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KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 20 2010 03:29 GMT
#781
Rather than relying on your epic debate skills, I instead decided to search the topic and look around at your behaviors.
I don't trust your debate too much, although I do put it into consideration.
The reason I don't really enjoy the debate you guys had is that it was far, FAR too hard to follow. As much as I enjoy reading these forums, reading your debate and then having to search for a huge amount of posts really takes away from the analysis that I can produce.

These are several pro town posts glasse has had that you ignored.

shouldnt the town also have a copy then?

it would help a lot with this clam thing

In this quote, he is asking for deconduo for the town to have the role pm list also, instead of just mafia. This is a pro-town action.

can you really vote for no one?
also i would not do that, it makes it much easier to manipulate a vote for mafia if over half of the town doesnt even vote

Warns town against no-lynch daytimes, in concurrence with Dr.H (who was town) and other people. Seems pro-town, but mafia also advocated this, so this i'll call neutral.

Another thing I have to note:
Votes:

No Lynch (3)

KtheZ
LSB
kenpachi

Dr. H (2)

youngminii
Coagulation

Pandain (1)

Dr. H

Kenpachi (1)

Glasse

Coagulation (1)

Artanis

Yet to vote: Pandain

Voting ends in just under 8 hours.

To clarify some more voting rules:
-The person with the most votes will get lynched (not the majority, sorry). This includes 'No One'
-If there is a tie, then no one will be lynched.

Glasse voted kenpachi when there were 3 people voting No-vote, ans 0 votes weres on youngminii.
However, youngminii actually was lynched.
Glasse voted for kenpachi when there was no definitive evidence pointing at anyone, but then a bandwagon formed out of nowhere and hit youngminii. Glasse's vote DID matter, in fact. Him voting a mafia that early was a pro-town indication, since no mafia would vote for themselves when NOBODY HAD VOTED FOR ANYONE ELSE YET. I dont understand how you can call his vote irrelevant, when it could have made a HUGE difference, because he was right.
In fact, this then happened
Votes:

No Lynch (3)

KtheZ
LSB
kenpachi

Dr. H (2)

youngminii
Coagulation

Kenpachi (2)

Pandain
Glasse

Coagulation (1)

Artanis

Youngminii (1)

Dr. H

And kenpachi was one of the leading figures for lynch, yet once again somehow youngminii was lynched with 1 vote. What I'm trying to say is that Glasse voting for kenpachi actually IS indicative of his pro-town status, and it actually DID matter in the lynch process. Had glasse voted kenpachi at the last second, then I would have considered it a bus, but since he voted him in the very beginning, it is not.

End result:
youngminii (4) <----- SOMEHOW GAINED 3 VOTES
Coagulation
Dr. H
kenpachi
LSB

kenpachi (2)
Pandain
Glasse

Coagulation (1)
Artanis

Dr. H (1)
youngminii

No Lynch (1)
kthez



And this is what bugs me the most. You said that from this

i just dont have anything important to say :3

SORRY!


He was obviously pro-mafia, but if you would read maybe 1 or 2 posts after:
i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something.

He DID contribute.

This MAY be continued.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 03:35 GMT
#782
On November 20 2010 12:29 KtheZ wrote:
Rather than relying on your epic debate skills, I instead decided to search the topic and look around at your behaviors.
I don't trust your debate too much, although I do put it into consideration.
The reason I don't really enjoy the debate you guys had is that it was far, FAR too hard to follow. As much as I enjoy reading these forums, reading your debate and then having to search for a huge amount of posts really takes away from the analysis that I can produce.
That was where I proved everything...
These are several pro town posts glasse has had that you ignored.

Show nested quote +
shouldnt the town also have a copy then?

it would help a lot with this clam thing

In this quote, he is asking for deconduo for the town to have the role pm list also, instead of just mafia. This is a pro-town action.
Again, not that pro town since it was already in the op
Show nested quote +

can you really vote for no one?
also i would not do that, it makes it much easier to manipulate a vote for mafia if over half of the town doesnt even vote

Warns town against no-lynch daytimes, in concurrence with Dr.H (who was town) and other people. Seems pro-town, but mafia also advocated this, so this i'll call neutral.
Neutral indeed.

Another thing I have to note:
Show nested quote +
Votes:

No Lynch (3)

KtheZ
LSB
kenpachi

Dr. H (2)

youngminii
Coagulation

Pandain (1)

Dr. H

Kenpachi (1)

Glasse

Coagulation (1)

Artanis

Yet to vote: Pandain

Voting ends in just under 8 hours.

