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On October 08 2010 15:42 XeliN wrote:
And Dr I ought to add, because it will be painfully obvious to the mafia at this point, that I am a Green Town player.
The only way I would come out openly about being 100% assured that Bill is a Green Town player is if I was also a Green Town player and could see right off the bat what he was attempting to achieve in his PM shenanigans.
i think we should drop the PM shenanigans for good
we already know some people got told townie and some got told town so it's irrelevant, let's move on please onto something that actually has weight in this game
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Well I am being criticised - indirectly of course because it's almost asif people don't actually want me to respond to anything and want to maintain the luxury of making claim after claim - for "supporting bill"
Now the extent to which I have "supported bill" is that I, from an early stage, claimed him to be 100% Green Town in my eyes.
I agree the PM shenanigans should be dropped but in order to actually explain my position on why I think Bill is clearly town I need to mention the PM stuff that went on.
Otherwise It's going to be quite difficult to respond to people who state something like "Came out and supported bill with no evidence or reasoning...."
The entire "evidence" and reasoning is, as I have already mentioned, because I could immediately see what Bill was trying to achieve in his PM talk. The PM stuff is inextricably linked with that.
If people will stop using my "support" of bill as an argument for my lynch then I will stop making reference to things that happened earlier in the thread.
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town players were not PM'ed the word "town" but rather "townie" as their role. XeliN sums this up nicely:
actually, it's the opposite, siniquity. you must be blue/mafia.
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On October 08 2010 16:16 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +town players were not PM'ed the word "town" but rather "townie" as their role. XeliN sums this up nicely: actually, it's the opposite, siniquity. you must be blue/mafia.
don't be stupid it has literally been confirmed by the mod that this is not the case
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Suspect players from my perspective:
* BloodyC0bbler (claimed "town")
* DoctorHelvetica (claimed "town")
* infinitestory (claimed "town")
* Divinek (just didn't get it, went off on XeliN)
* Amber[LighT] (just didn't get it, went off on XeliN)
* Nuke (just didn't get it)
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE:
BC is mafia forced to resorting to ad hom to attack me, because his play is terrible.
DoctorH is CONFIRMED because he claimed town, and is likely a townie 
infinitestory is CONFIRMED because he claimed town and is likely a townie!
Divinek is being very confused and that indicates to me he isn't red
Amber is very possibly a red
Nuke is scummy, but I'm not sure if he is scum. I would be ok lynching him.
Bill Murray - I am not a crook
Pandain - I want to see more from him
SouthRawrea - I don't believe he's playing to his mafia meta
Misder - great lynch here. squirmy is his mafia meta.
SINiquity - he's either something like a hatter, mafia, or he got his PM from Artanis. IDK! I'd lynch him in a heartbeat.
XeliN - I believe he's a townie, or a clever mafia. Doubt he's blue.
OpZ - blue/mafia
cSc - who? worthy of a lynch just because I don't know who he is
Crisis_ - terribly scummy scum
Drag_ - confused VI
cynanmachae - likely mafia
meeple - felt like an uninterested townie, but when i'm in the game he always tunnels on me. i actually have a fairly tough time reading meeple to be a particular color.
kingjames01 - seemed town to me
ghrur - possibly scum, not sure
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actually, doctorh, mine isn't like that.
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On October 08 2010 16:16 XeliN wrote:
Well I am being criticised - indirectly of course because it's almost asif people don't actually want me to respond to anything and want to maintain the luxury of making claim after claim - for "supporting bill"
Now the extent to which I have "supported bill" is that I, from an early stage, claimed him to be 100% Green Town in my eyes.
I agree the PM shenanigans should be dropped but in order to actually explain my position on why I think Bill is clearly town I need to mention the PM stuff that went on.
Otherwise It's going to be quite difficult to respond to people who state something like "Came out and supported bill with no evidence or reasoning...."
The entire "evidence" and reasoning is, as I have already mentioned, because I could immediately see what Bill was trying to achieve in his PM talk. The PM stuff is inextricably linked with that.
If people will stop using my "support" of bill as an argument for my lynch then I will stop making reference to things that happened earlier in the thread.
