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On October 13 2010 09:38 youngminii wrote:
If anyone ever PMs you a counter argument to one of your arguments in the thread, ignore it, tell the person to post it in the thread and if they don't do it, quote it in the thread yourself.
Do not ever let someone take a public discussion/argument and turn it into a private one.
Business Socks(BS). It helps stop Spam. You can post a question raised up into the thread, but this just gives cover for mafia to ignore pms and tell them to post in thread, when someone may be asking you something personally.
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Well I'm off to sleep. Not sure if I'll be back in the next few hours (maybe over 10+).
If Masq doesn't get lynched I'll be seriously annoyed throughout day 2. 
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Original Message From Pandain:
GIVE ME THOUGHTS NOW YUM YUM
YUM YUM MONSTA DEMANDS BRAIN FOOD
Yum Yum ==> Food
Food ==> Sausage
Sausage ==> "Franks"
Frankenstein
Frankenstein also has no thoughts, meaning he would require others to feed him thoughts. He also has no tact, which in text would be represented with proper punctuation and capitalization and would demand such items without properly asking.
k 1 down 60 to go
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You didn't ask me anything/speak to me personally. You replied to my *public* argument and argued your case *privately*. There's a reason some games don't allow PMs. Everyone's arguments should be plain and open in the public eye so that they can be analysed and dissected. If you have something to ask someone or don't want the rest of town/scum to see what you are writing to someone, then PM all you want. But there's no reason for you to hide your arguments except that you don't want people to analyse them later on in the game.
Obvious scumlike behaviour, not pointing fingers yet.
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Dude Pandain's clearly Frankenstein lay off 
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On October 13 2010 09:46 SiNiquity wrote:
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Original Message From Pandain:
GIVE ME THOUGHTS NOW YUM YUM
YUM YUM MONSTA DEMANDS BRAIN FOOD
Yum Yum ==> Food
Food ==> Sausage
Sausage ==> "Franks"
Frankenstein
Frankenstein also has no thoughts, meaning he would require others to feed him thoughts. He also has no tact, which in text would be represented with proper punctuation and capitalization and would demand such items without properly asking.
k 1 down 60 to go
In what context did he even send this? It just seems bizzare to me.
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On October 13 2010 09:47 youngminii wrote:
You didn't ask me anything/speak to me personally. You replied to my *public* argument and argued your case *privately*. There's a reason some games don't allow PMs. Everyone's arguments should be plain and open in the public eye so that they can be analysed and dissected. If you have something to ask someone or don't want the rest of town/scum to see what you are writing to someone, then PM all you want. But there's no reason for you to hide your arguments except that you don't want people to analyse them later on in the game.
Obvious scumlike behaviour, not pointing fingers yet.
Posted without including this. If you really want what he said to be posted so bad, why not just post the PMs? I guess it's less reliable, because they could be forged, but I think that imitating Pandain's writing style would be kind of hard.
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Question about the game:
Franky: if he die 1st time, will be be aware about it? will anyone else know that he only has 1 life left? lynching cost him 2 life or 1?
I requires the number of people could have for each roles. What i mean is for Example:
GF = 1
Count = 1
zombie = 0 ->31
Frank = 0 ->31????????????
DTs = 0-31?
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On October 13 2010 09:53 Kpyolysis32 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 09:47 youngminii wrote:
You didn't ask me anything/speak to me personally. You replied to my *public* argument and argued your case *privately*. There's a reason some games don't allow PMs. Everyone's arguments should be plain and open in the public eye so that they can be analysed and dissected. If you have something to ask someone or don't want the rest of town/scum to see what you are writing to someone, then PM all you want. But there's no reason for you to hide your arguments except that you don't want people to analyse them later on in the game.
Obvious scumlike behaviour, not pointing fingers yet. Posted without including this. If you really want what he said to be posted so bad, why not just post the PMs? I guess it's less reliable, because they could be forged, but I think that imitating Pandain's writing style would be kind of hard.
I did.
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Oh, hahaha, I didn't even realize that was a PM, thought it was just a quote from earlier. That'll teach me to look closer at things, I guess.
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On the case of that Heaven on earth guy, i think you have to re consider your logic... assuming he is a red, that kid has 1 SINGLE POST... he has no power what so ever and possibly just a newb. That type of player should has nothing to worry about: unless he start talking. Im quite sure he will be 1 of the bandwagon players which normally happen alot in any mafia games.
If he is a green/blue and he got lynched=> you are screwed. Not to mention the chance of him being a green/blue over red is higher (31/61, cmon).
