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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 26 2010 18:07 GMT
#703
Coffee and Kittens! :D
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 26 2010 21:16 GMT
#707
On August 27 2010 05:23 DarthThienAn wrote:
##Vote DarthThienAn - placeholder ofc.

I'm confused - why do we believe SR again?

If you don't believe him, its best to kill him in the night anyways. Because it is pretty likely that SR could have taken vengeful player. A lynch would give the mafia another KP
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 26 2010 23:59 GMT
#724
On August 27 2010 08:50 chaoser wrote:
Hey guys, so I just finished reading everything through the pain of my mouth ;_;. Seems like we've settled on Hess being lynched. I was confused as to why if he's townie, I'm a confirmed townie. Maybe I missed something? Also, since I'm bad Santa, should I make my list public as soon as I get the ability to kill someone so we can deliberate?

Oh oops. that was me accidentally mixing up you and Rastaban.

So if Hess flips town, Rasta is confirmed.

It has been said that you should make your list public. That way we can know if the mafia hits someone in the list.
But your idea is better, that way it's like a DT
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 27 2010 02:50 GMT
#742
On August 27 2010 11:33 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Go my buddy LSB!

(Just wanted an excuse to post because it is my birthday today on TL and tomorrow in real life )

Hahaha thanks!

Happy Early Birthday Bro!!
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 27 2010 03:58 GMT
#754
I'm trying to figure out why SR wants us to lynch him.

There has been a lot of suspision on whether or not SR is geniuine. SR could be trying to lynch himself to prove that there is a traitor.
HOWEVER. This would be wasting two lynches for very little information. A very promafia tactic

This casts some doubt on my side

On the other hand, there is a lot of suspicion on SR. Possibly he could be a mafia going on a sucide run, seing how much damages and fake associations he can make before he dies.
The real question then is, is 1 town dead due to Vengeful Player worth 1 mafia?
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 27 2010 15:35 GMT
#777
On August 28 2010 00:18 JeeJee wrote:
i do find it odd that sr is asking himself to be lynched just because he guessed the traitor placement wrong. if anything, he should get cv'd, but if he flips vanilla town, we wouldn't be any further along and i don't think a mafia would just ask for a selflynch (wifom blah blah)

otoh is traitor hunting even that high of a priority? unless mafia kp goes up to 2 with that extra player, its not like it's monumental enough to drop everything else imo

I feel that traitor hunting is a good focus, because we either know 1) there is a traitor or 2) SR is mafia. Since the traitor is practically mafia, it should be an easy kill.

But the problem is, the actual kill is kind of iffy. Once we kill the traitor, thats just one mafia gone, there wont be a trail of breadcrumbs.

Mafia hunting on the other hand could lead to a nice catch and the pleanty of lynches. But in order to do that, we have to analyize people's contributions, and the topic of the traitor is a good discussion
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 27 2010 19:17 GMT
#791
On August 28 2010 04:12 SouthRawrea wrote:
What's with all the confusion about the type of vanilla? Night post said it was Vanilla townie and the colour of the word was green?

I think he's wonder what kind of result the role cop would get.

Ace already said that Vanilla Sk/Mafia/Town would return the same result. Vanilla
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 15:30 GMT
#836
On August 28 2010 14:44 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 12:18 citi.zen wrote:
Also, given how fast he claimed, I doubt he is the traitor - too little time to come up with such a plan.


I disagree with this as well. Suppose you're traitor, and the town's on to you (i.e. you're in the top 5). It's night, you have a chance to be recruited, and you know Night ends at 9 PM EST. You check the thread, refreshing every few minutes to see what happened. Night post goes up and you see the following things:

  • Only kill was on a scum (clearly not the mafia hit)
  • You've received a PM that you've been recruited


It's very easy to put two and two together and realize what happened (you took the hit and got recruited). Night post was at 10:06, Zeks claimed at 10:17. 11 minutes (+/- 1 minute). Heck, even a Mafia watching the events unfold could've PM'ed to Zeks to claim the hit. Plenty of time.

Don't mistake this for me saying that Zeks is absolutely the traitor -- I just don't agree with the conclusion you've reached (i.e. that he's most likely not the traitor) based on the fact that he claimed quickly.