If anything your support of me should confirm you as a player. You were the only person to really pick up on what I was saying, other than perhaps InfiniteStory. I'd like to hear more on what he meant. I doubt he was claiming town as blue, but was claiming "town" as green. That's what I was doing, because it is a good strategy to weed out the greens through the word "town"
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On October 08 2010 16:25 Bill Murray wrote:
actually, doctorh, mine isn't like that.
yours isn't like what?
some received a pm that said town some received townie, this has been confirmed and the fact that you're still falling back on your PM trap that was proved to be completely worthless is pathetic
please drop it
i'm more interested to hear why you think crisis_ and cynanmachae are scum since no one has made a good case for either of them yet
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On October 08 2010 16:27 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 16:16 XeliN wrote:
Well I am being criticised - indirectly of course because it's almost asif people don't actually want me to respond to anything and want to maintain the luxury of making claim after claim - for "supporting bill"
Now the extent to which I have "supported bill" is that I, from an early stage, claimed him to be 100% Green Town in my eyes.
I agree the PM shenanigans should be dropped but in order to actually explain my position on why I think Bill is clearly town I need to mention the PM stuff that went on.
Otherwise It's going to be quite difficult to respond to people who state something like "Came out and supported bill with no evidence or reasoning...."
The entire "evidence" and reasoning is, as I have already mentioned, because I could immediately see what Bill was trying to achieve in his PM talk. The PM stuff is inextricably linked with that.
If people will stop using my "support" of bill as an argument for my lynch then I will stop making reference to things that happened earlier in the thread. If anything your support of me should confirm you as a player. You were the only person to really pick up on what I was saying, other than perhaps InfiniteStory. I'd like to hear more on what he meant. I doubt he was claiming town as blue, but was claiming "town" as green. That's what I was doing, because it is a good strategy to weed out the greens through the word "town"
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it was proven false it was proven false literally 100% proven false by brownbear because some received differently worded role pm's from artanis
some received differently worded role pm's from artanis
some received differently worded role pm's from artanis
some received differently worded role pm's from artanis
how many times is that going to be brought up before you accept it and stop pretending that the town/townie distinction means anything
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inb4 bill gets modkilled 
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at least i'm not slinging ad hom like BC
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it also is cool some people picked up on that, because some got them from BB
I am sorry he worded his role pm that way, and I am not posting it or anything. I could be lying, right?
It's all WIFOM.
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On October 08 2010 17:00 Bill Murray wrote:
at least i'm not slinging ad hom like BC
"yeah my whole argument isuseless but at least i'm not as bad as BC"
you just keep getting worse and worse
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On October 08 2010 17:01 Bill Murray wrote:
it also is cool some people picked up on that, because some got them from BB
I am sorry he worded his role pm that way, and I am not posting it or anything. I could be lying, right?
It's all WIFOM.
well i'm glad you're admitting your argument has been useless. so i'm guessing that means you have to take back any accusations made on the basis of your non existent trap
does this mean you're going to drop it?
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Dr claiming there is nothing of value whatsoever to be gleaned from the earlier PM discussions due to the fact it has now been revealed that 2 types were sent is false imo. Using them as a basis for argument may have flaws but the idea that they lack any merit whatsoever is not true.
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On October 08 2010 17:07 XeliN wrote:
Dr claiming there is nothing of value whatsoever to be gleaned from the earlier PM discussions due to the fact it has now been revealed that 2 types were sent is false imo. Using them as a basis for argument may have flaws but the idea that they lack any merit whatsoever is not true.
how do they have any merit when you couldn't possibly trap anyone with them considering both terms were used in role PM's?
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I believed BC was mafia before the trap based upon Happy.Fairytale's play.
I actually got stuck in WIFOM land with opz, not sure if he's blue/mafia. See my above post.
I felt like I've already dropped it.
I'm going to go put my vote on someone where it counts.
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On October 08 2010 17:08 Bill Murray wrote:
I believed BC was mafia before the trap based upon Happy.Fairytale's play.
I actually got stuck in WIFOM land with opz, not sure if he's blue/mafia. See my above post.
I felt like I've already dropped it.
I'm going to go put my vote on someone where it counts.
good.
I'd like to hear your case for crisis_, I've been a bit suspicious of him myself. Although I don't have any reason I'm aware of to suspect cynanmachae. Would you mind elaborating on why you believe him to be mafia?
You are under a lot of pressure as a potential mafia/VI right now so you better back-up anything and everything you say. Hopefully with something that's true this time.
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is kane]deth[ or RoL playing? kane]deth[ voted lol
he apparently wants to double lynch
Can we wagon NukeTheBunnys?
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On October 08 2010 17:10 Bill Murray wrote:
is kane]deth[ or RoL playing? kane]deth[ voted lol
he apparently wants to double lynch
Can we wagon NukeTheBunnys?
kanedeth came back
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