The way you are proving he is red also making no-sense:
1st of all it was his 1st post and to newb, it common to see stupid non-sense posts. 2ndly, u were using clue. Now clue is something really UNRELIABLE when we have FREAKING 61 players...
about masq vs veld: i think they are both dying soon, 1 by lynching and 1 by M/V since they think the survivor is belonged to the other team. Its not like saving Veld will make him alive. Also you could see that under this pressure, Veld has stopped to post. Thats clearly not something a good player will do so i dont think his value is that much.
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Original Message From Pandain:
I WILL die if im not protected.
I didn't protect both of them, if anything I "protected" Vendril to the extent that I pointed out that Heaven on earth was a better choice and masq is a better choice than vendril. However, since I wasn't able to muster enough votes for heaven on earth I revoted for masq.
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Original Message From NB:
Saying that does not make you a scum but what if they happen to lynch a red today? You are the one who protecting BOTH of them... even if the one they lynch today is green/blue, the other still could be red and their opinions on you wont change.
Now i dont trust you yet but i just dont wana see a "reasonable" players to remove himself out of the game so quickly.... Not even counting you could be a target for M/V KP tonight
GL man!
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Original Message From Pandain:
I already gave up on that, I was hoping that enough people would be as active at viewing this thread as I am. I suppose I have too much free time.
If I feel like one canidate is better than another, I will speak my mind. That is THE pro town thing to do.
Saying that makes me scum is false, and you should rethink that.
Also I need to calm down, even though I'm not yelling, I'm getting naturally agressive. Yum yum does not like that.
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Original Message From NB:
The true that either masq or veld being lynched tonight is undeniable. if you are a green/blue the best way to solve this is prepare for after damage. Instead you went a head and accused a guy who has 1 post in the thread and "protect" both veld and masq. I have to agree that you are now on the top nomination for lynching award day2.
No matter what is you speaking right now, true or false, it will be like Galileo vs the Church and since this is a survival game, scarifying yourself for the truth is not always a good choice considering you seeing yourself as a "helpful" townie.
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Original Message From Pandain:
i don't know what i have to defend myself for.
I already asked what im being accused of in thread, no on eresponded.
just to make thing clear and make sure that this pm wont face against me in the future, i publicizing it :D
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Please don't post pms, sometimes people PM for a reason. Sometimes people don't want other people to see things.
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On October 13 2010 10:12 Pandain wrote:
Please don't post pms, sometimes people PM for a reason. Sometimes people don't want other people to see things.
It's ok by the rules, just to be clear.
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NOTICEA question about the MetalFace guy: check out his profile and post history. His account was made on September 27th. He has 3 total posts. His first post was in the mafia forum request thread. His only post in this thread was a cover post, asking how the voting is done. His last post is a vote against Veldril. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MetalFaceIt's highly unlikely this guy is actually someone new who just found teamliquid. Who the hell joins teamliquid and makes his first post to be in the mafia game? Who the hell actually knows how to put pictures and edit their signature etc, but only have three posts? This guy is 100% a smurf of another player here. So lame - DrH, shouldn't you be checking this kind of shit before the game starts?
Heyo. Just to clear this up for you, I am in fact not a smurf. After starting to play SC2 a friend of mine suggested I check out TL because, as I'm sure you all know, this is the place to be for SC2 strats. I made an account so I could sign up for the NA TL Open, but unfortunately, couldn't make it. As for my low post count, I was never really one for posting a ton because A) I'm not all that good at SC2, and B) I'm firmly believe bad people posting just makes for bad forums. Realistically, why would I make a smurf account using a SC2 name that is legit?
And so I had been happy in my lurking until I saw the Haunted Mafia signup on the left hand bar. I had played a simplified version of Mafia IRL but nothing like this before.
Honestly, I have no way of proving this to you, but quite frankly, whether or not you believe me doesn't really matter.
As for voting, it's the first night and as much as you guys want to get really deep into the clues, someone has to die. Once we lynch someone, we'll be a lot closer to finding out who is mafia/vampire. There's like 5-6 people right now that we could lynch and and one of them would give us a ton of information as to who's who, but for right now we're just working off of a handful of clue and a mountain of speculation.
