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DoctorHelvetica
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the king should kill who he thinks is scum, not who the "town" thinks is scum | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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I see the King as being like a mayor role. He should never do what the town tells him to do. When they agree to conform to the towns will, the mafia will become active and control the decisions the king makes. The king needs to scumhunt somewhat independently and ultimately make his own decision. | ||
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On November 10 2010 02:28 LSB wrote: Okay. This is going to be quick Firstly, we need a united town. We need some sort of policy regarding the kings. If we're going to decide to let the king lynch people independently, we cannot make the argument later that 'you should have followed majority'. At the same time, if we force the king to follow majority, the must hold him accountable And we fear this because the assassins have sercretz mind control abilities </sarcasm> You are saying that 1) The king is smart enough to make his own decisions. and 2) The king is too easily influenced. Please clarify Unless the king is Coagulation I think he should be allowed to scumhunt on his own. most of the players in this game are decent or good. No I'm not saying the assassins have secretz mind control. But if both get active, they can manipulate the shit out of the town. If they know the king then they can push him directly and put pressure on him directly to do what they want to do. If they don't the king, then they can't. They have to focus manipulation on the town as a whole which is much more difficult. Honestly just one good scum poster can totally change the direction of a bandwagon. Early game bandwagons are very often directed by scum when the town has no real viable scumtargets, that's why I think the king should act somewhat independently. If the town doesn't know the king, it doesn't bust their balls at all. At the end of the day, the king is held accountable for what he does and he must reveal himself eventually. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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listening to the "town" 9 times out of 10 is listening to the mafia. the king should not be a robot that does whatever the "town" says, he should of course seriously consider the town discussion but do you really think the assassins won't manipulate the shit out of bandwagons? the whole point of the king is to take that away from scum if we just have the king do whatever the town says, we're handing the mafia the power to control our lynches not the opposite | ||
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No one comes off as scummy to me quite yet. I disagree with a lot of what LSB is saying and I don't like the extremity of the conclusions he is drawing but thats not enough. | ||
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On November 10 2010 05:47 BrownBear wrote: Let's hear Coag defend himself before we go ahead and execute. how can you defend being inactive and bad | ||
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if no better option exists currently: no better option exists | ||
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i never said i was going to kill him immediately | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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someone earlier prompted you to offer thoughts and responses on a few specific posts. you should follow through with that. | ||
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I feel bad for Coag though, if this keeps up he'll be day 1 lynch in every game he plays. | ||
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execute: coagulation | ||
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On November 11 2010 12:17 LSB wrote: Haha you ninjaed me | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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Sorry Coag. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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On November 12 2010 17:12 orgolove wrote: It's kinda arbitrary right now. I really wish the king revealed himself early and we went through the strict vote-for-lynch system. Do it any other way and the mafia has way too much sway over what could happen. And the kingmaker probably didn't even look at the "red"-ness of any player and just chose DrH because he's experienced. Note that DrH has been a red in every single game except 1 - hopefully you'll consider your choice a bit longer before just insta-choosing an experienced player. how is me being a red in other games even a point? thats a pretty shitty attempt at making me look bad. I don't see why it's worth mentioning unless you want to talk about my behavior as mafia vs my behavior as town please don't pursue a grudge against me like you did in the last game, it clouds your judgment and makes you look bad. this is just metagaming without purpose. if the kingmaker has to choose a king within an hour of the game starting how is he able to make a choice based on "redness"? that's laughable. of course the kingmaker should pick an experienced player lol | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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who should I have lynched instead orgolove? I didn't lynch amber because i thought your arguments were bogus and no one seems to have given any serious dissent to my opinion. although I'm sure with your expert pro-town play you would have surely 100% gotten a red on the first day eh | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
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w/e GG guys. makes sense mafia would hit the experienced player! Keep your heads together and stay cool! | ||
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