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~OpZ~
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jcarlsoniv
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On November 29 2010 10:01 ~OpZ~ wrote: ...I said KINDA UPDATED....god....I couldn't find all the day posts and got lazy, give me a break. I was trying to help a lil more. Lol, I know, and it's appreciated. We were just telling you what was inaccurate about it. No need to get angry. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On November 29 2010 10:03 jcarlsoniv wrote: Lol, I know, and it's appreciated. We were just telling you what was inaccurate about it. No need to get angry. Not angry. Just saying....Yall ungrateful  | ||
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ghrur
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jcarlsoniv
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On November 29 2010 10:23 ghrur wrote: Lynch Loanshark, just sayin. lol oh ok sure. Why? =P | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Loanshark: + Show Spoiler [vote analysis] + Votes: Day 1 - Chezinu Day 2 - LSB Day 3 - Ace, then change to Hesmyrr Day 4 - Kingjames01 (WTF?), change to Ace at last second. Okay, clearly the first two votes for Chezinu and LSB seem uninformed, but not necessarily scummy. However, the Day 4 vote for KingJames, who I believe has been pro-town through out the duration of the game, as well as before this whole night fiasco started, is just scummy. I mean, why would you vote for someone who's been helping town organize, get through lynches, creating maps, and bringing forth analyses? To SILENCE THEM AS MAFIA OF COURSE! Also notice his wishy-washyness in voting, and how he seems to follow the bandwagon. Classic scum behavior. Now, moving on to posts. First off, most of his posts are useless. One liner crap or just repetition and such. I'll make a list of them first I guess... + Show Spoiler + Are we supposed to be taking any action whatsoever right now? Like voting to lynch or sending moves? I'm assuming no because I don't really see a voting thread and because the map isn't even fully up yet. Yeah this game is off to a great start oh yeah lol. The problem with the way of peace is that the aggressors also gain higher vote power. Maybe the people who are close to those double provincers should attack them next night? You mean this post right? Gonna quote to bump it. Fact that red is first on the list indicates they probably got their province choices/name in fairly quickly and was around for the first draft of the map. From that we can assume they were also active in the early stages of the game. Probably not too helpful, but it's a start. If Coagulation is in this game (other than making the map), maybe he decided to put his country first as red Can you figure out who is who just by looking at the province names? Cause I can't. I suppose from now on we should just play either mafia or diplomacy. Not the two together. A person's provinces are all in the same color like in here, but beyond that it really doesn't matter because Diplomacy is free for all. Let's just get our votes in for the day, lynch somebody, and draw conclusions from there. Half the people in here don't even seem to be active. The cat's out of the bag for this one though I think. Yeah everyone's going to feel free to add their own country to the list. Enjoy while it lasts Hey I have the same amount of points as this guy but am only rank 48 gotta spam more. I'm getting this kind of vibe as well. So, you mean: Pandain kingjames01 LSB ????? Oh jesus christ, the MAJORITY, the VAST MAJORITY of his posts have been one liners or useless posts. What does this indicate to you? It should indicate a mafia player giving us NO information, trying to do the absolute LEAST they can to get by while seeming active. The fact of the matter is, he isn't. He's just repeating a lot of what people said. Scum play, I'd say. Now, for his other posts. + Show Spoiler [analysis] + I advocate a "every man for himself" approach to this game. Even if we accidentally kill each other off, town vote power does not decrease because votes are based on province count and not player count. Besides, lashing out blindly could take out mafia too. Sure, there's going a ton of confusion as to who's mafia and who's town, but that's going to be around no matter what we do because of the way this game is set up anyways. If you have vacant provinces nearby, take them. Okay, bolded the part that doesn't make sense. I have no problem with the plan, but I have a problem with this contradiction. You have a plan so it ISN'T chaotic and messy. You have a plan so you're ORGANIZED. Why would you advocate this "plan" if it's going to bring havoc and chaos? Hey, I heard mafia likes chaos.  