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On October 13 2010 10:15 MetalFace wrote:Show nested quote +NOTICEA question about the MetalFace guy: check out his profile and post history. His account was made on September 27th. He has 3 total posts. His first post was in the mafia forum request thread. His only post in this thread was a cover post, asking how the voting is done. His last post is a vote against Veldril. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MetalFaceIt's highly unlikely this guy is actually someone new who just found teamliquid. Who the hell joins teamliquid and makes his first post to be in the mafia game? Who the hell actually knows how to put pictures and edit their signature etc, but only have three posts? This guy is 100% a smurf of another player here. So lame - DrH, shouldn't you be checking this kind of shit before the game starts? Heyo. Just to clear this up for you, I am in fact not a smurf. After starting to play SC2 a friend of mine suggested I check out TL because, as I'm sure you all know, this is the place to be for SC2 strats. I made an account so I could sign up for the NA TL Open, but unfortunately, couldn't make it. As for my low post count, I was never really one for posting a ton because A) I'm not all that good at SC2, and B) I'm firmly believe bad people posting just makes for bad forums. Realistically, why would I make a smurf account using a SC2 name that is legit? And so I had been happy in my lurking until I saw the Haunted Mafia signup on the left hand bar. I had played a simplified version of Mafia IRL but nothing like this before. Honestly, I have no way of proving this to you, but quite frankly, whether or not you believe me doesn't really matter. As for voting, it's the first night and as much as you guys want to get really deep into the clues, someone has to die. Once we lynch someone, we'll be a lot closer to finding out who is mafia/vampire. There's like 5-6 people right now that we could lynch and and one of them would give us a ton of information as to who's who, but for right now we're just working off of a handful of clue and a mountain of speculation.
Character name and identifier, please? If there's a "Metalface" on Bnet, it does a gigantic amount for good for clearing your name as a smurf, I feel. Nobody would buy a new copy of SC2 or permanently name their character just to hide their name for 1 game of Mafia.
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I mean to say "If you are 'Metalface' on Bnet" not "If there's a 'Metalface' on Bnet"
Just to clarify
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On October 13 2010 10:15 MetalFace wrote:Show nested quote +NOTICEA question about the MetalFace guy: check out his profile and post history. His account was made on September 27th. He has 3 total posts. His first post was in the mafia forum request thread. His only post in this thread was a cover post, asking how the voting is done. His last post is a vote against Veldril. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MetalFaceIt's highly unlikely this guy is actually someone new who just found teamliquid. Who the hell joins teamliquid and makes his first post to be in the mafia game? Who the hell actually knows how to put pictures and edit their signature etc, but only have three posts? This guy is 100% a smurf of another player here. So lame - DrH, shouldn't you be checking this kind of shit before the game starts? Heyo. Just to clear this up for you, I am in fact not a smurf. After starting to play SC2 a friend of mine suggested I check out TL because, as I'm sure you all know, this is the place to be for SC2 strats. I made an account so I could sign up for the NA TL Open, but unfortunately, couldn't make it. As for my low post count, I was never really one for posting a ton because A) I'm not all that good at SC2, and B) I'm firmly believe bad people posting just makes for bad forums. Realistically, why would I make a smurf account using a SC2 name that is legit? And so I had been happy in my lurking until I saw the Haunted Mafia signup on the left hand bar. I had played a simplified version of Mafia IRL but nothing like this before. Honestly, I have no way of proving this to you, but quite frankly, whether or not you believe me doesn't really matter. As for voting, it's the first night and as much as you guys want to get really deep into the clues, someone has to die. Once we lynch someone, we'll be a lot closer to finding out who is mafia/vampire. There's like 5-6 people right now that we could lynch and and one of them would give us a ton of information as to who's who, but for right now we're just working off of a handful of clue and a mountain of speculation.
i dont know how many times i have to say this. clues on day1 mean jack shit. do not rely on them until day 2 AT EARLIEST. and then you'll need really good clue analysis skills. and day 2 clues will probably not be about the same people, so it still wouldnt be a great idea to rely on them. at this point i'd much rather completely ignore them unless i were the mad scientist.
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Whether or not he is a smurf is irrelevant....
let's stick to the matter at hand, no?
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Character name and identifier, please? If there's a "Metalface" on Bnet, it does a gigantic amount for good for clearing your name as a smurf, I feel. Nobody would buy a new copy of SC2 or permanently name their character just to hide their name for 1 game of Mafia.
MetalFace.607
North America
I'm the only MetalFace
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On October 13 2010 09:53 NB wrote:
Question about the game:
Franky: if he die 1st time, will be be aware about it? will anyone else know that he only has 1 life left? lynching cost him 2 life or 1?
I requires the number of people could have for each roles. What i mean is for Example:
GF = 1
Count = 1
zombie = 0 ->31
Frank = 0 ->31????????????
DTs = 0-31?
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host, would you like me to pm this to you or you can answer this on the thread?
also about red's roles, could they have more than 1 person for each role? i mean 5 invisible men ect?
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