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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On November 18 2010 05:28 Caller wrote: Night Phase Introduction: New mechanic-Permanent Alliance. You may make one permanent alliance with one nation of your choice. Both nations must PM me for the alliance to take effect. This alliance cannot be broken without the consent of both parties. If a nation is already in a permanent alliance and attempts to make another one, the alliance will be ignored as being non-existent, but neither party will be informed of this. So you can very easily pretend to have alliances with people in order to backstab them later. Permanent alliances do not give you the ability to stack hits but they do give you the ability to "attack/send aid" through your permanent ally, as long as I receive your ally's consent that they do so. If you attempt to do so unilaterally I will ignore it and act as if you had submitted no action that night. However, you are completely forbidden from attacking each other until you both ask me to rescind the permanent alliance. You are able to permanently ally a person already in a faction of some kind. However, doing so does not prevent them from using actions on you, including attacking/converting, etc. If a nation is defeated the nation that shared an alliance with them is no longer bound by the permanent alliance. If a nation with the navy ability is allied, you may not attack anywhere on the map that borders water. Instead, you must have them attack a territory and capture it in order to use the permanent alliance ability. Once again, you do not share actions, and your hits will not count as stacking. If you both attack the same province it will be neutral as if two unaffiliated ones attacked it. Options are: hesmyrr is lying opz has a power role opz+22 are mafia/some other 3rd party? I think callers post refutes the possibility of a perm alliances allowing 24 -> 25 And I have no idea what opz is doing posting pms in the thread. If he knew where i was and wanted annul to attack me, maybe... but why not just pm annul? | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On November 19 2010 15:31 DCLXVI wrote: I don't think that a permanent alliance between 22 and 24 would take over hesmyrr if he was defending like he claimed: + Show Spoiler + On November 18 2010 05:28 Caller wrote: Night Phase Introduction: New mechanic-Permanent Alliance. You may make one permanent alliance with one nation of your choice. Both nations must PM me for the alliance to take effect. This alliance cannot be broken without the consent of both parties. If a nation is already in a permanent alliance and attempts to make another one, the alliance will be ignored as being non-existent, but neither party will be informed of this. So you can very easily pretend to have alliances with people in order to backstab them later. Permanent alliances do not give you the ability to stack hits but they do give you the ability to "attack/send aid" through your permanent ally, as long as I receive your ally's consent that they do so. If you attempt to do so unilaterally I will ignore it and act as if you had submitted no action that night. However, you are completely forbidden from attacking each other until you both ask me to rescind the permanent alliance. You are able to permanently ally a person already in a faction of some kind. However, doing so does not prevent them from using actions on you, including attacking/converting, etc. If a nation is defeated the nation that shared an alliance with them is no longer bound by the permanent alliance. If a nation with the navy ability is allied, you may not attack anywhere on the map that borders water. Instead, you must have them attack a territory and capture it in order to use the permanent alliance ability. Once again, you do not share actions, and your hits will not count as stacking. If you both attack the same province it will be neutral as if two unaffiliated ones attacked it. Options are: hesmyrr is lying opz has a power role opz+22 are mafia/some other 3rd party? I think callers post refutes the possibility of a perm alliances allowing 24 -> 25 No, you're right. Permanent alliances can't stack hits. This leads me to believe that ~OpZ~ must have gunpowder. That ability allows a player to bypass a defender. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/w5a3z.png) Updated map! | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + From: DCLXVI [ 328 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: SIFZ Date: 11/18/10 16:10 what? Oh, I thought coag posted a new map... miscounted neutrals/defeated countries somehow ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: ... there has only been one night so far. we are currently in the middle of night two. so who knows what will happen to me when day 3 begins and we find out what happened tonight? heh and as for the SIFZ issue, i dont have a big problem with them right now. this may change at dawn. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From DCLXVI: No I meant the 2nd night action, opz claimed to attack you night1 iirc. I want to know what 19/17 did last night. You are between me and Sifz, and I am in no hurry to run on over through you to fight them ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: as i claimed in the main thread repeatedly, yes, i was attacked. i defended it. ~opz~ claims it was him, and claims 24. and that information is relevant to discuss the threat of SIFZ because my decision to align with you (even of the non-permanent variety) depends on where you are relative to me and the SIFZ. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From DCLXVI: I am sorry, but I don't believe that information is necessary to discuss the threat of SIFZ. Another question - feel free not to answer: I am curious as to the actions of the central nations last night: were you attacked? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From annul: yeah, am 20. before i answer you, what province are you? ----------------------------------------- Original Message From DCLXVI: You claim to be province #20 correct? I am wondering what you feel about the growing alliance that is near us. Are you worried about SIFZ pushing out across the map? Because I happen to be near you and could help stop that if you wish. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
now, since he attacked me and i defended, if he has the gunpowder, he must not have used gunpowder night 1. i also got attacked tonight and defended it. this means that 21 or 19 attacked into me. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On November 19 2010 18:56 annul wrote: now, analysis: either opz has gunpowder or opz is mafia (and so is someone west of 25). now, since he attacked me and i defended, if he has the gunpowder, he must not have used gunpowder night 1. i also got attacked tonight and defended it. this means that 21 or 19 attacked into me. I'm province 21, wasn't me bro. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Let's lynch someone tonight! I want empty lands. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On November 19 2010 23:15 kingjames01 wrote: Caller: I understand that when a person loses their last Province, they are still allowed to post. Earlier, you ruled that when someone gets lynched, they are dead. Will we find out their role and/or will they be allowed to continue posting? if they are lynched and die their role/everything is revealed. losing province =/= dying. they will not be allowed to continue posting. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Seriously I'm just one man, I'm not standing in your way that badly am I? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
Annul isnt allowed to do ANYTHING unless you "OK" it. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On November 20 2010 00:50 Coagulation wrote: OH you didnt get the MEMO ACE? Annul isnt allowed to do ANYTHING unless you "OK" it. Is this an inside joke? It sounds like a reference to a mafia made plan... | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Where the hell is the other 3/4th of the player base? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 20 2010 01:23 Ace wrote: I'm not allied with annul so that isn't the case. Where the hell is the other 3/4th of the player base? They're hardcore lurkers. As I've seen it, annul has been asking for a full claim rather politely, an he has explained himself rather thoroughly. You're the one who is shooting it down massively. I don't agree with a mass claim really, but dont say "oh, just ask everyone to do it, I'm not stopping you" when you have been fighting it the whole way. Side note: I love how much scum hunting ace isn't doing this game, very reminiscent of insane, where he was scum. Everyone should keep this in mind. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
beneather Kenpachi Nemesis bumatlarge drag_ ghrur zerroth Chezinu list of inactives. Hopefully a few of them will get modkilled when day ends and some land opens up. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Every time a policy of what we should do has come up I've been involved. Whether you agree with it or not you can't say I haven't been actively promoting discussion. | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On November 20 2010 01:30 Ace wrote: ok jcarl who IS scumhunting then if I'm not. Every time a policy of what we should do has come up I've been involved. Whether you agree with it or not you can't say I haven't been actively promoting discussion. Well, I wouldn't use the word promoting. Being involved in a discussion is not the same thing as actively looking for mafia. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 20 2010 01:30 Ace wrote: ok jcarl who IS scumhunting then if I'm not. Every time a policy of what we should do has come up I've been involved. Whether you agree with it or not you can't say I haven't been actively promoting discussion. I didn't say you weren't generating disussion, you are and it's appreciated. However, don't say "go ahead no ones in your way" when you have argued it all along. A bit hypocritical. | ||
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