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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 04:17 GMT
#78
We only get 36 hours for daytime? I thought it was 48?

Also, first?! ;D
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 04:18 GMT
#80
damn it, not first.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 04:28 GMT
#97
this ought to be at least an hour more to wait.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 04:30 GMT
#100
also, i do not agree with jcarlsoniv. if you have something to say, say it. more information is not a bad thing, and telling people to stop talking is a good way to give cover for mafia.

perhaps playing on the forums is fundamentally different from playing over IRC, but you can often find gems of information from the shortest of seemingly irrelevant sentences.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 04:45 GMT
#108
by 12:00 PM do you mean noon or do you mean midnight wednesday morning (12:01 AM, simplified)?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 05:19 GMT
#146
i think the trick is to compare the differences between the first day 1 post and the second day 1 post. whatever is changed has to be the clue.

i really do not know what is different about qatol's death though, it seems 100% unchanged.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 05:23 GMT
#154
yes, precisely. so what i am saying is, if there are things that are the same in the two day 1 posts, they must not be where the clues were hidden. the exact same script minus like one sentence is used in some of these kills. that must be the clue.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 05:29 GMT
#158
the only death that is identical is qatal's -- every other death has been changed.

so MAYBE the RNG gave the same role to the same person that was to kill qatal; it is possible. then he wouldn't have to change anything. but the person who has the role to kill meeple, for example, is new, so the clue now changes. previously, it was not someone for whom "the wind spoke" or whatever.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 05:38 GMT
#168
of all the info we have right now, masq's profile is probably the strongest indictment yet.

i wonder if it is smarter for us to kill masq with our town vote or to let the mafia/vampires (whichever side masq isnt) take him out with one of their night kills. saves 1 kill from the town and it is not like the mafia/vampires won't kill him, since they need him dead to win too.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 05:43 GMT
#176
halo is a song by beyonce
beyonce used to be in destiny's child
destiny's child had a song named survivor
survivor is a television show that features hidden immunity idols
korynne's killer was hidden in her car
GG HE KILLED KORYNNE NO RE
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 19:02 GMT
#404
I have voted Veldril.

I think that if it is clearly obvious Masq is mafia or vampire (which it is, tbh), then the other team will have to waste 1 night kill on him, and that leaves more living townies. They may not pull the trigger on Veldril, though, and so we should [strike]nat-to-nat siege tank his gas[/strike] wtfpwn him as such.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 19:02 GMT
#405
ebwop: apparently you cannot use strike on this board. oh well.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 19:42 GMT
#426
FYI masq is not the jack o lantern

the mod said that clues do not point to ROLES only to things in peoples profiles and shit

so the jack of lantern picture and the jack o lantern clue does not mean he is the jack o lantern role
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 19:48 GMT
#429
yes, that is what i meant.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 11 2010 22:06 GMT
#488
On October 12 2010 04:45 orgolove wrote:
and other masq defenders:

lankill - fervently defended masq, then very defensive when he was accused


i cannot find a single post by lankill in this thread =\
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 12 2010 00:36 GMT
#592
if the fact he is a dt is a clue then i wonder where the missile turret is or anything that would let him see him coming in to shank him :B :B
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 12 2010 02:03 GMT
#626
pretty sure the brute bypasses the ghost and kills everybody in the room (including ghost and brute) anyway

so if the brute comes for you at night you are going to die no matter what, unless you are the frankenstein

though, i wonder if the boogeyman/invisible man also die to the brute? their role implies that they remain unseen/stealthed, and i doubt a bloodlusting vampire would detect a random guy in the closet etc
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 12 2010 05:32 GMT
#691
fyi, in that spreadsheet, you say i "defended lankill"

no i didnt. i said that lankill could not have possibly supported anybody when he hasn't even made one post in this entire game.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 12 2010 05:34 GMT
#696
in fact, YOU made up the fact that lankill was for masq, which was a blatant lie.

so i wonder if i am wrong in voting vendril, to be quite honest it is you i have caught in (now two) lies.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 12 2010 05:35 GMT
#700
by "YOU" i mean orgo
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 12 2010 05:42 GMT
#713
if more would join, i would be fine switching to orgo. i get bad feelings from that guy.

i DO think vendril and masq are reds though (by way of night 0 clues), but i imagine that the mafia/vamps will use night kills on them anyway. let's get rid of orgo now.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 12 2010 05:48 GMT
#726
know what else is a no content one liner? favre's box score tonight

ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 00:07 GMT
#879
masq is scum

veldril is scum

the entire debate is whether it is smarter to vote veldril or masq tonight. who is more dangerous to keep alive.

most who view it like this will say veldril.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 00:11 GMT
#882
you STILL haven't changed that spreadsheet. wow.

once again, i never "defended lankill" beyond saying to you that YOU fucked up in calling him out on things when he still hasn't made a single post in the game.

if orgo is this loose with his spreadsheet after being called out on his inconsistencies like 12 hours ago (including this specific one), then i do not know how useful it is at all for anyone.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 00:18 GMT
#885
i never defended lankill. hence, you are lying in the spreadsheet.

i attacked you for lying. there is a big difference.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 00:26 GMT
#889
you are not going to fix blatant lies? grats, well done, your input is worthless.

and pandain: masq is scum because of the clue on night 0. how this is even a point of contention is beyond me. veldril is scum due to his actions in this thread all game. in fact, veldril himself is BLATANTLY referred to by the night 0 clue. the fate stay night quote, "unlimited blade works" is, to me, just as obvious as masq's pear jack o lantern night 0 clue.

so from this i can safely say they are both scum

now the question once again is who is more dangerous to leave alive on day 1 town vote. i think that is veldril.