I'm province 21, wasn't me bro. Hmmm, interesting. We can't really pinpoint his actions except that he seemed to have attacked annul the last night phase. That makes sense I suppose if you think Annul is scummy, which most of us did prior to his guerilla claim this past day/night cycle. Hell I was casting a random vote just so we could get a lynch and Ace was the only one with votes when I voted. In hindsight, it was probably a dumb move. If you have other reasons why you want to lynch me, please tell me so I can prove my innocence. Whoa, WHAT? You don't cast random votes!!! >_< That's a CRAP reason for voting, and just shows scum behavior. Only scum doesn't care who they kill as long as it's town. WE DO CARE. That's why we ANALYZE!!! Scummy as hell move right here. It's not day one bro, no random votes. >_> We can lynch annul, but if he pops town, then I am definitely going after kingjames. That said, I don't think annul is mafia. Contradiction! Why would you attack annul THAT NIGHT when you said you don't think he's mafia? Because you don't want more land? I don't buy it, especially when you're casting RANDOM VOTES. Of course, who's benefits from "random" voting with more land? MAFIA! Also, why would you say we shouldn't lynch annul if you don't think he's mafia... and then NOT GIVE REASONING? Your opinion is fine and dandy, but it'd be so much more helpful to town if you posted your reasons. If you have no reasons, and are just saying that... *COUGH*SCUM*COUGH*. Does it say explicitly that Ace is town? He could have this power but not be town.......... This is a good point, but then again, I personally doubt Mafia would have an unlynchable role. If we say that, then he's just trying to confuse town by casting suspicion on blue members. W/es though, that's unfair extrapolation. This was a good point to keep in mind anyway. I say we lynch kingjames. His accusations don't seem to make much sense and we shouldn't have too much trouble getting votes considering some of the responses. I find it suspicious that he is pushing OpZ and annul to use their abilities in order to "prove township". That is downright stupid and hurts town. Both abilities will be lost. You are putting them in a situation reminiscent of a witch trial. "Hey, if she drowns, then she's not a witch." "Hey, if annul and OpZ use their powers, then it proves township but then we basically just waste two town abilities" Can you blame them for not wanting to follow your dumb plan? Possibly you will and try to change that into uncooperation and push for a lynch. Also, please show us where the fuck you tried to say Ace had lynch dodging abilities. A quote from this thread. I find it unlikely that you managed to come up with this idea beforehand. Plus, this list of provinces that Ace holds is suspicious too. Ace claims that if he loses a province, he immediately dies. Maybe it might be true, maybe not. But if it's true, then it's unlikely he is KingdomOfWhoring because that holds three provinces, and Super Spitze holds none. # Hojo House # NoLanPlan # KingdomOfWhoring # Super Spitze How did you arrive so surely at these four? Show me your analysis. The map isn't up to date yet and there are lots of other possible territories lying around. If you truly are town, kingjames, please change your stance on these issues and reply to some of my demands for proof. I think I speak for some others too when I say this. I don't disagree with the analysis that Ace could possibly be mafia and have his power too, though. Oh, here's the juicy post. Guess what, it's his FIRST ONE IN THE THREAD. Scum much? Now, why would you suddenly want to lynch KJ? Maybe it's because KJ just made a post up above trying to ORGANIZE town? Hey, what's better for mafia than killing someone who helps us organize right? The second paragraph seems to show some lack of understanding. Gunpowder isn't lost. It's available for use every other turn! Tsk, not reading the OP carefully? Bad Townie at least, I'd say. Therefore, it's not a bad thing to lynch Loanshark either because he DOESN'T contribute, and he DOESN'T EVEN READ THE OP WELL. Note, another interesting thing. Loanshark says don't attack Annul, don't make annul waste his powers, and he doesn't think annul is mafia. BUT WAIT, he attacked annul himself! Hmmm? Contradiction. Furthermore, the way he acts in the thread makes me believe there's some connection between the two. =/ There's nothign wrong with asking for proof from KJ though. That I agree with. However, trying to discredit KJ and cast suspicion on him at this point is suspicious. The guy's been trying to organize town, post analyses, and get us mafia lynches, yet you want to lynch him because he worked over PM instead of in the thread? I don't buy it. I think the demand for proof is perfectly valid, but that isn't enough to LYNCH him unless, once again, you're just trying to cause chaos for town. Furthermore, while you disagree with the plan, you haven't shown it's a SCUMMY plan. You also haven't analyzed KJ's posts, yet you make the leap of calling him scum AND asking for his lynch? Loanshark, you're scum man. You're freaking scum. But hey, like he said here. + Show Spoiler + If you have other reasons why you want to lynch me, please tell me so I can prove my innocence That's why. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 29 2010 10:27 ghrur wrote: + Show Spoiler + Loanshark: + Show Spoiler [vote analysis] + Votes: Day 1 - Chezinu Day 2 - LSB Day 3 - Ace, then change to Hesmyrr Day 4 - Kingjames01 (WTF?), change to Ace at last second. Okay, clearly the first two votes for Chezinu and LSB seem uninformed, but not necessarily scummy. However, the Day 4 vote for KingJames, who I believe has been pro-town through out the duration of the game, as well as before this whole night fiasco started, is just scummy. I mean, why would you vote for someone who's been helping town organize, get through lynches, creating maps, and bringing forth analyses? To SILENCE THEM AS MAFIA OF COURSE! Also notice his wishy-washyness in voting, and how he seems to follow the bandwagon. Classic scum behavior. Now, moving on to posts. First off, most of his posts are useless. One liner crap or just repetition and such. I'll make a list of them first I guess... + Show Spoiler + Are we supposed to be taking any action whatsoever right now? Like voting to lynch or sending moves? I'm assuming no because I don't really see a voting thread and because the map isn't even fully up yet. Yeah this game is off to a great start oh yeah lol. The problem with the way of peace is that the aggressors also gain higher vote power. Maybe the people who are close to those double provincers should attack them next night? You mean this post right? Gonna quote to bump it. Fact that red is first on the list indicates they probably got their province choices/name in fairly quickly and was around for the first draft of the map. From that we can assume they were also active in the early stages of the game. Probably not too helpful, but it's a start. If Coagulation is in this game (other than making the map), maybe he decided to put his country first as red Can you figure out who is who just by looking at the province names? Cause I can't. I suppose from now on we should just play either mafia or diplomacy. Not the two together. A person's provinces are all in the same color like in here, but beyond that it really doesn't matter because Diplomacy is free for all. Let's just get our votes in for the day, lynch somebody, and draw conclusions from there. Half the people in here don't even seem to be active. The cat's out of the bag for this one though I think. Yeah everyone's going to feel free to add their own country to the list. Enjoy while it lasts Hey I have the same amount of points as this guy but am only rank 48 gotta spam more. I'm getting this kind of vibe as well. So, you mean: Pandain kingjames01 LSB ????? Oh jesus christ, the MAJORITY, the VAST MAJORITY of his posts have been one liners or useless posts. What does this indicate to you? It should indicate a mafia player giving us NO information, trying to do the absolute LEAST they can to get by while seeming active. The fact of the matter is, he isn't. He's just repeating a lot of what people said. Scum play, I'd say. Now, for his other posts. + Show Spoiler [analysis] + I advocate a "every man for himself" approach to this game. Even if we accidentally kill each other off, town vote power does not decrease because votes are based on province count and not player count. Besides, lashing out blindly could take out mafia too. Sure, there's going a ton of confusion as to who's mafia and who's town, but that's going to be around no matter what we do because of the way this game is set up anyways. If you have vacant provinces nearby, take them. Okay, bolded the part that doesn't make sense. I have no problem with the plan, but I have a problem with this contradiction. You have a plan so it ISN'T chaotic and messy. You have a plan so you're ORGANIZED. Why would you advocate this "plan" if it's going to bring havoc and chaos? Hey, I heard mafia likes chaos. I'm province 21, wasn't me bro. Hmmm, interesting. We can't really pinpoint his actions except that he seemed to have attacked annul the last night phase. That makes sense I suppose if you think Annul is scummy, which most of us did prior to his guerilla claim this past day/night cycle. Hell I was casting a random vote just so we could get a lynch and Ace was the only one with votes when I voted. In hindsight, it was probably a dumb move. If you have other reasons why you want to lynch me, please tell me so I can prove my innocence. Whoa, WHAT? You don't cast random votes!!! >_< That's a CRAP reason for voting, and just shows scum behavior. Only scum doesn't care who they kill as long as it's town. WE DO CARE. That's why we ANALYZE!!! Scummy as hell move right here. It's not day one bro, no random votes. >_> We can lynch annul, but if he pops town, then I am definitely going