To clarify some more voting rules:
-The person with the most votes will get lynched (not the majority, sorry). This includes 'No One'
-If there is a tie, then no one will be lynched.

Glasse voted kenpachi when there were 3 people voting No-vote, ans 0 votes weres on youngminii.
However, youngminii actually was lynched.
Glasse voted for kenpachi when there was no definitive evidence pointing at anyone, but then a bandwagon formed out of nowhere and hit youngminii. Glasse's vote DID matter, in fact. Him voting a mafia that early was a pro-town indication, since no mafia would vote for themselves when NOBODY HAD VOTED FOR ANYONE ELSE YET. I dont understand how you can call his vote irrelevant, when it could have made a HUGE difference, because he was right.
Disagree entirely. not only could he not have foreseen that(nor anybody), but kenpachi was never ever tied for the lead. In addition, glasse was afk for that whole portion. going further, I already explained that him voting for kenpachi does not mean anything since he was not in danger. I however, said coag was certainly mafia before he was even killed!
In fact, this then happened
Show nested quote +
Votes:

No Lynch (3)

KtheZ
LSB
kenpachi

Dr. H (2)

youngminii
Coagulation

Kenpachi (2)

Pandain
Glasse

Coagulation (1)

Artanis

Youngminii (1)

Dr. H

And kenpachi was one of the leading figures for lynch, yet once again somehow youngminii was lynched with 1 vote. What I'm trying to say is that Glasse voting for kenpachi actually IS indicative of his pro-town status, and it actually DID matter in the lynch process. Had glasse voted kenpachi at the last second, then I would have considered it a bus, but since he voted him in the very beginning, it is not.
See above, its not

End result:
Show nested quote +
youngminii (4) <----- SOMEHOW GAINED 3 VOTES
Coagulation
Dr. H
kenpachi
LSB

kenpachi (2)
Pandain
Glasse

Coagulation (1)
Artanis

Dr. H (1)
youngminii

No Lynch (1)
kthez



And this is what bugs me the most. You said that from this

Show nested quote +
i just dont have anything important to say :3

SORRY!


He was obviously pro-mafia, but if you would read maybe 1 or 2 posts after:
Show nested quote +
i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something.

He DID contribute.
Exactly! Isn't it obvious. He says he doesn't have anything important to say, and then lays suspicion on doctor h, and later says kenpachi should've been shot(yet never said anything about him during that critical time! Very anti town. Note I DID account for both of these posts, they were talked about during the debate -.-.
I really urge you to read those, please.


This MAY be continued.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 03:38 GMT
#783
Kenpachi this is the final lynch. You decide the outcome of the game. Please read the debates.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 03:47 GMT
#784
a copy of role pms were not in the op

i voted kenpachi and then said voting for no one was bad, expecting the people that voted for it to change. there was a considerable chance they would vote for him because he's a lurker, and people like to do that

i said i didnt have anything important to say, then i said something because i was asked what i thought about drh by someone(forgot who), not because i had to say it.

kenpachi is dead btw, i doubt he'd go through about 200 posts of arguments
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 03:48 GMT
#785
*it was LSB that asked me
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 03:51 GMT
#786
On November 20 2010 12:47 Glasse wrote:
a copy of role pms were not in the op

i voted kenpachi and then said voting for no one was bad, expecting the people that voted for it to change. there was a considerable chance they would vote for him because he's a lurker, and people like to do that

i said i didnt have anything important to say, then i said something because i was asked what i thought about drh by someone(forgot who), not because i had to say it.

kenpachi is dead btw, i doubt he'd go through about 200 posts of arguments


ur right, I meant just the descriptions. Still, doesn't really mean anything lol.
And again, you said that once, you talked about kenpachi once(before after YM shot dr. h), and now you're saying you foresaw this all? Stop bsing.

im tired of you bs arguments.
KtheZ, if you really don't see how glasse is just so plainly scum, I'm seriously just about to vote for myself.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 20 2010 03:55 GMT
#787
On November 20 2010 12:38 Pandain wrote:
Kenpachi this is the final lynch. You decide the outcome of the game. Please read the debates.



kenpachi is dead
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 04:00 GMT
#788
On November 20 2010 12:51 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 12:47 Glasse wrote:
a copy of role pms were not in the op

i voted kenpachi and then said voting for no one was bad, expecting the people that voted for it to change. there was a considerable chance they would vote for him because he's a lurker, and people like to do that

i said i didnt have anything important to say, then i said something because i was asked what i thought about drh by someone(forgot who), not because i had to say it.