THOUGH, that said, IF the town is smart, they kill neither of these two, but it does not seem to be trending that way and if we are gonna take out one of them, take out the active one.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 03:00 GMT
#980
no, i will just call you retarded for being french canadian

ZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 06:16 GMT
#1257
On October 13 2010 15:10 Bill Murray wrote:
I already know 2 dts


cool grats on fucking the game

now confirmed at least 2 dts in the game
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 19:59 GMT
#1315
ahem, i asked that question much earlier and got no credit for it =P
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 13 2010 21:54 GMT
#1321
lol i love how your only reaction to me was -.-

nothing i said re: masq was untrue =P
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 01:19 GMT
#1353
wait so pandain, who claimed frankenstein, is now claiming dt or boogey or whatever?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 01:30 GMT
#1369
BM sent me a PM too,

good move as town
i believe youre town

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
my gut instinct so far is top 3: veldril, masq, orgolove.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Bill Murray:
who are your top suspects?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 01:42 GMT
#1377
wait, aztorisk claimed? i forgot and/or missed this

what did he claim?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 01:47 GMT
#1384
oh wow lol, i completely missed that

are you one of the JOLs that supposedly claimed to BM etc?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 04:18 GMT
#1464
F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 04:40 GMT
#1504
wow.

don't forget that if the vampires used the poisoner, it wouldn't show up today either.

so it could have been a ghost or it could have been a frankenstein or it could have been a poison kill. not necessarily true it was 2 ghosts
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 04:56 GMT
#1512
i like the obvious kpyolysis32 kill too, but i would say that going for veldril or orgolove is also not a bad move. i caught orgo in multiple lies on day 1, remember.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 17:14 GMT
#1604
On October 15 2010 00:41 BrownBear wrote:
I don't think anyone has claimed yet, but it's something y'all should remember.




aaaaaaand



On October 14 2010 14:20 orgolove wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 14:13 aztrorisk wrote:
BTW, I would like to give a shoutout to the ghost that saved me (if any)


In fact, the ghost did -not- save you. And none of the reds attacked you. Quit your posing.



i think orgo is claiming either ghost (maybe boogeyman and that aztrorisk is a frankenstein?) or that he got saved himself
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 14 2010 21:08 GMT
#1628
ps join #tlmafia for IRC mafia games, join and idle in it i hope to start games up when we get a nice base of people

IRC games are live chat and usually take from like 30 minutes to ~2 hours depending on how things go (for a 9 player game)
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 15 2010 00:09 GMT
#1643
that was for #hauntedmafia which was a GAME irc channel for game discussion -- not what i created, which is a channel to run irc based games, 100% unrelated to any forum games
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 15 2010 04:03 GMT
#1665
On October 15 2010 10:10 Pandain wrote:
Obviously its a pun on annul(anal), since it came from the restroom. That's the bad smell.


zzzzzzzzz


its obviously a pun on p and ain, or p (and) ain, or pain. pain in the restroom does often smell bad, hence VOTE PANDAIN GOGOGO

yum yum
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 15 2010 18:49 GMT
#1687
here is the thing

i do not like all these people saying "we have problems if he is a vamp" or somehow implying its bad for him to go if he is a vamp

the mafia already lost 1 person. this means that, in order for mafia to win AND town to not win, somehow, over the course of the entire game, mafia has to suffer no more than four further kills. the only possible way for mafia to win is if 11 vampires are dead. as soon as five mafia go away, then neither side can win (once vamps go down 5 too) without the town also winning, provided the town's numbers stay up.

and remember if there are 61 players and 16 red die, then you have 6 living reds and the town would need 7 living greens/blues. 13 total players. we are nowhere near the point where we have 7 town players left.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 15 2010 19:54 GMT
#1692
On October 16 2010 04:47 Nemesis wrote:
No actually town needs to kil at least 8 vampires and 8 mafia, not 4 of each.


uh yeah, if you bothered to read what i had to say you would see that i am not talking about town's win condition on its own, i am talking about the fact that mafia CANNOT win without the town winning once we kill 4 more of them and we have more than 13 total players
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 15 2010 20:09 GMT
#1695
with 11 mafia and 11 vampires, in order for mafia to win, they need to get vampires down to 0

if mafia gets vampires down to 0 with no losses, then that means 12 total red killed. in order for town to win, then, we need to kill 4 more mafia before that happens.

so what i am saying is, everyone who says that it is bad to kill another vampire should be looked at closely, because with all the blue roles and the like, what are the odds that we do not kill 4 mafia before they manage to take out 8 vampires? not to mention as the game progresses if vampires get really low then all the clues will continue to be mafia clues, and the game balances out anyway
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 15 2010 20:26 GMT
#1703
On October 16 2010 05:13 BrownBear wrote:
See, but this number 12 doesn't mean anything. You just pulled it out of your ass.

