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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 18:57 GMT
#181
On November 15 2010 03:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 03:51 Pandain wrote:
Just putting this out here: Dr. H what was your plan?
Also would like to hear feedback from other players(like KtheZ)

plan in regards to what


as in "dang was hoping we caught a scum"
and "Was hoping he would claim clam and than mafia claims calm" or something.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 14 2010 18:58 GMT
#182
Gaahhh this game is too meta.

Sorry doctorh
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:00 GMT
#183
On November 15 2010 01:50 Pandain wrote:
In addition, LSB who is confirmed. Why should you tell? Obviously in case I'm missing something mull this over, but here's my thoughts:

If it's a townie, then you know he's confirmed because he didn't do anything.

If it's a doctor, then you would know he's confirmed because he didn't hit Artanis(assuming artanis is town, which shall be found out via the above.)

So there's no way to know who is.


LSB what about this.

In addition, I think you should track Dr. H tonight, and doctor and shrink both protect you.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 14 2010 19:00 GMT
#184
On November 15 2010 03:57 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 03:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:51 Pandain wrote:
Just putting this out here: Dr. H what was your plan?
Also would like to hear feedback from other players(like KtheZ)

plan in regards to what


as in "dang was hoping we caught a scum"
and "Was hoping he would claim clam and than mafia claims calm" or something.

was hoping kthez was a mafia who was gonna bandwagon artanis after the claim but he didn't. i felt like thats what was gonna happen.

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 14 2010 19:00 GMT
#185
On November 15 2010 04:00 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 01:50 Pandain wrote:
In addition, LSB who is confirmed. Why should you tell? Obviously in case I'm missing something mull this over, but here's my thoughts:

If it's a townie, then you know he's confirmed because he didn't do anything.

If it's a doctor, then you would know he's confirmed because he didn't hit Artanis(assuming artanis is town, which shall be found out via the above.)

So there's no way to know who is.


LSB what about this.

In addition, I think you should track Dr. H tonight, and doctor and shrink both protect you.

"doctor and shrink both protect LSB so we can convert DrH and kill someone else"
RIP Aaliyah
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 14 2010 19:01 GMT
#186
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.

DrH has been putting less feedback in this game but i think his clam calm plan was brilliant.

To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:02 GMT
#187
On November 15 2010 04:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:00 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 01:50 Pandain wrote:
In addition, LSB who is confirmed. Why should you tell? Obviously in case I'm missing something mull this over, but here's my thoughts:

If it's a townie, then you know he's confirmed because he didn't do anything.

If it's a doctor, then you would know he's confirmed because he didn't hit Artanis(assuming artanis is town, which shall be found out via the above.)

So there's no way to know who is.


LSB what about this.

In addition, I think you should track Dr. H tonight, and doctor and shrink both protect you.

"doctor and shrink both protect LSB so we can convert DrH and kill someone else"

If you'ure converted, another mafia dies. In addition, your already highly suscipcious to me(i'll respond to your post later)
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 14 2010 19:02 GMT
#188
On November 15 2010 04:00 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 01:50 Pandain wrote:
In addition, LSB who is confirmed. Why should you tell? Obviously in case I'm missing something mull this over, but here's my thoughts:

If it's a townie, then you know he's confirmed because he didn't do anything.

If it's a doctor, then you would know he's confirmed because he didn't hit Artanis(assuming artanis is town, which shall be found out via the above.)

So there's no way to know who is.


LSB what about this.

In addition, I think you should track Dr. H tonight, and doctor and shrink both protect you.

The information I have is not useful now. Don't worry, I'll breadcrumb it before I die.

As for tracking, I have an idea of who to track.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:03 GMT
#189
On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.



To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.


We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 14 2010 19:04 GMT
#190
On November 15 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.



To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.


We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim?

We being town.. assuming Artanis to be town..
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:05 GMT
#191
On November 15 2010 04:04 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.



To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.


We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim?

We being town.. assuming Artanis to be town..


So town fakes a possible roleclaim....why?
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 14 2010 19:05 GMT
#192
On November 15 2010 04:05 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:04 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.



To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.


We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim?

We being town.. assuming Artanis to be town..


So town fakes a possible roleclaim....why?

to bait a Mafia to take the fake roleclaim
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:06 GMT
#193
On November 15 2010 04:05 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:05 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:04 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.



To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.


We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim?

We being town.. assuming Artanis to be town..


So town fakes a possible roleclaim....why?

to bait a Mafia to take the fake roleclaim


But what if the vet's claim because they think they then found scum? Which was very likely.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 14 2010 19:08 GMT
#194
On November 15 2010 04:06 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:05 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:05 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:04 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.



To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.


We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim?

We being town.. assuming Artanis to be town..


So town fakes a possible roleclaim....why?

to bait a Mafia to take the fake roleclaim


But what if the vet's claim because they think they then found scum? Which was very likely.

wait what? im not understand this :S
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:08 GMT
#195
But I guess I reread your post. And I guess the "we" might fit. However, it is slightly open for interpetation, but I guess I'll let it slide. Gosh I'll look silly if you are mafia.

