• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:09
CEST 06:09
KST 13:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 559 users

Insane Mafia - Page 8

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 35 Next All
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:29 GMT
#662
On October 30 2010 11:25 Pandain wrote:
Me:
Show nested quote +
I've already said mayors should obviously be involved in town circles

Dr: H

Show nested quote +
You also just said it could be very useful for the mayor to be in such a circle and now you say "what use is the circle at all!"



Dr: H(previous)
Show nested quote +
You never implied I was operating solely in secret? You can't bury your very obvious statements Pandain, no matter how bad you want to diffuse this argument.

Dr. H(after)
Show nested quote +
You did not say I was solely operating in secret


I want DTS checking Dr. H, at the very least if he's mafia it will force them to elect him godfather(which would probably be the best move anyway)


Good job pointing out nothing again Pandain.

I am saying you implied I was operating solely in secret. I quoted bolded and red'd the part where you implied that (to my interpretation). I never ever once said you literally used the same words. This is bad wordplay and it does nothing but discredit me for no reason

It seems like you are trying to say "the circle is a good thing and should be taken advantage of" and "the circle is a bad thing and should be feared" at the same time. Your rhetoric throughout the game seems to me to be emphasizing the latter.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:29 GMT
#663
On October 30 2010 11:28 Coagulation wrote:
dr h and pandain it would be nice if you guys could talk about something relevent to the town and disregard this little pissing contest you guys have going on right now.

it would be nice if you could do a single thing in this game besides insult other players and get really mad for no reason
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:31 GMT
#664
On October 30 2010 11:27 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:23 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


My role has two basic abilities:
-to confirm itself to another player at night. basically I can send a signal to another player once per night that confirms I am the role I say I am.
-to assist in stopping the spread of the plague. i will use this role to reliably coordinate the night actions of plague doctors and the results will show in the murrayitis counts.

Both of these actions can be proven, they have results that cannot be faked.

Secondly, (more like the hundred time I've said this and people don't listen)


So whats the name of your role, i'm curious

Does it matter?

It seems strange that you would want to know. I guess it would do no harm to tell, it wouldn't reveal the exact nature of my powers, which I won't go into extreme detail on just yet.

I'm not sure I should say. Maybe there is a role that knows all the roles in the game? And you're trying to confirm I am who I say I am?

Maybe this is some kinda weird mafia fishing attempt?

I'll think about it.



Sounds more like you just made shit up and can't think of a name that fits the description you gave.


Oh, I see.

The name of the role is Sticky. You can see earlier that I used the word sticky to try to see if Node had the same role as me.

As far as making it up, that would be the worst mafia play in the history of mafia. Again like I said (this is the millionth time now)

In order to fake this role I have to out a scumbuddy every single day, who has to lie, putting pressure on an increasing amount of mafia. I would also have to fake the second part of my role, which would be impossible to do since the results are objective and not able to be manipulated.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:37 GMT
#668
I can understand why people maybe don't want me to be mayor over fishball but trying to paint me as scum is ludicrous.

Let's say I am mafia.

I am faking a role in which I confirm my role to another player each night. To fake this I must get another mafia to pretend that I did this each day, who would probably be DT checked immediately throwing me under suspicion.

I don't want to say exactly how my second ability works but I can reliably show my powers in helping to stop the spread of the plague. Faking this would be much quicker. It would be incredibly easy to catch me in this lie and since the results of my actions are reflected in the murrayitis numbers and the success of plague doctors, it isn't really something I can pull off.

I am offering myself for lynch if the information I'm giving is found to be unreliable. So as mafia here, I'm sacrificing myself. my scumbuddies, and making claims that I cannot fulfill.

An utterly retarded thing to do. Not to mention the fact that being mayor barely benefits mafia in this case. The only real benefit is immunity to vig hits and the second vote.

In a normal mafia game, the mayor has 3 extra votes, complete immunity from night actions. A DT can check the mayor for godssake.

So for me to pull this off all of the following are true:
I am mafia
I am godfather
I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught
I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility.