Nowhere in the OP does it say 12 scumkills = victory.


we have 1 dead mafia right now.

if all vampires die and no more mafia die, then mafia wins and 12 red are dead.

so yes, under current scenario, 12 scum kills (assuming mafia wins out from here) is a mafia victory

what i am also saying is that as soon as 5 on each side are dead, NEITHER side can win alone until town has less than 7 left. there can be a double win, but in a double win we still win
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 16 2010 23:51 GMT
#1951
i figured it out

he says conf[i]rmed killers are: pandain

i figure he fucked up in the code with "conformed" instead of confirmed, but this is what it says

i wonder how he "conformed" pandain to be a killer as a JOL, or what "killer" even means - scum? grim reaper?

i hear cryptograms are hard to decode, confirm/deny
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 16 2010 23:53 GMT
#1952
also, if you wanted to send one specific person a message, why not just send them an unencoded one to be revealed at death? it makes me think you wanted us to see that for some reason, since it really is not hard to decrypt code
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 02:00 GMT
#2022
player above me: glasse
analysis: LOL FRENCH CANADIAN

;D
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 06:55 GMT
#2104
i am voting lucktar for the very obvious, almost masq-like clue-to-profile similarity.

i am not defending jodo, mind you, just that i think that obvious clues > suspicion at this point.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 07:49 GMT
#2112
pandain was green, he was not DT

pandain was under FoS the entire game pretty much

why would a DT claim to pandain?

i mean i dont really care either way, if hes red then good for us, really. i am not so sure that believing pandain is a good move here with no actual DT proof. some red could very easily have told pandain "hey i am a DT go lynch jodo"

fyi not defending jodo per se, just questioning the logic used, cuz i dont get it
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 20:31 GMT
#2150
On October 17 2010 16:49 annul wrote:
i am not so sure that believing pandain is a good move here with no actual DT proof. some red could very easily have told pandain "hey i am a DT go lynch jodo"



On October 17 2010 17:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Jodogohoo the Grim Reaper has been modkilled.



CALLED IT

is anyone going to believe me now when i say shit? you all gotta use your brains, the logic was not there.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 20:44 GMT
#2151
PS, in defense of ghrur's analysis of me:

"God damnit, this is wtf. he NEVER posted a code with this, and seems to just be bullshitting."

yes he did - he posted a cryptogram and when solved, it came out to "conformed killers are: pandain"

check the thread again, it is there


and

"Wtf? This goes against what he said earlier about analyzing posts! This also goes against his vote as he NEVER voted for Masq, despite him saying that it's very obvious now. Why? Also, why would he vote for someone of Masq's clue-like-similarity when he never voted for Masq in the first place? I don't get it."

i voted for veldril for reasons i explained above, which you quoted. i was wrong =\ but the reasons were there. his profile also had a quote from fate stay night, the "unlimited blade works" invocation -- which fit a clue pretty well too. or so i thought. so while masq's clue was the most obvious, i thought veldril had a nice one too, _and_ i thought getting him out early was better.






lastly, i defend myself if people make claims that i disagree with. especially if people make claims that i believe to be lies. this isnt a red thing, this is an annul thing. green blue black or red, i defend myself against things like that.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 20:57 GMT
#2152
On October 18 2010 04:02 Glasse wrote:
Real quick, when i watched pandain last night it said that he left and never came back.


this makes no sense

why would he leave if he was a straight up green? he has no night power to leave with and he is not mafia/vampire to go out and kill someone with?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 21:40 GMT
#2154
On October 18 2010 06:28 Lucktar wrote:
Sorry for being out of the thread for a while, but... what? I'm not even sure what clues you're referring to. Are you talking about Hyperbola's stuff? I'm confus.



this:


On October 17 2010 13:34 Hyperbola wrote:
Pandain finally ducked under a brush, feeling safe. He said a prayer to himself and tried his best to be quiet. Quiet wasn't enough. There was a blindingly quick kick to his head, knocking him on his back and knocking him out cold. The small man sat on Pandain's back, driving his face deep into the mud. Pandain was brutally slain by the two, torn limb from limb. The town would find his body parts separated and left in neat rows of eight, covered in blood and mud.
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Could be a coincidence of elements but it's worth noting nonetheless.

annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 21:57 GMT
#2156
because nobody was voting for lucktar anyway? why should i make a lone vote that got no traction?

i weighed my options between artanis and heavonearth and i chose artanis. otherwise my vote is irrelevant

also, my code was correct. in cryptograms it is self-explanatory which letters decode to what, because you can just reverse solve it and see. so, every "o" in "conformed killers are: pandain" is the same symbol in aztro's original encrypted code, every "a" is the same symbol, every "i" is the same symbol, etc. if you bother to take the time out to do this, you will see my solution is not wrong.

i would love to see an alternate solution for aztro's original code that fits as well as mine did. i do not need to post my own decoding key because it is self-evident from my solution itself.

whether aztro questions my reasoning or not, this does not change the fact my solution was correct.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 18 2010 20:05 GMT
#2186
can you put that in the OP or in the 2nd post too (if its not there already)
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 18 2010 21:54 GMT
#2197
i hear reposting the same thing with no further analysis is not spam at all, really.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 01:22 GMT
#2203
HEY D00DS fyi as an aside,

/join #tlmafia

we got 5 there we'd need 5 more for some IRC mafia tonight ;D
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 01:57 GMT
#2205
OK hi people

its time to break this game wide open

i am tired of seeing town being dumb and not working together

i am claiming jack o lantern. i am also claiming that i know at least two other confirmed blues and a couple of ideas as to who else might be blue. i am NOT a detective, but one of my confirmed blues IS.

i will not say where my bombs are, but you should probably imagine they're on reds, because i am not dumb. i will also say that every action i have taken so far in this game has been to survive to a point where i can get into a circle... or start one, as i now am doing. people ive been suspicious of, etc... may or may not be who i actually am suspicious of.

