EPTOn November 19 2010 12:54 Glasse wrote:
there is no possibility that i'm original mafia and i proved that
there is no possibility that i'm original mafia and i proved that
prove it
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
Your hundreds of dropped arguments, as well as you unrelentless and hypocritical hounding of Glasse to prove himself when you silently drop many arguments made against you, make me think you are mafia. Glasse voted for mafia both times. Would a mafia really bus his allies TWICE? | ||
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Pandain
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afk 10 or so minutes KtheZ, please, do you admit that I'm not confirmed mafia? I want to know at least tha tmuch. | ||
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Glasse
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On November 19 2010 12:55 Pandain wrote: Irrelevant. And it just happened the previous page, go look at it. Heck, you've been reading this thread. That is not an acceptable answer. i saw the post, i just dont understand how it links to me. it could also relate to you, you are trying to prove yourself with big fake analysis because you are mafia and it's the only thing you know how to fucking do, just like in previous games | ||
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Pandain
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kthez please read my analaysis of glasse.http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7011394 im about to explode here. I clearly explain why his votes did not matter. And I never said glasse tried to convert me. He converted coag. Coag protected LSB. And coag was medic. I mean, he claimed it. And sure he was mafia, but what else would he claim? That was like probalby the one safe role to claim(since he knew no one else had it.) And I have hardly dropped any arguments, only irrelevant ones. I've dropped 3, he has to respond to like 12. He hasn't even responded to my response to his "defense". | ||
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Pandain
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On November 19 2010 12:57 Glasse wrote: i saw the post, i just dont understand how it links to me. it could also relate to you, you are trying to prove yourself with big fake analysis because you are mafia and it's the only thing you know how to fucking do, just like in previous games so I'm trying to prove I'm mafia by doing analysis? and obviously your town because you hate analysis, right? | ||
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Pandain
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Glasse
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There are more chances that you were actually converted, as you kept saying shrink should not protect himself because lsb was more important, so if you were shrink you would have protected him, but you were medic and you tried to protect him and got converted The only case where i am mafia is if i started as mafia, which i did not, because of multiple points i pointed out earlier, the most important one being that the 2 main yakuza were killed. Also your whole "bussing your teamate as mafia", coag did it to you right after you got caught by lsb to gain credibility someone pm me when pandain decide to vote/game is over, i dont even want to answer all his made up things. Hopefully it'll end up town winning, i'm going to sleep oh 1 more thing: this is making me want to never play mafia again, because i'm bringing up good points and hes just dodging them all and try to focus on other shit, it feels like i've been arguing with a wall because it did not bring anything new, this is not fun at all when hes OBVIOUSLY wrong on multiple things, contradicts himself, i point it out, he dodges it and contradicts himself on something else one thing i know is that if i'm ever mafia in a game and pandain isnt, or if i have a kp, you can be sure as hell he's going to fucking die night 1 so he doesnt pollute another game i'm in. i'm going to sleep, hopefully i'll calm down soon enough | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
ok i'm closing tl and going to sleep now | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
1.The main two yazukas were killed(unknown) 2. I'm medic(false, coag was) 3.Coag voted me because he wanted me to gain town cred? Man coag wanted me dead rofl. 4.Good night. But again KtheZ, knowing all the ASSUMPTIONS that are going on, and everything, just I need to know this at least before I go to sleep. Am I a "confirmed mafia." | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
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Pandain
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Pandain
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Again, I'm not asking you to vote glasse. Just to unvote me. You can still be suscipcious, and I hope I will sufficiently adress them tommorow. But right now, will you be open? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
I will not unvote you now. Day doesnt even end till you vote, so you have plenty of time to explain yourself, but take this word of warning: My mafia senses are tingling! | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
It's more symbolic than anything, you can always change. But the fact is no one is confirmed, and I'm begging you to be open. Can't you find it anywhere, don't you even think a tiny bit that what I say is true? Don't you have at least a sliver of doubt on glasse because of my analysis? Or the contradictions I've shown? Or his misleading statements? | ||
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Pandain
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KtheZ
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Glasse