Consider all of that for the benefit a mafia player would be going for:
extra vote
immunity to vigs

and also weight the con a mafia has from being mayor:
guaranteed DT visit
immense pressure/scrutiny from town

it really is nonsensical, added to the fact that I can prove my role is what I say it is after the night, there is really nothing here to paint me as scum. If it's made up bullshit, and thats what you believe, then I'm handing you my life and the lives of my scumbuddies on a plate.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:39 GMT
#670
On October 30 2010 11:35 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:27 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:23 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


My role has two basic abilities:
-to confirm itself to another player at night. basically I can send a signal to another player once per night that confirms I am the role I say I am.
-to assist in stopping the spread of the plague. i will use this role to reliably coordinate the night actions of plague doctors and the results will show in the murrayitis counts.

Both of these actions can be proven, they have results that cannot be faked.

Secondly, (more like the hundred time I've said this and people don't listen)


So whats the name of your role, i'm curious

Does it matter?

It seems strange that you would want to know. I guess it would do no harm to tell, it wouldn't reveal the exact nature of my powers, which I won't go into extreme detail on just yet.

I'm not sure I should say. Maybe there is a role that knows all the roles in the game? And you're trying to confirm I am who I say I am?

Maybe this is some kinda weird mafia fishing attempt?

I'll think about it.



Sounds more like you just made shit up and can't think of a name that fits the description you gave.


Oh, I see.

The name of the role is Sticky. You can see earlier that I used the word sticky to try to see if Node had the same role as me.

As far as making it up, that would be the worst mafia play in the history of mafia. Again like I said (this is the millionth time now)

In order to fake this role I have to out a scumbuddy every single day, who has to lie, putting pressure on an increasing amount of mafia. I would also have to fake the second part of my role, which would be impossible to do since the results are objective and not able to be manipulated.

Show nested quote +
To DrH: If you are mafia and your role is similar to what you say it is, it could just be instead of you being able to "confirm your role as a townie" to other people it could be "fake your role as a townie" to other people. You don't need to out other mafias to do that.

Looks like my post is just being jumped over You don't necessarily to have made up the entire role, but it could work just as you said but instead favor the mafia instead of town. Like a mafia role that can "confirm he's town through other people"


This would be a good point if it weren't for the fact that my role has a second ability which is designed to hurt mafia which I can also prove I have over the course of the game. In fact my main concern when I thought "how will mafia attempt to discredit me" was that they would say it was a mafia role in the first place

when i fully roleclaim and prove my role is what it is you will all see that is ludicrous
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:41 GMT
#673
On October 30 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:25 Pandain wrote:
Me:
I've already said mayors should obviously be involved in town circles

Dr: H

You also just said it could be very useful for the mayor to be in such a circle and now you say "what use is the circle at all!"



Dr: H(previous)
You never implied I was operating solely in secret? You can't bury your very obvious statements Pandain, no matter how bad you want to diffuse this argument.

Dr. H(after)
You did not say I was solely operating in secret


I want DTS checking Dr. H, at the very least if he's mafia it will force them to elect him godfather(which would probably be the best move anyway)


Good job pointing out nothing again Pandain.

I am saying you implied I was operating solely in secret. I quoted bolded and red'd the part where you implied that (to my interpretation). I never ever once said you literally used the same words. This is bad wordplay and it does nothing but discredit me for no reason

It seems like you are trying to say "the circle is a good thing and should be taken advantage of" and "the circle is a bad thing and should be feared" at the same time. Your rhetoric throughout the game seems to me to be emphasizing the latter.



In case you are arguing because you are confused by what I mean, since it seems you are wholly misinterpeting and twisting my words, I will explain

Yes,the circle is a good thing. It is an incredible asset to town and should be used wisely. However, it is also to be feared. A circle is not a group of confirmed townies, in this game it is merely a group of people who can pm(since only Dr. H would be confirmed.)

Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well. But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. I know your very expierenced and beast as mafia but as of now your arguments just don't have substance. Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. Pms and town circles in this game imo should only be used for stuff a blue can't say in thread or risk being killed(aka dt checks and finds scum.) Besides that, it is wholly unconfirmed.