(my DT is confirmed because he checked me night 2 and found my role, PMed me with it, and as it came out of nowhere i cant believe he was rolefishing).

so this is what i want to do. i want someone to volunteer to be checked. i will have my DT check you tonight. i will then tell you what the DT sees, and this will prove to you that we have the blues we say we have in the circle. PLEASE DO NOT ASK TO BE CHECKED IF YOU ARE A STRAIGHT UP GREEN. this does not help us. if you are a blue and you want a way to confirm with other blues and start actually playing this game, then you need to get this game started and you need to PM me.

again, DO NOT tell me what specific role you have, only that you are a blue and you want to be checked.

mafia and vampires should leave us alone, since their job is to kill the other, not us.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 03:16 GMT
#2212
then we're fucked, lol

though i think there is a way around that too.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 03:22 GMT
#2214
ravens are small birds, fyi.

and it won't be suicide as i already have one blue who claimed to me in PM and will be checked.

when it is shown tomorrow that we are not lying, then you won't have to worry.

the DT i have randomly checked me night 2 and at dawn of day 3, messaged me with "hello, you're the JOL." i would reveal who it is but if one of us dies its better for it to be me than a DT.

give me one day, and you will have the formation of a town circle. if im lying, kill me tomorrow.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 03:32 GMT
#2215
ps

if any ghosts are out there, please defend me tonight. not sure if there is any better target for defense tonight anyway.

the reds really shouldnt be killing me anyway since its dumb for them to kill town, but you never know.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 03:36 GMT
#2217
well, i dont know what to tell you beyond what i already have

i have my claimed blue and my DT will be checking him tonight. if you fear me, then don't claim to me tonight. wait for tomorrow.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 04:15 GMT
#2221
holy shit
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 21:05 GMT
#2254
appoint me leader. i am already trying to be one. read up.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 19 2010 21:44 GMT
#2257
On October 20 2010 01:34 CubEdIn wrote:
I propose me as leader



On October 20 2010 06:30 CubEdIn wrote:
No thanks, I'm not listening to anyone. I'll post my opinions and listen to others, but I've seen where bandwaggoning gets you, so no thanks. Democracy ftw.



wat
annul
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October 19 2010 22:56 GMT
#2261
"CLEARLY SARCASM"

i love that defense

i read your entire post, i just filter the relevant information
annul
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October 20 2010 02:18 GMT
#2265
another advertisement:

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annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 04:02 GMT
#2273
holy fuck four JOLs
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 04:33 GMT
#2281
by the way, look at this:

5 dead vamps 4 dead mafia

if 3 more vampires and 4 more mafia die, then at this rate, we win.

7 more deaths to go for us. we have 20 of us remaining. so far, only 1 DT is known (to me, anyway), 1 ghost is known (hes dead), 1 boogeyman is known (to me), 1 boogeyman claimed (glasse), 0 frankensteins are known, 2 reapers are known (and dead), 0 mad scientists are known.

at least 4 JOLs are confirmed so far to have been in the game. if there are 4 of some role as powerful as the JOL, then we can probably imagine there will be high numbers of other roles too.

so my point is we are probably in a very strong position. probably a ton of blues who havent claimed (or who have breadcrumbed) and we should get on this thing

************************

as an aside, the blue who claimed to me in PM has been checked by my pocket DT and we have now sent him a PM telling him what we saw. when he confirms this, that he can trust us, we will get together and may reveal to the town who and what he is. then other blues can come out to us.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 04:49 GMT
#2283
the sad thing is glurio PMed me too to be DT checked.






From: glurio [ 19 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: Hey
Date: 10/19/10 11:56
Well if I die, which is likely, it just would make this game much crazier.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
will do. not sure you will though =(

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Original Message From glurio:
if I live tell him to check me.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 05:34 GMT
#2288
okay

the blue we checked was node. node has confirmed that what the DT saw was, in fact, correct. he is now a part of our town circle.

he doesn't want to reveal exactly what flavor of blue he is.

node should post soon confirming what i am saying here.

we need (at least~) one more blue to be checked. PM me please.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 06:40 GMT
#2294
reds are dumb to go after blues and not the other red team

if they waste kills on us, they only hurt themselves

so blues are okay to come out. the only blue flavors who should stfu (to the public, anyway) are the DTs and maybe the ghosts
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 09:28 GMT
#2299
scum only needs to kill the other scum team

scum doesnt need to kill blues to win the game
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 10:16 GMT
#2302
let them live because they can also uncover or kill the other red team too

50% guarantee kill on a win condition vs 100% kill on someone that may hurt you but, for the same reasons and using the same logic, may hurt the other team instead?

take the 50% easily
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 10:39 GMT
#2304
i wonder

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=spydR

maybe "silver instrument" may not be the clue, maybe it is just "instrument"?

ooooooor, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=HeavOnEarth for "break every bone in your face"?

also, dont forget about kenpachi for korynne's day 1 death

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kenpachi


lots of possibilities for hits today. don't let old clues go to waste either. town seems to focus a lot on recent clues and abandoning previous days. dont do that
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 12:44 GMT
#2307
ok bedtime for me
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 20 2010 22:09 GMT
#2317
On October 21 2010 03:39 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Annul is claiming that he knows things and has a DT. But even if the DT is legit, it's not guaranteed. How can you tell if someone is Dracula or not?.