Going forward though, the flaw in the plan might still be important.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 14 2010 19:09 GMT
#196
On November 15 2010 04:08 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2010 04:06 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:05 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:05 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:04 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:
On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:
On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote:
Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?


As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later.



To Pandain:We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were.


We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim?

We being town.. assuming Artanis to be town..


So town fakes a possible roleclaim....why?

to bait a Mafia to take the fake roleclaim


But what if the vet's claim because they think they then found scum? Which was very likely.

wait what? im not understand this :S

Artainis Claims Clam.

Lets say LSB is a vet, I know that's bs because the Role PM doesn't tell who's who.
I'll claim that Artanis is full of BS. Although DoctorH knows that Artanis is probably telling the truth, this shows the mafia our other bulletproff.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:09 GMT
#197
Alright, Artanis claims clam. Then "we" claim calm. Now, the real Calm's/clam's think they might have just found a couple scum(stupid at least.) So they would reveal that they were lying.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 14 2010 19:10 GMT
#198
ok does everyone understand what happened now
RIP Aaliyah
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 14 2010 19:13 GMT
#199
DoctorH tries to bait mafia.
KtheZ helps.
LSB gets confused and yells at them that obviously Artanis is telling the truth.

Pandain then says the plan to bait mafia is dumb.
Kenpachi explains it
LSB says plan was dumb.

Or am I still confused.

Anyways, back on the topic of doctor H. I'm getting a neutral read, I want to hear what other people think.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 14 2010 19:18 GMT
#200
On November 15 2010 03:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm surprised I didn't get converted, moreso than shot. But I provided two reasons why they might not have targeted to me. Why wouldn't the mafia think medics would protect me? Who else would the doctor protect lol and I already said, it is possible mafia don't target vets. particularly if one of the 2 mafia is a vet, not targeting the other vet in the game will keep suspicion off of him and then mafia can bandwagon me, naw sayin? that's how I tried to get brownbear or whatever in micro mafia. i have no idea why you think its unlikely a doctor would protect me lol
One of your reasons was they might be doing the thing where they don't target vets so, like your example game, you don't get under suscipioiini. The other one was that it could lead to wifom about "why are you alive." I think the more logical option is just to take you out and be safe.
Why wouldn't the doctors protect LSB, lol. Would be pointless for him to track someone and then die.
But it's mainly besides the point if a doctor protect you, the point is you didn't get shot/converted, yet Artanis did.


i believed artanis claim, i was hoping mafia would bandwagon the shit out of him trying to make his claim look fake, that's what i meant when i was talking to kthez
Why would they be so rash?

anyway about pressure being a bad thing. coagulation is bad at this game. if he is town pressuring him will just make him look bad, if he is mafia pressuring him will make him look equally bad. the best bet with him if he's mafia is that he'll be really transparent and defend some mafia buddy in a super obvious way
So we should never pressure coagulation? And again, if he's mafia, I'm pretty sure he's being coached from his previous mistakes.

I was just going to say how pressuring inactive players with votes can be good as long as it doesn't become a deathwagon
Your not doing anything though

as far as me not scumhunting sure I am. i'm reading everyones post and thinking. i'm not gonna spam the thread with FoS's on everyone who says something mildly dumb or suspicious otherwise I'd be FoS'ing all the time lol. i decided my biggest mistake as town in insane mafia was posting too much and thinking too little.
Well you are spamming the thread "tru", "he was good at both games imo" and so forth. So your just not going to spam when its actually relevant? The point is your spamming, but not with real info.

and i wasn't analysing artanis really. you said "i don't like how you're saying he isn't confirmed" but he fucking isn't lol. the other bulletproof shouldn't claim, this narrows mafia targets down way too much, the whole purpose of a bulletproof role is you goad the mafia into shooting you. sure if the other one claims the same thing it "confirms" artanis but then we just lose the whole point of the role, don't do it
Well now you say he should claim. And in all liklihood he is confirmed. I would say your right, he's not because he doesn't know whether he's clam, calm, but since you never brought it up I will stand by this point.
now as far as not saying "i think this person is 100% townie" here's why. if I say and convince everyone, say, Kenpachi is definiiiiitely town. Mafia just won't even bandwagon them. If I hold my tongue and wait to see if mafia pressure him with bullshit then I can come out and hopefully cut through their bullshit and catch a mafia. we all know who we think is town, it doesn't limit discussion, it's a pointless discussion in the first place imo
Good, they will have to find other people. And we'll have more general info. For example, if a more expierenced player is like "Hey, this guy is obviously town!" then that's useful to share with less skilled players. And it's definitely not pointless since you've already said you don't think artanis is red.
you can feel free to disagree but I want to a play a game where the mafia makes mistakes, the more we tell them the less room for that there is. artanis claiming was a mistake, let's not do additional damage by having the other BP roleclaim even if its to do something like confirm
artanis
and aren't you saying now we should have him claim.

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