OK, so you don't think it's useless. KK

"Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well."

Nope, my role has a second ability which can be used to coordinate blue action and stop the plague. That helps the town immensely.

" But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. "
As opposed to a non existent third option?

"Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. "
You're doing the same thing NB is doing. You're basically saying "Dr.H is no good as a townie" when I have never been a townie in the past. So I assume you are basing that in my scumhunting in this game and I can't say I agree. Mind telling me what targets are better?

" And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. "

I believe the same thing about myself.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:42 GMT
#674
On October 30 2010 11:41 annul wrote:
doctorh

does your role have ANY harmful powers? as in, can you use it to kill someone (vig/spread murrayitis)? or is it purely a beneficial power?

i mean the role called "sticky" makes me think you can kill somebody


No, it can't be used to hurt anybody. It is a role that involves information and indirect communication.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:43 GMT
#675
On October 30 2010 11:40 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Also, it'd be great if we could get a few more people on the replacement list. If you're following the game and want to be on it, please PM me.


I dont know why anyone in their right fucking mind following this shit storm would want to join in.
[/b][/blue][/u]
You could contribute instead of complaining about the thread and everyone else in it, you know.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:48 GMT
#679
On October 30 2010 11:46 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:25 Pandain wrote:
Me:
I've already said mayors should obviously be involved in town circles

Dr: H

You also just said it could be very useful for the mayor to be in such a circle and now you say "what use is the circle at all!"



Dr: H(previous)
You never implied I was operating solely in secret? You can't bury your very obvious statements Pandain, no matter how bad you want to diffuse this argument.

Dr. H(after)
You did not say I was solely operating in secret


I want DTS checking Dr. H, at the very least if he's mafia it will force them to elect him godfather(which would probably be the best move anyway)


Good job pointing out nothing again Pandain.

I am saying you implied I was operating solely in secret. I quoted bolded and red'd the part where you implied that (to my interpretation). I never ever once said you literally used the same words. This is bad wordplay and it does nothing but discredit me for no reason

It seems like you are trying to say "the circle is a good thing and should be taken advantage of" and "the circle is a bad thing and should be feared" at the same time. Your rhetoric throughout the game seems to me to be emphasizing the latter.



In case you are arguing because you are confused by what I mean, since it seems you are wholly misinterpeting and twisting my words, I will explain

Yes,the circle is a good thing. It is an incredible asset to town and should be used wisely. However, it is also to be feared. A circle is not a group of confirmed townies, in this game it is merely a group of people who can pm(since only Dr. H would be confirmed.)

Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well. But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. I know your very expierenced and beast as mafia but as of now your arguments just don't have substance. Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. Pms and town circles in this game imo should only be used for stuff a blue can't say in thread or risk being killed(aka dt checks and finds scum.) Besides that, it is wholly unconfirmed.


OK, so you don't think it's useless. KK

"Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well."

Nope, my role has a second ability which can be used to coordinate blue action and stop the plague. That helps the town immensely.
But do you need to be mayor? So this point is irrelevant
" But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. "
As opposed to a non existent third option?
Ya, theres no third party, I've explained why earlier
"Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. "
You're doing the same thing NB is doing. You're basically saying "Dr.H is no good as a townie" when I have never been a townie in the past. So I assume you are basing that in my scumhunting in this game and I can't say I agree. Mind telling me what targets are better?
I don't know if your no good as townie. I do know that I'm not mafia(lol what good is saying that though :p) so your off there. I'll post analysis tommorow on people. Hopefuly we get more posts by then.

" And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. "
Do it.
I believe the same thing about myself.



How is it irrelevant that I can help the town immensely as mayor? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard : /

So you criticize my townie play, without knowing that i'm bad or good at townie. ok
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 02:54 GMT
#683
On October 30 2010 11:52 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:46 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:25 Pandain wrote:
Me:
I've already said mayors should obviously be involved in town circles

Dr: H

You also just said it could be very useful for the mayor to be in such a circle and now you say "what use is the circle at all!"



Dr: H(previous)
You never implied I was operating solely in secret? You can't bury your very obvious statements Pandain, no matter how bad you want to diffuse this argument.