because dracula doesnt actually inherit powers

my DT checked node, came back with his CORRECT role, and node confirmed it.

my DT couldve rolefished, but then he has like what a 1/7 chance to get it right and a 6/7 chance to die as dracula. my DT is real. we will confirm another one tonight and increase this presence.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 01:53 GMT
#2325
here is the thing with hittegods

his clue is fucking obvious. i dont see any other possibility for that baseball bat clue.

but what he has going for him is that he asked me in PMs to be DT checked BEFORE that clue came out. why would he do this if he was a red? wouldn't i just then find out he was a red?

so i am torn. its a giant WIFOM circle yeah but it does not make sense to me for him to request a DT check before knowing this obvious clue would be coming his way
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 01:54 GMT
#2326
From: Hittegods [ 3630 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: Holy Check!
Date: 10/19/10 12:42
Game makes me paranoid, don't trust anyone! But after re-reading the rules, it would make more sense for you to be town than scum.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
i only have one DT and we have our check target already.

but i wonder why you would be claiming blue to me now since you dont trust me =\

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Hittegods:
Check me then, good sir.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 01:56 GMT
#2327
and i am revealing his "secret" because it is looking more and more like he is going to be the obvious wagon, and if he is a blue, id rather we save him than kill him tonight
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 02:56 GMT
#2329
assuming hittegods dies, we still need a blue to DT check.

just like last time, if you want to get into the circle, PM me with the desire to be checked but DO NOT tell me what you are. then, when we check you and we message you and tell you what you are, you can know you can trust us.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 04:05 GMT
#2332
we dont

but only one person can be dracula so when we confirm a large number, we're still probably fine. i know my DT is definitely not dracula, since he confirmed my role to me in PM at the start of day 2 when he checked me. hell of a rolefish if he actually is dracula.

we have also decided that we have a rubric for who we are going to check to bring in, trying to weed out possible draculas

annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 05:13 GMT
#2335
ghrur, this is one of the reasons why i dont reveal who our targets are until weve made night actions and can confirm them. =)

i am fine with kenpachi kill, especially since i think he has a clue pointing to him from day 1

but i think lots of people will be on hittegods no matter what
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 05:26 GMT
#2337
artanis wasnt even in the game on day 1 kills so qatol's clue cant be on him
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 05:54 GMT
#2340
22 hours
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 06:43 GMT
#2343
alright

i am going to start this here

i also have a pocket mad scientist. he is not confirmed (as in, my DT did not check him) but i am inclined to believe him for now. i sent him a message asking if he would rather check hittegod's clue tonight and kill kenpachi now or if he would rather check kenpachi's clue tonight and kill hittegods now

he hasnt responded, but i am now voting kenpachi under the assumption he is going to agree with my logic. if he disagrees, then i will unvote onto hittegods, i guess. but i really dont know why he would ask for a blue check _yesterday_ if he was a red =\
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 06:45 GMT
#2344
ps hyperbola, editing posts EVER is like a modkill =\
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 07:33 GMT
#2347
actually, never mind me, i am an idiot

unvoting kenpachi and taking down hittegods today. the town circle suspects him of being the vampire lord.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 09:12 GMT
#2354
by the way, any defense i might have of hittegods has nothing to do with a clue analysis. it has to do with the fact that he was one of the ones who PMed me asking to be DT checked BEFORE that clue even came out (read: before he knew he was in danger). if he was a red, why would he ask me to check him?

but after discussing it in PMs with the circle, we concluded it is likely that given his request to be checked, his distrust of me beforehand, and the obvious clue, he is probably the vampire lord. so i changed my vote and most of the circle (if not all of us) will be hitting him.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 09:17 GMT
#2357
yeah, but node doesn't have a kill clue pointing directly at him. that's what made me stop and think for a minute about him.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 09:27 GMT
#2359
if it were up to you, what would be your kill wagon today, KK?
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 09:53 GMT
#2364
so then you actually want to kill hittegods, KK?
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 09:54 GMT
#2365
... just for a different reason.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 14:27 GMT
#2379
if you like metalface kenpachi and grandmoose, why not just hit kenpachi? cubedin seems to be going for him and really, if i wasnt voting hittegods (which as of now i still will be), id be on kenpachi.

wouldnt mind a hittegods v kenpachi wagon fight tbh. kenpachi is clued as well from day 1 kills.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 14:53 GMT
#2384
fyi ghrur, that does not neutralize the vampires, it just forces them to wait until the deep endgame to attempt to win, due to our win condition's second clause
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 21 2010 15:21 GMT
#2385
ok sleeptime, be back for the night cycle shift
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 00:28 GMT
#2424
okay hello people

not really sure why people are more willing to vote kenpachi over hittegods. they are both targets because of their clues on them, and hittegods' clue is much more obvious. posting history is great and all but the guy has a damn baseball bat in his hand and his song lyric references baseball bats.

that said, dont really care either way, theyre both good kills in the long run. back to kenpachi i go.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 03:44 GMT
#2450
On October 22 2010 12:20 Nemesis wrote:
Annul can check if that car clue really refers to Kenpachi too using Mad Scientist.


