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On October 12 2010 19:02 Veldril wrote:
It seems most people are out for my blood now.
I feel like now when I try to defend or propose something up, most people will come up with even more excuses to vote me. It seems I really made a grudge with Bill Murray, since he's the most vocal to get me killed. I don't really understand why you would want me to get lynched so badly. I would shift a vote off you if you have explain the reason why do you think "defending others" would mean "Red defends Red".
Also, I feel that either me or Masq get lynched, it would not be a good situation for Townie or me at all. If Masq get lynched and turn out to be red, people would still suspect me and that could hurt townie since they would spend their focus on me being red and I would still get fried. If Masq turn out to be green, I don't think some people will let me go free without discrediting me, therefore I could not make impact in the future day/night.
However, if I get lynched today, it would be a game over. It may seems cowardice but I will have to vote for Masq to save myself. I just wish that Masq indeed turns out to be green.
In response to the bold in paragraph one: that is reading to me as AtE. "Why are you voting for me?" I'm going to play like deconduo here and say why = fry.
In response to the italicized, I don't give a fuck if you unvote me. Your vote on me looks both pitiful and scummy, so you are likely scum. Voting on your attacker, and attacking the attackers of your allies like you have with a chainsaw is not helping your position in this game.
If you really are town, you need to watch what you say more next game. I don't know if there is anything I could do to turn this around, nor do I know if I want to other than I feel bad for you due to your AtE. Feeling bad does not mean that I am going to stop pushing for your lynch.
In response to the bold in your second paragraph, you said "townie or me". That seems to put distance between yourself and the town there. Are you saying "i'm not town", or are you saying "i'm blue"? I don't believe you're blue.
in terms of italics in P2, why are you so concerned about the night? why is the night so important to you? are you a vampire? I don't care about the night WHATSOEVER. I care about using the only things I have - my vote and my brain - mmmmm brains... so get someone I feel is mafia lynched.
In response to the underlined, your wishing masq turns out green does not mean that masq is not on your team.
1) you are both mafia "i wish he was green!"
2) you are mafia, he is not on your team "i wish he was green" would go to "i hope he's green"
3) you are green, you don't know what he is "i hope he's fucking green" or "i'm wishing" not "i wish"
you saying "i wish he's green" doesn't feel right to me unless you are mafia
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On October 13 2010 00:21 Lexpar wrote:
Not sure who to vote for. Voted Masq yesterday to not get modkilled. Would much prefer to vote for Orglove after the way he's been acting.
Jodogohoo. You accuse nearly everyone of nearly everything directly after they post. You've switched your vote half a dozen times. You're twitchy dude. Really twitchy.
You realize FoS on someone followed by a vote/stronger FoS on someone usually implies the first person is on your mafia team?
looking at Lexpar/Orgolove now because of this above
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On October 13 2010 03:19 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 19:02 Veldril wrote:
It seems most people are out for my blood now.
I feel like now when I try to defend or propose something up, most people will come up with even more excuses to vote me. It seems I really made a grudge with Bill Murray, since he's the most vocal to get me killed. I don't really understand why you would want me to get lynched so badly. I would shift a vote off you if you have explain the reason why do you think "defending others" would mean "Red defends Red".
Also, I feel that either me or Masq get lynched, it would not be a good situation for Townie or me at all. If Masq get lynched and turn out to be red, people would still suspect me and that could hurt townie since they would spend their focus on me being red and I would still get fried. If Masq turn out to be green, I don't think some people will let me go free without discrediting me, therefore I could not make impact in the future day/night.
However, if I get lynched today, it would be a game over. It may seems cowardice but I will have to vote for Masq to save myself. I just wish that Masq indeed turns out to be green.
1) you are both mafia "i wish he was green!" 2) you are mafia, he is not on your team "i wish he was green" would go to "i hope he's green" 3) you are green, you don't know what he is "i hope he's fucking green" or "i'm wishing" not "i wish" you saying "i wish he's green" doesn't feel right to me unless you are mafia
Umm, please look at my location... English is not my first language, so finding faults in my wording or grammar is a little bit illogical.