kenpachi is dead btw, i doubt he'd go through about 200 posts of arguments


ur right, I meant just the descriptions. Still, doesn't really mean anything lol.
And again, you said that once, you talked about kenpachi once(before after YM shot dr. h), and now you're saying you foresaw this all? Stop bsing.

im tired of you bs arguments.
KtheZ, if you really don't see how glasse is just so plainly scum, I'm seriously just about to vote for myself.



i didnt say i forsaw everything, i just hoped people would at least vote something else than no lynch, which could have been dangerous since i put kenpachi on the map with 1 vote

i fail to see how i'm plainly scum. Honestly i just don't see it. I can see how your pressure play is though.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 04:00 GMT
#789
On November 20 2010 12:55 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 12:38 Pandain wrote:
Kenpachi this is the final lynch. You decide the outcome of the game. Please read the debates.



kenpachi is dead


ROFL
wtf
I mean KtheZ
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 04:01 GMT
#790
On November 20 2010 13:00 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 12:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 20 2010 12:47 Glasse wrote:
a copy of role pms were not in the op

i voted kenpachi and then said voting for no one was bad, expecting the people that voted for it to change. there was a considerable chance they would vote for him because he's a lurker, and people like to do that

i said i didnt have anything important to say, then i said something because i was asked what i thought about drh by someone(forgot who), not because i had to say it.

kenpachi is dead btw, i doubt he'd go through about 200 posts of arguments


ur right, I meant just the descriptions. Still, doesn't really mean anything lol.
And again, you said that once, you talked about kenpachi once(before after YM shot dr. h), and now you're saying you foresaw this all? Stop bsing.

im tired of you bs arguments.
KtheZ, if you really don't see how glasse is just so plainly scum, I'm seriously just about to vote for myself.



i didnt say i forsaw everything, i just hoped people would at least vote something else than no lynch, which could have been dangerous since i put kenpachi on the map with 1 vote

i fail to see how i'm plainly scum. Honestly i just don't see it. I can see how your pressure play is though.

yes, that one vote, it was so crucial.
the very first vote.
the only vote at first.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 04:02 GMT
#791
yea, there were a few other names there with 1 votes, i could've voted anyone else and kenpachi would have went completely unnoticed. you are assuming that i'm mafia AND that i'm retarded.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 04:07 GMT
#792
Actually it was smart to vote kenpachi. If you could vote someone,and you didn't think they would get lynched, voting a mafia would set up up later.
again, misrepresenting the situation.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 04:10 GMT
#793
alright i'm smart but i'll concede, i'm not THAT smart. You are telling me i set that up way back then so right now at the end of the game i could win this argument against you?

you're the one misrepresenting the situation afaik
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 04:13 GMT
#794
it's not like its a huge plan. you saw an opportunuity, you went for it. no big thing. sheesh.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 04:14 GMT
#795
do you even realize what you are saying right now?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 04:15 GMT
#796
kthez i need you active. I'm seriously considering going to sleep but obviously can't because if i do, then I can't vote, so at most it'll end with no one being lynched(tied.) So please, be active.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 04:15 GMT
#797
On November 20 2010 13:14 Glasse wrote:
do you even realize what you are saying right now?


of course i do. your the one denying everything because "im not that smart hur hur"
sorry if i sound mean, im pretty pissed already
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 04:19 GMT
#798
wait, we have 2 votes on you so you would get lynched, no ties.

And no, no one could have planned a head that much that a single vote early in the game would win or lose the game, that is completely unrealistic. just the fact that you can think about that shows that you can't bring up anymore good points
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 04:23 GMT
#799
If KtheZ realizes your mafia, then even if he unvotes it'll be 1v1.
Dude, its not about winning or losing the game. It's about setting yourself in the future. It's called busing, it happens all the time.
you denying that just makes it all the more obvious.

KtheZ, I have one request of you. For now, unvote me, so I can vote glasse safely. Than I plead you, I beg of you, to actually read everything,and I know, I know somehow deep in my heart that you'll see my side. I don't care if it seems hopeless, I have faith, because I know I'm right. But right now, even if you do see, then you can't change the outcome. That's why I want you to unvote me, and finally, after thinking it through well, vote. But now it seems it'll just be impossible, so that's why I'm pleading you.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 20 2010 04:25 GMT
#800
setting myself in the future for what? i don't even understand how that makes sense.

Also i recall you talking shit because of the "trust me" part

idk if kthez will revote again after what he said, also idk if hes even reading.
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