my pocket MS was going to check this already back when hitte was the obvious kill

i imagine that my pocket MS is going to check the hitte baseball bat clue now that it seems he is spared, unless anyone has a better option
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 03:55 GMT
#2457
drh said the night post is gonna be 30-60 minutes late, so i imagine it will come late

i wonder if he will accept late votes though

and i am missing the glasse/poison connection. what is it?
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 04:33 GMT
#2463
holy fuck

so hitte WAS blue AND metalface AND chesshaha were reds

whoever it was that called that is a fucking genius
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 04:38 GMT
#2467
airblade: no, he was not my pocket DT
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 04:38 GMT
#2468
EBWOP: i mean pocket MS
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 04:40 GMT
#2470
wow, how lucky for us, holy shit

if neos' last minute vote counted, metal wouldnt have died and neos wouldnt have been modkilled, meaning two more reds would have survived the day.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 04:51 GMT
#2475
airblade: my MS has only 1 relevant piece of clue info right now, and that is that one specific clue does NOT refer to [somebody].


also, i counted the votes again, and it appears drh fucked up. kenpachi should have died, lol. it's 11-9
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 05:06 GMT
#2477
no they said frankensteins only survive night kills, they outright die to nooses
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 05:35 GMT
#2481
dont give people ideas. =(
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 06:42 GMT
#2487
ignore this for now:

i p t o o t g f t p f.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 22 2010 11:25 GMT
#2491
no

the ghost, if any exists, needs to be on me, not nemesis.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 23 2010 08:14 GMT
#2531
the town circle has grown significantly overnight.

i have even more blues with me now. good ones, too, not wimps like frankensteins or anything. =P

i now need more people to request to be DT checked. you all know the drill.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 23 2010 08:26 GMT
#2532
and i am now voting heavonearth. i agree with whoever it was who just said "how has this guy escaped lynching for 3 days"
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 02:46 GMT
#2545
doctorhelvetica can you update the second post with all the deaths etc
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 04:30 GMT
#2557
why are we wavering from the obvious bandwagons: kenpachi (who technically should be dead right now) and heavonearth (who has evaded the target squad for like 4 days)
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 20:33 GMT
#2564
why are people throwing their votes away

the two main wagons right now are kitaman and heavonearth (what happened to kenpachi anyway?)

why is, for example, flicky voting siniquity out of nowhere? this is as good as abstaining. vote.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 20:34 GMT
#2565
btw the town circle can still use people who want to be DT checked tonight.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 20:49 GMT
#2568
i mean you can draw attention through thread posts. siniquity has been under fos for a while now too. but still it is a wasted vote because in this cycle, with 7 hrs left, sin isnt gonna be lynched. not voting on the main wagons just makes me think you cant commit to one because you dont want to be analyzed if the other pops red

i mean maybe it can be good if you really have no idea and cant contribute but in that case you may as well just take the modkill since you arent playing anyway
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 20:50 GMT
#2569
but who the fuck knows ive been awake 38 hours i am not making sense
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 21:20 GMT
#2573
ok so when one of them flips red, you are a red, ok? thats what that logic tells me
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 24 2010 22:07 GMT
#2578
yes you are red if someone else flips scum because you are not making a vote that actually means a thing

the race is between kitaman and heavonearth. in fact i agree, kenpachi is scum. but voting for him is like not voting today.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 25 2010 10:34 GMT
#2613
yes, aztrorisk was my pocket DT.

what you all do not know is that i also have a second one, who we checked last night.

so i can still confirm one person today instead of two =(
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 25 2010 10:42 GMT
#2614
here is the thing

the mafia are going to be hitting towns tonight. if they kill a vampire, its over.

every single remaining ghost needs to be on me tonight

i am also going to ask that blues openly claim to me, especially if you are a ghost. with one of my DTs gone, growing the town circle took a huge hit.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 25 2010 20:38 GMT
#2619
glasse is a confirmed blue. not a vampire.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 25 2010 23:32 GMT
#2623
what that does do is it means mafia only has 1 kill tonight instead of 2.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 08:05 GMT
#2641
i did not have a pocket confirmed ghost.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 08:07 GMT
#2642
by the way, i was not hit (or at least, drh did not come to me saying i was hit)

so the 3rd kill (which failed) was not on me.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 08:10 GMT
#2643
the town circle did not grow last night. some idiot decided to ask to be blue checked and was actually just a green.

by the way if you PM me wanting to be checked, for fucks sake please have a damn power role. making us waste a night for this crap is ridiculous
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 08:15 GMT
#2644
okay, i got it.

spydr is our kill for today.

look at nemesis' clue. i called him out before, "silver instrument" and all, but i believed him when he said his clarinet or whatever that is wasn't silver so it couldn't be the clue

but then, "pale skin" "sound of music" etc... it's him. vote spydr, obvious clued red.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 15:46 GMT
#2646
there were 4 possibilities for people i couldve checked last night.

one of them died.
one of them is working with the circle despite not having been DT confirmed
one of them is still on the list to be checked
one of them was you.

i did not want to check nemesis (#1) because i was suspicious of him to begin with, what with his PMs to our mad scientist and his refusal to claim to me if he wanted in the circle.

i did not want to check #2 because i would rather get a complete outsider into the circle even if he himself is not DT confirmed (he roleclaimed and gave us good info so i believe him)

i had to weigh between #3 and #4 and i figured you were a good call since i thought if i "cleared" #3 after he accused me pretty hard earlier in the game, my credibility would drop. so i picked you.

it doesnt matter i guess, we just need to pwn 1 vampire and the game is over. keep clearing towns and we will find it
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 18:17 GMT
#2650
*nod*

a correct lynch, however, wins us the game, and i think i found it.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 21:14 GMT
#2655
uh

1. aztrorisk is dead, why are people voting him?