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your wording and grammar are better than most peoples' from here, therefore i disagree
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2010 02:47 kingjames01 wrote:
This game is crazy. There's too much going on and too many players.
Everyone needs to remember:
- Vampires know who the other vampires are
- Mafia members know who the other mafia are
- Only Town doesn't know anything
- There are 39 Town-aligned players
If there's a bandwagon against someone and everyone starts to join, it ALWAYS benefits the Vampires/Mafia if they know that person doesn't belong to the same team. So slow down and consider that you're probably voting to kill a Green or a Blue.
If someone finds a clue in a profile, ask yourself:
Did that person check EVERYONE?
Did YOU check EVERYONE?
If not, you are not doing your due diligence and are going to get innocents killed. The people who are leading the bandwagons ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. Those are the people you should be suspicious of.
"Oh guess what everyone? I just found another clue and that means X is guilty. Let's lynch him."
If he flips Green/Blue - "Oh, he's Green/Blue? My mistake!"
otherwise he'll flip whichever Red team he's not on, "Oh he's Vampire/Mafia? Great, see? I'm helping!"
Evaluate the evidence for yourself before you jump on a bandwagon.
As for my vote it goes to Veldril for all of his inconsistencies in the game so far. He's playing like he has information to hide and he's hoping he won't get caught.
This post from kingjames01 is a complete contradiction
i am voting him for this
his post = "guys, don't bandwagon blindly" into
"i'm gonna vote veldril on weak reasons" because he wants to bandwagon
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On October 13 2010 03:28 Bill Murray wrote:
your wording and grammar are better than most peoples' from here, therefore i disagree
But it's still not perfect as far as I know, I still feel my grammar suck a lot... But that's unrelated to game.
Well, I like what you post. Getting fried in the first game is not a bad experience though, since I could learn something from it. No need to feel bad if you believe you do the right thing for the town.
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I seriously think Bill Murray is trying to take the lead or something here, trusting what he says may not be the best idea.
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You don't have to trust me. I obviously didn't even trust myself as Veldril has been acting a lot more pro-town lately than he was earlier. I am not even voting him at this point.
change my mind so much i can't even trust it
my mind change me so much i can't even trust myself
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AFAIK orgolove has posted more than me, and some of my posts have been way, way more detailed than his.
Furthermore, his spreadsheet is misleading as fuck, and contrived to pull the wool over your eyes
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I have not opened that spreadsheet a single time, as i suggested. Until we know what he is for sure we can't trust him. He could put some false shit in there.
Don't trust anyone!
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Also, guys, notice how I didn't reply to the TL Mafia XXXI thread except at 3:05... because noone is online for me to talk to.
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
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err, I just looked at orgolove's spreadsheet for the first time. At the top he has the death description. Does that mean the clues to the killer are all in the death descriptions? isn't it possible to be any part of death post ?
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i need to be mia for while (less than 24 hours) due to hw issue, i will try to post but not as much as u have seen.
I would be really sad if we have a blue lynch so please consider your vote carefully 
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i'd also like to defend my spam through this logic:
i fully expect to die tonight if a ghost doesn't protect me, so I am trying to be useful.
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
I summarized what I could. You could always go to the main story link to read more..
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Bill.
We can sit around, speculate and dwell on the past, and get nowhere... or we can go forward!
I am fairly happy lynching coagulation/masq, and I am glad people are voting for them.
This seems very forced. Maybe this, maybe that. I'm voting this guy. Fuck all the clue speculation, let's lynch Veldril over this post.
LOL. YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU'D BUDDY WHEN MAFIA, AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WITH MASQ. I DON'T MEAN TO BE FUNNY WITH HALLOWEEN-REFERENCES, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN MR VAMPIRE LOL
This is pretty damning. This is called an OMGUS. He is voting me because I have made a very good case on him, and he is pussysore about it. OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck. Veldril is standing in the grave he's digging, and it's a two plotter. One is for himself, one is for masq. Masq is mostly harmless, though, so lets get Veldril out of the way first.