Dr. H(after)
You did not say I was solely operating in secret


I want DTS checking Dr. H, at the very least if he's mafia it will force them to elect him godfather(which would probably be the best move anyway)


Good job pointing out nothing again Pandain.

I am saying you implied I was operating solely in secret. I quoted bolded and red'd the part where you implied that (to my interpretation). I never ever once said you literally used the same words. This is bad wordplay and it does nothing but discredit me for no reason

It seems like you are trying to say "the circle is a good thing and should be taken advantage of" and "the circle is a bad thing and should be feared" at the same time. Your rhetoric throughout the game seems to me to be emphasizing the latter.



In case you are arguing because you are confused by what I mean, since it seems you are wholly misinterpeting and twisting my words, I will explain

Yes,the circle is a good thing. It is an incredible asset to town and should be used wisely. However, it is also to be feared. A circle is not a group of confirmed townies, in this game it is merely a group of people who can pm(since only Dr. H would be confirmed.)

Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well. But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. I know your very expierenced and beast as mafia but as of now your arguments just don't have substance. Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. Pms and town circles in this game imo should only be used for stuff a blue can't say in thread or risk being killed(aka dt checks and finds scum.) Besides that, it is wholly unconfirmed.


OK, so you don't think it's useless. KK

"Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well."

Nope, my role has a second ability which can be used to coordinate blue action and stop the plague. That helps the town immensely.
But do you need to be mayor? So this point is irrelevant
" But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. "
As opposed to a non existent third option?
Ya, theres no third party, I've explained why earlier
"Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. "
You're doing the same thing NB is doing. You're basically saying "Dr.H is no good as a townie" when I have never been a townie in the past. So I assume you are basing that in my scumhunting in this game and I can't say I agree. Mind telling me what targets are better?
I don't know if your no good as townie. I do know that I'm not mafia(lol what good is saying that though :p) so your off there. I'll post analysis tommorow on people. Hopefuly we get more posts by then.

" And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. "
Do it.
I believe the same thing about myself.



How is it irrelevant that I can help the town immensely as mayor? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard : /

So you criticize my townie play, without knowing that i'm bad or good at townie. ok


Its irrelevant being mayor. Please, read my post. I clearly say "but do you need to be mayor? THEREFORE, the point is irrelevant" regarding the election.

And I don't make a final judgement on your play, whether townie or mafia, but your arguments against me are poor, and rightly so given I have done no wrong. If I have, point it out, and see I have done nothing malicious.


No it's not irrelevant because my being mayor greatly improves my ability to help the town out.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 03:00 GMT
#686
On October 30 2010 11:59 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:52 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:46 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:25 Pandain wrote:
Me:
I've already said mayors should obviously be involved in town circles

Dr: H

You also just said it could be very useful for the mayor to be in such a circle and now you say "what use is the circle at all!"



Dr: H(previous)
You never implied I was operating solely in secret? You can't bury your very obvious statements Pandain, no matter how bad you want to diffuse this argument.

Dr. H(after)
You did not say I was solely operating in secret


I want DTS checking Dr. H, at the very least if he's mafia it will force them to elect him godfather(which would probably be the best move anyway)


Good job pointing out nothing again Pandain.

I am saying you implied I was operating solely in secret. I quoted bolded and red'd the part where you implied that (to my interpretation). I never ever once said you literally used the same words. This is bad wordplay and it does nothing but discredit me for no reason

It seems like you are trying to say "the circle is a good thing and should be taken advantage of" and "the circle is a bad thing and should be feared" at the same time. Your rhetoric throughout the game seems to me to be emphasizing the latter.



In case you are arguing because you are confused by what I mean, since it seems you are wholly misinterpeting and twisting my words, I will explain

Yes,the circle is a good thing. It is an incredible asset to town and should be used wisely. However, it is also to be feared. A circle is not a group of confirmed townies, in this game it is merely a group of people who can pm(since only Dr. H would be confirmed.)

Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well. But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. I know your very expierenced and beast as mafia but as of now your arguments just don't have substance. Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. Pms and town circles in this game imo should only be used for stuff a blue can't say in thread or risk being killed(aka dt checks and finds scum.) Besides that, it is wholly unconfirmed.


OK, so you don't think it's useless. KK

"Alright, so great, you become mayor, and the only thing that happens is you become confirmed. I can confirm myself as well."

Nope, my role has a second ability which can be used to coordinate blue action and stop the plague. That helps the town immensely.
But do you need to be mayor? So this point is irrelevant
" But as it stands, either you are mafia again or this is your first time as townie. "
As opposed to a non existent third option?
Ya, theres no third party, I've explained why earlier
"Your scum hunting just isn't on radar. "
You're doing the same thing NB is doing. You're basically saying "Dr.H is no good as a townie" when I have never been a townie in the past. So I assume you are basing that in my scumhunting in this game and I can't say I agree. Mind telling me what targets are better?
I don't know if your no good as townie. I do know that I'm not mafia(lol what good is saying that though :p) so your off there. I'll post analysis tommorow on people. Hopefuly we get more posts by then.

" And that's why I'm running for mayor, because I believe I can contribute really good analysis that everyone can discuss, and I will help make a final decision. "
Do it.
I believe the same thing about myself.



How is it irrelevant that I can help the town immensely as mayor? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard : /

So you criticize my townie play, without knowing that i'm bad or good at townie. ok


Its irrelevant being mayor. Please, read my post. I clearly say "but do you need to be mayor? THEREFORE, the point is irrelevant" regarding the election.

And I don't make a final judgement on your play, whether townie or mafia, but your arguments against me are poor, and rightly so given I have done no wrong. If I have, point it out, and see I have done nothing malicious.


No it's not irrelevant because my being mayor greatly improves my ability to help the town out.


How. Does your role say "if mayor my powers increase 10x"

does yours?

obviously immunity at night would improve my ability to coordinate in the open, don't be stupid
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 03:09 GMT
#691
On October 30 2010 12:05 Fishball wrote:
To be honest, I do think all this debating is getting quite stupid and going in circles.
Most of my replies have been mentioned before and it's just repeat and repeat.

Agreed.

I think it would be a good idea for all mayoral candidates to restate their platform without attacking anybody else. It might clarify a lot of things and it would give everyone a chance to say exactly what they mean without it being twisted by mafia discreditors
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 03:14 GMT
#694
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3

you're my number one suspect so not me lol
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 03:34 GMT
#709
My platform or why I'm running for mayor


Simply,I have a role which can do two things: confirm itself to another player at night and help to stop the spread of murrayitis. The first ability will confirm I am who I say I am to the town, if used correctly, and the second will limit the mafia from using the plague to achieve their win condition. I will not allow poor bandwagons and mafia manipulation to influence my decisions and I offer coordination powers that are uncorruptable.

So why is it important that you're mayor?



I can't coordinate blues and plague doctors if I'm dead. It's also very beneficial to the town to have a mayor that can confirm himself as blue, doubly so if he can be inducted into a town circle. After I am confirmed to be not mafia and am immune to night kills, by being inducted into the circle I can do two things:

1. coordinate blues in the circle further and use myself as a mouthpiece for their communication in the thread.
2. keep an eye on suspicious activity within the circle and relay this information to the town.

If I'm not inducted into the circle, I can still easily coordinate doctor action within the thread itself.


How can I be sure you are town?



+ Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2010 11:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can understand why people maybe don't want me to be mayor over fishball but trying to paint me as scum is ludicrous.

Let's say I am mafia.

I am faking a role in which I confirm my role to another player each night. To fake this I must get another mafia to pretend that I did this each day, who would probably be DT checked immediately throwing me under suspicion.

I don't want to say exactly how my second ability works but I can reliably show my powers in helping to stop the spread of the plague. Faking this would be much quicker. It would be incredibly easy to catch me in this lie and since the results of my actions are reflected in the murrayitis numbers and the success of plague doctors, it isn't really something I can pull off.

I am offering myself for lynch if the information I'm giving is found to be unreliable. So as mafia here, I'm sacrificing myself. my scumbuddies, and making claims that I cannot fulfill.