2. jcarlsoniv is a zombie. town circle checked him last night. people need to read the thread. so, unvote aztrorisk, unvote jcarlsoniv, and vote at least someone not confirmed town and/or dead. preferably spydr.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 26 2010 21:17 GMT
#2656
also, zerroth, are you claiming DT or something? or are you the 2nd mafia remaining along with spydr =\

and btw, mafia can still win. they need to wait until DEEP endgame to do it, though. but their chances at winning are not done yet.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 03:42 GMT
#2665
i dont like the whole "claim if youre mafia" plan -- from the perspective of a mafia player i would find this horribly stupid to do

but if there is some strategy behind it that i am missing, if you wanna claim to the circle, go right ahead, i guess. we wont go after you for obvious reasons
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 15:07 GMT
#2669
i have unvoted you for now. so should everyone. consider this carefully.

here is what i see:

if we do not kill you today:

if you are vampire, the real mafia will be dumb to hit you because that is suicide for them, and they can still win, even if the odds are astronomical, so why would they gg out? you will live the night and we will know none the better.

if you are mafia, then the vampires ought to be hitting you tonight anyway. there probably are not 2 ghosts left to protect against a double hit, because that would put 4 ghosts in the game and that's ridiculously overpowered (though who knows, there are 4 JOLs)


so, by not killing you tonight, either A. the town suffers, or B. you die regardless, and at the end of the cycle, 4 people are dead, you and two others, except we take one of the wildcard kills away from the vampires and back into the town's hands (possibly hitting a vampire anyway)


if we do kill you today:

if you are vampire, we win outright.

if you are mafia, then the vampires have 2 kills to make and need only to hit 1 target for the win.



so, by sparing spydr, we take the safer path. by killing spydr, we take the risky path, where we can win it all right now or remove one of our outs.

im too lazy to like go out and find all his posts and shit, but someone else definitely should do this
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 18:33 GMT
#2671
On October 27 2010 11:33 SiNiquity wrote:
Clues where Mafia died in the night (meaning the result must have been a vampire kill).



dont forget the power of the grim reapers
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 19:39 GMT
#2675
alright, i have thought about it for a bit and decided that i will keep my vote on spydr. the chance to win the game right here and now is very powerful. if he was a vampire, his only chance at all would be to claim mafia (which he did), especially after seeing votes like 6-0 on him with no other wagon on the table.

people should make up their own minds, because this is the most important moment we have had in this game. but i have made mine.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 20:53 GMT
#2679
wow.

well, if spydr and zerroth are actually mafia, then they have just conceded. mafia has no possible way to win the game.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 21:25 GMT
#2682
by the way

not to detract from the current conversation, but the town circle currently has no good targets for nightly DT checking. step up. blues only, please. no straight greens =(
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 21:28 GMT
#2684
i have come to learn that of my possible check targets last night, you were not the only straight green on that list. that is why i sadface =(
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 21:42 GMT
#2686
i really doubt its #2. the ones i know + the ones who have flipped != what would make balance sense for the number of roles in existence

maybe its #1, i dunno. =\
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 27 2010 21:42 GMT
#2687
hell, in fact, i have sent you the "state of the town circle day 6" message, right? you know everyone i know. you know it doesnt add up.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 01:46 GMT
#2699
On October 28 2010 07:55 SiNiquity wrote:
Mafia never had a chance of winning the game once they dropped below 3. Note that no vampire can be killed with at least one town member alive, else the town wins. Mafia have one hit, so they can kill at most one vampire, and they can only do this once every town member has been eliminated. Best case scenario is vampires use their 2 hits to eliminate remaining town, and mafia uses their 1 hit on vampire. But then it's 3-2 vamps so vamps win.


assume the following:

vampires 4, mafia 2, town 5. 11 players remain. a very possible scenario given current numbers.

if it is day, and mafia+town vote out a vampire, vamps fall to 3, mafia sits at 2, town is at 5. town does NOT win here, because the second win condition states the town must OUTNUMBER the remaining reds, and 5 does not outnumber 5.

just one example of a way mafia has not yet necessarily lost the game
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 01:49 GMT
#2700
On October 28 2010 07:37 zerroth wrote:
Annul, because you always ask for people to pm you to be role checked if they are blue, There is a high possibility that count dracula i hidden amongst your circle. So count yourcircle and check the most susceptible person. Your supposed DT could be count dracula and when the new comer that enters your circle may be check by that count dracula. Then the count says, they are not vamps so it'll trick all you guys.


my DT is not the vampire lord.

aztrorisk checked me night 2 and PMed me, "hi, youre JOL. im dt." and the town circle was born.

it would be one hell of a rolefish for him to come message me that out of nowhere. in fact, he's dead, and its shown he was not vampire lord.

aztrorisk checked my second DT and he came back as another DT. we have since checked other people who have also confirmed what my second DT has said. he is also not the vampire lord.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 01:54 GMT
#2702
so my point is that it is possible i guess for ONE of the people in the circle to be the vampire lord, but it isnt our DT.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 13:35 GMT
#2715
zerroth, who have you witch blocked every night?
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 14:40 GMT
#2718
okay, you are a liar.

you did not curse me night 4, because i dropped a pumpkin night 4.

you did not curse node night 5, because his role went through night 5.

so either:

1. you are the witch, and you are intentionally lying to town for some reason
2. you are not the witch.
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 14:57 GMT
#2722
From: Node [ 155 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: night 5 circle info
Date: 10/26/10 17:29
I got on kenpachi. He left (and promptly died).