Yo, guys. Clues are great, but lets focus on discussion of how to properly use our roles and who is scum based upon bad posts.
sorry, orgolove, but you have me flustered
i am town so you need to look elsewhere
i'll make it orgolove if he attacks me again
he is being aggressive on me whenever all i've been doing primarily until now is making content-filled pro-town posts
makes no sense unless he's mafia
i agree with you
i am up for his lynch because he is poisoning the well through attacking town-contributing-posters like myself
i have deteriorated into posting suckier since he attacked me
he must be a vampire
also, you are a liar. there is your refutation.
served.
i am going to go vote you now orgolove
you care way too much to not be scum
veldril be damned
ok, sorry.
i really am a zombie though
a few of my posts have been like 200 lines
i am the most active member of the town
i have to spotlight to maintain my position
it is not fair to limit me
this is inhibiting on my ability to properly play
totally unfair
You are a sensationalist and you attempt to mislead new members with acronyms and long "pro-town" posts. You repeatedly re-affirm your innocence. You've voted 6 times already and most recently threw your vote into a player with no other votes to prove that you're not a bandwagoner and are going after the true bad guys. In reality, you've voted for whichever player has held the strongest argument against you at any given time. Whenever you're faced with an argument or a fact you can not surmount, you light-heartedly change the subject by "wanting to dance to thriller", or most recently (in defense of your flip-flop voting) playing the fool ("change my mind so much i can't even trust it my mind change me so much i can't even trust myself"), when in reality you're a very experienced mafia player.
You are a con man. You're buying my grandmas jewelry over the phone at unbeatable prices.
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g2g to work
get off around 9 or 10
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On October 13 2010 04:55 Bill Murray wrote:
unvote
vote masq
pandain cleared up some stuff
if masq is red, dt check veldril/ghost protect me
if masq is green, we can ignore the connection i thought was there
problem solved
I don't agree with the post you made in the Voting Thread. You seem to know something about Veldril and you're trying to bail him out. Is he going to be your Godfather/Count? Is that why you think he should be DT checked? With all of the posts that you two have made it seems very likely that you're trying to take control of the game. I think that you two are allied and that you're most likely Red and that you're trying to fool us all. You even just sent me a PM trying to fish for my role.
Everyone, we don't have much time. Think about how Bill Murray has been pressuring us this whole game. Think about Veldril's shallow defence. Consider if they were Red and if their behaviour is consistent with that idea. We need to, as a town, come to a consensus and vote one of these two off. If one is Red, then the other will be.
NOTE: I accidentally posted this in the voting thread. Here it is again.
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On October 13 2010 05:11 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2010 04:55 Bill Murray wrote:
unvote
vote masq
pandain cleared up some stuff
if masq is red, dt check veldril/ghost protect me
if masq is green, we can ignore the connection i thought was there
problem solved I don't agree with the post you made in the Voting Thread. You seem to know something about Veldril and you're trying to bail him out. Is he going to be your Godfather/Count? Is that why you think he should be DT checked? With all of the posts that you two have made it seems very likely that you're trying to take control of the game. I think that you two are allied and that you're most likely Red and that you're trying to fool us all. You even just sent me a PM trying to fish for my role. Everyone, we don't have much time. Think about how Bill Murray has been pressuring us this whole game. Think about Veldril's shallow defence. Consider if they were Red and if their behaviour is consistent with that idea. We need to, as a town, come to a consensus and vote one of these two off. If one is Red, then the other will be. NOTE: I accidentally posted this in the voting thread. Here it is again.
GF doesn't get voted in until day2, i think. could be wrong though.
BM knows that being one of the few veterans here, he has a much higher chance of taking control of the game, something i believe is actually very beneficial for town if he's pro-town.
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