||
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On November 27 2010 05:58 BrownBear wrote: Oh wait. Dammit, no mayor. Goddammit, DTA, this is what I get for just reading posts and not the OP. bwahahhahahahahahahhaaha. Plan success. On November 27 2010 06:49 Aeres wrote: I'm Joe Pesci, who beats the shit out of Thom Yorke and George Clooney at the same time! /flex I'm a bit confused as to what we should be doing at this point. The majority of players involved haven't even posted yet, and we don't have anything to discuss, really, aside from town circles, Medic priorities, etc... but shouldn't we wait for everyone to be present to talk about these things? I wouldn't say I'm impatient about this, but Day 1 seems to be a brick wall for discussion most of the time if there isn't a Mayor. = / I WAIT FOR NO ONE. On November 27 2010 06:51 deconduo wrote: Day one lynches are always tough. I agree that we should lynch a lurker, but as this is more of a learning game I think we should be looking at the more experienced players who aren't posting as much as they should be. New players are going to be quiet anyway, so we should be encouraging them rather that threatening with the big lynch stick. It would be pretty shitty to lynch a newbie day one. Lurkers must die. KILL THEM ALL! On November 27 2010 09:46 Glasse wrote: what's a super modkill? It's like a super kamehameha. I'm skeptical, DrH =P. I'll reserve my judgement until later though. | ||
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See the voting thread for details. | ||
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Seriously though, for those of you wondering, I'm voting for DrH currently because I think he's full of crap. Here's how I see it: 1) An actual medic roleclaimed to him: conclusion - medic is silly in the head, unless he's pulling shenanigans and claimed to someone else to bait mafia. Why? You don't know DrH's alignment, why would you RC with nothing in the game to look at? Simply because he's a "better player"? That's ridiculous -_-. 2) A mafia player claimed to him as medic - I'll agree that it's a little silly for mafia to RC medic, unless they plan on doing something fast. It would give DrH the power to "protect" certain players from mafia hits, by saying "protect this person". If that person gets hit, then the mafia gets outted. 3) A townie/non-medic claims medic - someone thinks they're good and is fishing. Otherwise, it's retarded. 4) DrH, mafia, lying, wants to make a huge ploy to become trusted in the town/get the names of some blues. And the "he'll attract too much attention" arguments don't apply here, because any mafia willing to attract attention is confident enough that they'll be able to handle/deflect it. I think this is more likely than the other 3 options, thought 1 is close. But with nothing to go on so far, this is my vote for now. Also, I'd like to throw in that Protactinium's first post is retarded. I'd be happy to vote for him as well. | ||
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On November 28 2010 10:29 SouthRawrea wrote: Okay please please please! Some of you really need to touch up on your reading skills. The Chaos Ensuant DID know who he was (read the role description). Also please consider the fact that it is highly likely that there is more than 1 chaos ensuant. Also try not to overstate things. (Ex: I heavily defend myself from attacks) I think what was meant is that no one but the CE knew who he was. So ie. Kenpachi is mafia, mafia don't know BB's role, mafia all jump on BB to save Kenpachi. Just throwing out a hypothetical situation. | ||
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One thing to be wary of though is bandwagons, no matter how legitimate they seem. ie. right now I might seem scummy, but if I get lynched/die, when I flip town, make a note of people who started it, and then make a note of people who pushed it. That said, right now, I don't think DrH is mafia. I never did, because if a medic actually came up to him and he was, he wouldn't tell the town, he'd kill that person either n1 or n2, depending on how paranoid he was. If the whole thing was a scheme, I'd expect a better fake scenario than that. Not to mention that the mafia can win by preventing the town from doing anything (ie. Day 1 "there's no discussion to be had so let's not talk about anything") / if the town does nothing, the mafia win. For those of you still wondering why I voted for Kenpachi, you'll notice that most of the times where Kenpachi was above BB, someone would bump up BB. Suspicious? I think so. | ||
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On November 29 2010 13:05 Kenpachi wrote: how did i predict that you would automatically vote me after reading the day post? My (and deconduo's) experiment succeeded. Why would I not heed the results? O_O. I already thought day 1's voting was strange. ghrur flipping red only made it even more suspicious. I'd be a fool to NOT vote for you, unless you have a valid reason? On November 29 2010 12:18 Kenpachi wrote: I dont understand why you included the people who voted for Pandain.. it doenst have anything to prove me as mafia. Though, deconduo caused a fucking shitstorm on me by planting a bomb on ghrur and i understand why people would think im red because ghrur voted me on the last second Are you saying you would have preferred that he didn't put a bomb on ghrur? | ||
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On November 30 2010 14:10 Kenpachi wrote: And Darth, i just dont like him ~_~ actually i despise him, but dw i wont let it affect town from winning the game ^^v On the other hand, your defense that you're town is so convincing. | ||
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To change now might be exactly what the mafia what. Granted, he might be town. But I don't want to risk the chance that he's mafia and then let him get away because the town is wishy washy -__-. For those of you commenting on my "lying", yea, I did lie. Initially, I was being cautious with DrH, but I was convinced that he was town pretty quickly - I continued to pressure him just to check his reaction, but after the first day or so, I posted my actual thoughts. Why? Because the first day is generally "oh there's nothing to talk about," so you have to make it something to talk about. On December 01 2010 04:49 Pandain wrote: Why? Because lynching a Chaos ensurgent really offers us no information. Note how nobody has really been defending Kenpachi, at least there isn't that sense of "omg must save kenpachi" that mafia would've typically done. Instead, there's quiet disagreements, but no outright attempt. This makes me think mafia is at least content to let him be lynched, as for some reason people have decided to lynch for really no reason. There is now! And if he is a CE, we still want to kill him... not sure what that part of your post is about. | ||
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On December 01 2010 07:57 Eiii wrote: Hi ken. For now, I'm gonna hop on the bandwagon as well-- it seemed like pretty decent reasoning at first, and no one really pushed back until it became clear that ken was going to be lynched. Not that I'm experienced or anything, but I feel like the info we'd get if ken's red would be game-winning. If not, then that sucks, but I just haven't seen anything that really sways me to believe that ken is green. I think the only think that could sway anyone is the fact that no one has pushed against his lynch, which means mafia are bus-ing him or he's town. It's all WIFOM, so it's up to you. | ||
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On December 01 2010 10:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Final tally, DarthThienAn is to be lynched. lololoolol. <3 | ||
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On December 01 2010 10:16 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Night 2 As the town ran around screaming a chorus of different names for who they wished to kill as the sun set one named rang out above all the others. The town jeered and cheered as they pulled DarthTheinAn up the gallows and let him drop. DarthTheinAn the Townie has died. i before e except after c | ||
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On December 03 2010 13:48 flamewheel wrote: Darth flamewheel watches. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://image63.webshots.com/163/1/98/84/404319884prqdbc_fs.jpg) I just found my new favorite picture. Resize, damn it! Did someone call me? | ||
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On December 08 2010 10:46 Radfield wrote: Agreed, though I'd like to hope that I wasn't completely obvious until Day 2.... I thought you were pretty obvious. I was surprised you weren't dead the day after I died ><. Especially because you didn't die night 1. Like so obvious! lol. | ||
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