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
what was your night 5 check/result?
annul
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United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 15:02 GMT
#2723
zerroth, respond to my PM, because i have more to tell you once i see your reaction to what i sent.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 18:56 GMT
#2728
ffs

for the love of god why would you think you would get modkilled by telling the circle the truth? if you wouldve been modkilled for inactivity drh wouldve hit you at sunrise, right?

please never ever do that again.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 22:27 GMT
#2740
!

GG ;D

*bows* that's how you play this game ;D

i am on my laptop in class right now, but when i get home in ~3 hours i will post every detail of the game from my perspective and from the perspective of my team.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 28 2010 22:59 GMT
#2754
we were in #teamedward on IRC

i will post the full game logs (all 21 days worth or whatever) as well, when i get home.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 00:25 GMT
#2768
nemesis: the "i will have you checked" inconsistency was a blunder on my part, but i had told many people who asked to be blue checked that i would let them know if we chose them, and i figured i told you that too, which i didnt

furthermore, we were going after zerroth anyway even without you pointing him out to me. so if you "proved" my vampire lord role from that, you'd have lucked into it and would have been right, but for the wrong reason.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 00:30 GMT
#2771
aztro: i knew you were blue. i figured you may have even been a DT. the questions i asked you on day 1 and night 1 were designed specifically to elicit a check if you were the DT. i hinted that i had a role and that i wanted to work with you, but had no problem at all just cutting you out of my plan. this was calculated and intentional.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 00:58 GMT
#2776
http://pastebin.com/7f1rGgHy <--- #teamedward logs, in full. a lot of shit in there.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 01:44 GMT
#2780
and this conversation with aztrorisk is what started it all. first message is when he came out to me, and the last three messages (the ones at the top) crystallized my game strategy. funnily enough, not so sure i would have pulled the trigger so early if not to save quickstriker.


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From: aztrorisk [ 467 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: code
Date: 10/19/10 10:43
Ok, heres the deal

You can go around and ask for someone to claim blue. If you do get someone to claim blue, then I'll check him.

However, I'm just warning you that V/M will assume that your DT and you are very likely to die. That is my only concern.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
i want to get blues confirmed, i think it is more powerful to form a confirmed circle than to go after suspicious people. this is why i want some blue to come out to me (without saying what they are) for you to check and bring them in

do you think it is too early to do this?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:

Oh,I guess you did.

BTW, I'ma check quicksilver. He looks very suspicious.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
yes i did

i told you orgolove and glurio, scroll down its there

i know i can move glurio's, but what i am saying is if he dies by the town, then i have only 1 bomb at orgolove. if i move glurio's bomb onto someone, and then both myself and orgolove die at night, then i only bomb one target. that's why i try to not lynch who i got my bombs on, cuz the same logic will apply no matter what.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
bTW, you never told me who do you have the bombs on.

If you have two bombs planted, you can move it tonight.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
i think he is too, thats why i got my bomb on him

i am trying not to vote my bomb targets, just in case. i dont want him to be lynched in the day and then, say, i get hit at night and now i possibly can only bomb 1 person (if orgo is hit at night too)

i would much rather it have been artanis or heavon that the wagon rolled on. i think glurio dies today anyway though.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:

hey, can you change ur vote to Gurio? I think he has a good chance to be mafia because BM was a big advocate for vendril.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
obviously im not going to tell them you are a DT

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:

My code was wrong (however, it might still be right) but the reactions to the code is what leads me to consider these candidates. NO revealing my identity at all cost because it would mean that I would immediately die.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
orgolove and glurio

as a side note, i am trying to not give away your secret in my defense from ghrur, but not so sure how to do this without just continuing to say "my code was right, stfu" and without discrediting you -- what should i do?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
Hey, who are your 2 bombs currently located at?

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
alright

im going to sleep, when i wake up i will try to think of more that can be done

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
Basically, it was me being stupid and paranoid that I would die and I claimed JoL in order to reduce the chances of me getting targeted. I thought it ended up working. I still want to claim to be JoL.

I don't know if I believe glasse anymore because of what happened with glasse. If I stay alive, we'll have another member of target for our time circle every day.

Honestly, your the only person I completely trust.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
can you explain to me the thought process behind the day 1 JOL claim? what info did you try to get from that? what info DID you get from it?


if you believe glasse is boogeyman (which i do), i wonder if we can get a town circle going. i dont want to pull a pandain though and draw attention to myself. JOL is a late game role more than anything.



-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:

yup. that is why I revealed myself to you. now we can work together. Man, everything I worked up to now has been sabotaged by the invisible man. Damn it!
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From annul:
finally, something concrete from you. =]

okay, we need to break this game open somehow. pandain was your night 1 (framed) and i was your night 2, right?


-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
Your a JoL.

I'm a DT

don't tell anyone





annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 01:52 GMT
#2782
btw "doctorhelvetica" in IRC may not have actually been the real drh

he usually used "ryry" in IRC
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 29 2010 13:43 GMT
#2803
it was vamp poison n3 + mafia hit n4
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 31 2010 14:56 GMT
#2820
drh,

early in the game you forced two mod edits, i think deconduo and pandain

what were they?
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