An utterly retarded thing to do. Not to mention the fact that being mayor barely benefits mafia in this case. The only real benefit is immunity to vig hits and the second vote.

In a normal mafia game, the mayor has 3 extra votes, complete immunity from night actions. A DT can check the mayor for godssake.

So for me to pull this off all of the following are true:
I am mafia
I am godfather
I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught
I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility.

Consider all of that for the benefit a mafia player would be going for:
extra vote
immunity to vigs

and also weight the con a mafia has from being mayor:
guaranteed DT visit
immense pressure/scrutiny from town

it really is nonsensical, added to the fact that I can prove my role is what I say it is after the night, there is really nothing here to paint me as scum. If it's made up bullshit, and thats what you believe, then I'm handing you my life and the lives of my scumbuddies on a plate.



I'm not a good neighbor. I can not be confirmed by Artanis to be town aligned. However it's as simple as this:
1. I can show my power to the town that is consistent with the role I claimed
2. The nature of the role itself is one that is expressly anti-mafia which can also be demonstrated.


Ok. What do you offer aside from your role? I don't like the idea of someone campaigning on their role alone.


Independence. A lot of mayors talk about how they're "with the town" and "they'll act for the town" and things like this. This is the opposite of what the mayor should do. With a mayor who is confirmed to be town aligned, acting independently is important to avoid the prevalence of mafia bandwagons.

Mafia have the full voting power of their membership. If they are able to manipulate the mayor as well, they can add an additional 2 votes to their poor bandwagon. Having a mayor who doesn't take things at face value and get manipulated by mafia bandwagons is very important.

2 people have already criticized my scumhunting as being bad (even though I've never been townie before so they can't really base it on anything) but I can tell you it isn't. I've been mafia every single game I've been in and I know how the play. I've been a scum mayor before and I know how they play and what they do. I know what gets under the mafias skin.

I have a plan for going about scumhunting and it isn't always obvious. But it's something I'm doing constantly and when I feel I'm ready to lay down the hammer of justice, I will. And I will always provide the utmost amount of reason and logic to everything I do. None of my actions will go unexplained, at the end of the day.

So that's why I'm running and that's why I feel you should vote for me. Choose wisely town :3
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 03:35 GMT
#710
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 03:37 GMT
#711
On October 30 2010 12:25 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3


I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!

are you implying the fact that you are a mafia so you can only be killed by lynching and if you become mayor you cant be lynched?

@DrH: where is the love bro <3 .... no im joking, what can i do to make you trust me? :-j (this feels exactly like last game.....)


why would he imply that? that's pretty dumb.

You could not post like scum for starters
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 03:56 GMT
#716
On October 30 2010 12:54 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic


What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well!

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can!


We'll see about that!

Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010!

My understanding of the bodyguard is that if the mayor is hit, the bodyguard doesn't die, but that the bodyguard must be killed before the mayor can
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 04:08 GMT
#722
thanks
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 04:10 GMT
#724
On October 30 2010 13:09 Glasse wrote:
Still though, glasse is the best choice, considering there are no good voting choices

would you like to back up that statement or is this thread your toilet at this point
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 30 2010 04:14 GMT
#727
On October 30 2010 13:12 Glasse wrote:
Just stating, in a weird way, that you have no credibility to me.

ok would you like to back that statement up or are you just going to keep saying meaningless nonsense
RIP Aaliyah
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 51m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 290
RuFF_SC2 155
NeuroSwarm 152
StarCraft: Brood War
MaD[AoV]117
Sharp 57
Sexy 50
JulyZerg 29
Nal_rA 16
ivOry 6
Icarus 5
ggaemo 1
Dota 2
monkeys_forever446
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 188
Other Games
summit1g10598
shahzam878
JimRising 493
C9.Mang0206
ViBE182
Livibee133
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV31
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH234
• Hupsaiya 58
• davetesta47
• practicex 25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo802
• Stunt344
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
11h 51m
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
22h 51m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 5h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 7h
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 11h
Online Event
1d 13h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.