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is the day 24 or 48 hours today | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On November 19 2010 13:27 Pandain wrote: I don't understand why you think Glasse is more "townie" than me... It's more symbolic than anything, you can always change. But the fact is no one is confirmed, and I'm begging you to be open. Can't you find it anywhere, don't you even think a tiny bit that what I say is true? Don't you have at least a sliver of doubt on glasse because of my analysis? Or the contradictions I've shown? Or his misleading statements? or because you contradicted yourself a whole lot to make me look bad or your misleading posts that twist my words your way | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On November 19 2010 21:07 Glasse wrote: or because you contradicted yourself a whole lot to make me look bad or your misleading posts that twist my words your way Back up those statements. Anyway... time to prove my innocence. Please read this whole post Why it is more likely Glasse is mafia than me. Right now, the only thing glasse has to “prove” as a possible mafia is the fact that kenpachi tried to convert me. And now you KtheZ has been saying that “its more likely your just lying rather than that coag actually protected glasse”. But is it? Here you will see that it’s really not. Why is my story more likely than glasses? Because if you believe my story, everything fits. If you believe glasse, nothing does. If you believe glasse, than why would coag(who he claims has been my scum buddy) vote me SO QUICKLY after lsb tracked kenpachi. LSB said it right, coag would have waited if we were linked). But if you believe me, it makes perfect sense. Perfect opportunity to try to frame me as scum. If you believe glasse, then why would he protect himself night one when he was in no real danger If you believe me, it makes perfect sense. I was doing what the town had already decided, that LSB was indeed confirmed and must be protected. If you believe me, then it makes perfect sense why glasse voted coag. If you believe glasse, then why wouldn’t I have done the same. If you believe me, it makes perfect sense why I stated that coag was mafia. If you believe glasse, it doesn’t. If you believe me, it makes perfect sense why coag acted so insincere when being voted by glasse, because it was planned. If you believe glasse, you are going even farther into speculation, that me and coag planned that, even though I later said coag was 100% mafia. If you believe me, my night actions make perfect sense. If you believe glasse, they don’t. If you believe me, it makes pefect sense why glasse tried to lay suscipcion on doctor h while youngminii was deciding who to shoot. If you believe glasse, it makes no sense why he would do that and later say kenpachi shouldv’e been shot. If you believe me, it makes pefect sense If you believe me, you are voting because or reason, because of informed decisions, because of analysis and because of the foundations of scum hunting, the same which led me to pin kenpachi. If you believe glasse, you are relying on one statement, one that I am proving doesn’t make me more likely mafia as he loves to claim, you are relying on flawed arguments and unverifiable justificatiosn. Furthormore, there is no proof that Glasse is actually shrink other than that he claimed. Let me say that again, there is no verification of his claim. But LSB tracked me night one, and saw that I visited him. Glasse now claims I must’ve been a converted doctor, but why would coag have claimed that? Think about it, coag claiming doctor(if he was already converted) makes perfect sense, he would know no other person had that. everythin fits together with my story Glasse says that the fact he voted for kenpachi proves he’s innocent. But what I’ve been saying, and he fails to counter, is the fact that that placed kenpachi in no real danger, that voting him simply could gain and not lose, so really that proves nothing. In fact, once you take the fact that Glasse says he wanted kenpachi to be shot, but the only thing he said was that Dr. H was probably hiding something(YM was going to shoot kenpachi/dr. h), everything fits together with my story:Glasse is mafia. It is not unlikely at all that my story is true. I have verification of my role, while glasse’s claim of shrink is backed only by his word. Since there is no real way to confirm who is mafia, YOU MUST LOOK AT ANALYSIS. You must see that glasse DOES NOT want that to happen, he wants to just vote without letting debate happen(like he already did.) He has used unverifiable claims(I was afk) and bad reasoning(see above) and his defense boils down to: “Your scummy, but I won’t say why.” What has glasse proven about me? Nothing. He has not analyzed me(wonder why) He has not responded after I decimated his response to my analysis. Note that I always win the debates, and I firmly believe the truth always wins, because scum must resort to assumptions while I am backed by facts. my story fits, Glasse’s does not . Everything makes sense according to my story -Glasse votes coag because it was actually the best option -LSB tracked me to him because I protected him as shrink -Coag voted me so early because they wanted to get me lynched -I said coag was 100% mafia before he was suddenly killed because I am town. -Glasse said Dr. H was trying to hide something(later says kenpachi should’ve been shot, yet didn’t say anything then) -Glasse said LSB was not confirmed, and even to the previous day has been insuting he was possibly mafia. Glasse has been playing anti town from the start, proven by my analysis, from signs of feeling inherent guilt to suggesting doctor should RNG(probably got coag to too :/). Note how our debates always have ended with me winning, except for those 3 things I admit don’t PROVE he’s mafia 100%(he can’t respond to the other 10 of course.) But Glasse doesn’t admit anything, as if he doesn’t want to. Glasse still is saying I’m “confirmed” mafia, and spouting that nonsense for this whole day. And it took me forever just to prove he was bsing all that. Note that our debates always end with me finally slamming down the basic foundatiosn of his argument, and then he just says “I don’t want to argue…” ITS BECAUSE HE CANT. I hope this shows why I am the real shrink, how everything fits together if you belive me and things don’t if you believe him. Please, remember, no one is confirmed to be one alignment or another, analysis must and will come into play no matter how much he doesn’t want that to happen. | ||
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