after kingjames. That said, I don't think annul is mafia. Contradiction! Why would you attack annul THAT NIGHT when you said you don't think he's mafia? Because you don't want more land? I don't buy it, especially when you're casting RANDOM VOTES. Of course, who's benefits from "random" voting with more land? MAFIA! Also, why would you say we shouldn't lynch annul if you don't think he's mafia... and then NOT GIVE REASONING? Your opinion is fine and dandy, but it'd be so much more helpful to town if you posted your reasons. If you have no reasons, and are just saying that... *COUGH*SCUM*COUGH*. Does it say explicitly that Ace is town? He could have this power but not be town.......... This is a good point, but then again, I personally doubt Mafia would have an unlynchable role. If we say that, then he's just trying to confuse town by casting suspicion on blue members. W/es though, that's unfair extrapolation. This was a good point to keep in mind anyway. I say we lynch kingjames. His accusations don't seem to make much sense and we shouldn't have too much trouble getting votes considering some of the responses. I find it suspicious that he is pushing OpZ and annul to use their abilities in order to "prove township". That is downright stupid and hurts town. Both abilities will be lost. You are putting them in a situation reminiscent of a witch trial. "Hey, if she drowns, then she's not a witch." "Hey, if annul and OpZ use their powers, then it proves township but then we basically just waste two town abilities" Can you blame them for not wanting to follow your dumb plan? Possibly you will and try to change that into uncooperation and push for a lynch. Also, please show us where the fuck you tried to say Ace had lynch dodging abilities. A quote from this thread. I find it unlikely that you managed to come up with this idea beforehand. Plus, this list of provinces that Ace holds is suspicious too. Ace claims that if he loses a province, he immediately dies. Maybe it might be true, maybe not. But if it's true, then it's unlikely he is KingdomOfWhoring because that holds three provinces, and Super Spitze holds none. # Hojo House # NoLanPlan # KingdomOfWhoring # Super Spitze How did you arrive so surely at these four? Show me your analysis. The map isn't up to date yet and there are lots of other possible territories lying around. If you truly are town, kingjames, please change your stance on these issues and reply to some of my demands for proof. I think I speak for some others too when I say this. I don't disagree with the analysis that Ace could possibly be mafia and have his power too, though. Oh, here's the juicy post. Guess what, it's his FIRST ONE IN THE THREAD. Scum much? Now, why would you suddenly want to lynch KJ? Maybe it's because KJ just made a post up above trying to ORGANIZE town? Hey, what's better for mafia than killing someone who helps us organize right? The second paragraph seems to show some lack of understanding. Gunpowder isn't lost. It's available for use every other turn! Tsk, not reading the OP carefully? Bad Townie at least, I'd say. Therefore, it's not a bad thing to lynch Loanshark either because he DOESN'T contribute, and he DOESN'T EVEN READ THE OP WELL. Note, another interesting thing. Loanshark says don't attack Annul, don't make annul waste his powers, and he doesn't think annul is mafia. BUT WAIT, he attacked annul himself! Hmmm? Contradiction. Furthermore, the way he acts in the thread makes me believe there's some connection between the two. =/ There's nothign wrong with asking for proof from KJ though. That I agree with. However, trying to discredit KJ and cast suspicion on him at this point is suspicious. The guy's been trying to organize town, post analyses, and get us mafia lynches, yet you want to lynch him because he worked over PM instead of in the thread? I don't buy it. I think the demand for proof is perfectly valid, but that isn't enough to LYNCH him unless, once again, you're just trying to cause chaos for town. Furthermore, while you disagree with the plan, you haven't shown it's a SCUMMY plan. You also haven't analyzed KJ's posts, yet you make the leap of calling him scum AND asking for his lynch? Loanshark, you're scum man. You're freaking scum. But hey, like he said here. + Show Spoiler + If you have other reasons why you want to lynch me, please tell me so I can prove my innocence That's why. Oh right...sorry I forgot. So do we listen to ghrur about Loanshark, or do we listen to LSB about Cube? | ||
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Caller
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Nemesis
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On November 29 2010 10:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: Oh right...sorry I forgot. So do we listen to ghrur about Loanshark, or do we listen to LSB about Cube? Both are good candidates. I prefer lynching loanshark though. | ||
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Ace
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ghrur
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On November 29 2010 11:09 Ace wrote: and why do you prefer lynching loanshark? You haven't exactly been a bastion of activity in the thread so what reasoning do you have? Reasoning is my analysis+KJ's support before he died. Lynch him I say! | ||
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ghrur
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On November 29 2010 11:57 Ace wrote: Actually that was addressed to nemesis ^_^ You're ruining my mob mentality here...  | ||
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annul
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ace ghrur opz loanshark anyone else i will go after no problem. or even run the no lynch, that too is fine. | ||
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DCLXVI
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********** ********* ******* ********* anyone else I would be perfectly happy to bandwagon + Show Spoiler + give at least a terrible excuse for a reason rather than none at all | ||
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ghrur
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On November 29 2010 12:24 annul wrote: alright well here is the list of people i am not voting today: ace ghrur opz loanshark anyone else i will go after no problem. or even run the no lynch, that too is fine. Why won't you vote for Loanshark? | ||
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~OpZ~
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On November 29 2010 12:51 DCLXVI wrote: Alright guys here is a list of all my mafia scum buddies who I won't vote for today ********** ********* ******* ********* anyone else I would be perfectly happy to bandwagon + Show Spoiler + give at least a terrible excuse for a reason rather than none at all in my defense, i should be 100% on everyones claim to list. I mean, if I was scum, I would of taken from my own scum buddy, and caused him to be removed from the game. And he was a recruit role, so I think that would be pretty stupid. Ya dig? | ||
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Loanshark
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Most of my one-liners and useless posts were during a time of confusion in the game, when it had just started up and half the people didn't seem to be active. No one seemed to have any clear analysis and basically the thread was just finger pointing and backnforth arguing. And of course I bandwagoned for the majority of the game, I don't deny that. So this annul issue was firstly the whole result of a bandwagon on my part when people fingerpointed him out as mafia. I really wasn't sure what role annul was exactly but we did have a NAP of sorts and I felt guilty, so after I'd taken his province I PMed him and arranged to "give it back" by telling him to attack it while purposely not defending. That way he could save his claimed guerilla warrior role. If you want I will post PMs. Hopefully annul can come forth and second this claim. You call me mafia. That means annul can't be mafia as we wouldn't be attacking each other. But if annul was town, then I wouldn't have given his province back like I did. My behavior is not indicative of mafia (assuming you believe me on this giving the province back). Secondly, I was genuinely suspicious about some of kingjames's claims and proposals. Read my post. I explained some of my opinions in it. And really, I had no idea about any assassination power the mafia has. If I had known that kingjames was going to be killed by mafia with a power like that, I definitely would not have made any sort of post attacking him as it would be useless and attract unwanted attention. I made a post in which I asked for proof of his claims. The longest one, and the one containing the strongest language. Is it not possible that the mafia would kill kingjames and then point the finger at me? | ||
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Loanshark
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jcarlsoniv
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If I had known that kingjames was going to be killed by mafia with a power like that, I definitely would not have made any sort of post attacking him as it would be useless and attract unwanted attention. I feel like this is something that a mafia member might say... I also claim the role of naval empowered town. How many naval townies do you guys think there are? We know Seraph is one because he attacked into SIFZ the other night. LSB claimed zerroth to be another at 28. I didn't expect there to be more than maybe two of each role, so I suspect either LSB or Loanshark to be lying. And I wonder if there would be any reason for LSB to lie about that at all. | ||
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