Bed for real now

11 minutes actually is quite a long time if you think about it. In other games where I F5F5F5F5, I'd check my pms, and get a post in by a minute.
Sure you can 'discuss stuff'. But discussion should take pretty long. Disclosing info on the other hand is a pretty spurr of the moment decision.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 15:44 GMT
#838
Subversion Post analysis

He barely posted anything, all he has is a Post about Pandain and a post about SR

(Pandian) + Show Spoiler +
On August 26 2010 09:28 Subversion wrote:
shame, pandain always has suspicion thrown on him.

last game i played with him he was also suspected quite a lot, but he was in fact town. not that he's above suspicion, just take ur feelings towards him with a pinch of salt.




(SR) + Show Spoiler +
On August 27 2010 13:02 Subversion wrote:
does he actually REALLY want to be lynched tho? (lol frank pearce joke not intended)

or is he just saying "ahhh wow i suck i failed might as well lynch me" while knowing we probably won't do that at all.

i dont know, for me personally his post didnt actually make me consider lynching him.


Conclusion, we cannot figure out anything, Subversion acted like a Mafia lurking. Still, a scum dead is always a good thing!
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 19:04 GMT
#882
On August 29 2010 03:53 Radfield wrote:
I love PYP Mafia, it's just so much fun

Citizen, I'm interested to hear your thoughts. Anyone seem particularly pro- or anti- town. If you had to make a list of people to be investigated, who would be on it?

Also, can someone please comment on the case I made for Zeks being traitor.

I want Zeks to claim first, this could shed a lot of light.

Reasons why Zeks could have survived the night:
1) He is the SK
2) He is Bulletproof
3) He is the Traitor
4) Doctor protected him (highly unlikely)

Zeks probably will claim Bulletproof. Once he claims bulletproof, we can watch to see if someone else claims bulletproof, or if someone claims they drafted bulletproof and didn't get it.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 19:17 GMT
#886
I didn't really consider Vet, because Bulletproof is so much more attractive at a role than Vet.
Vet has +1 life, but Bulletproof is invincible! (somewhat at least).

But that does complicate what Zeks will have to claim, increasing his chances of messing up if he is SK/Traitor.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 19:44 GMT
#891
On August 29 2010 04:41 zeks wrote:
Radfield: I went with the 33/33/33 role cop / copy cat / defensive role because there was mention that copycat should be picked earlier. I truthfully randomed my role.

Something that I've discovered

SR #6 below me is assumed vanilla town, Subversion at #7 was vanilla mafia

Which means Subversion could've overlaped with
1. rastaban CV
2. chaoser Bad Santa/traitor
3. LSB PoD/traitor
5. me RC/CC/Defensive role/traitor

Likelihood of Subversion picking

CV
next to nothing

Bad Santa or PoD
Don't see why Subversion will pick those either.

Traitor:
He's scum so he wouldn't pick traitor.

me: RC/CC/Defensive Role

Subversion likely overlapped with me and since Subversion is dead then it is likely that scum would know what my role is...

Unless Subversion overlapped with SouthRawrea, then that means South never picked traitor in the beginning - which doesn't make sense because South would be a townie with a role but lied about being a traitor

Thus conclusion: mafia knows my role and wants me dead by lynch since they couldn't finish the job last night

Which is why I'm not claiming because they will call me out on it.

Okay, so the Mafia already knows your role.
Why aren't you telling us?

Are you worried the Mafia is going to fake claim? If that happens, we can easily kill the Mafia.
Are you hiding something?
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 19:52 GMT
#896
Here's what I think. It seems so Obvious, I'm facepalming myself for not noticing it.

Subversion Picked Rolecop. I am 100% certain, he is mafia, Rolecop is THE town role here.
We should have already figured that out
This is confirmed because Zeks claims that he has a role that the mafia wants dead.

But was blocked, so mafia knows that Zeks is Rolecop
Mafia tries to kill Zeks

But! Zeks is actually Serial Killer. So it doesn't work!!
Zeks CANNOT claim, because we know that a doctor couldn't have protected him.

##VOTE: Zeks Because he is Serial Killer.

Note, SK will not work for us, he is decidedly anti town
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 19:52 GMT
#898
On August 29 2010 04:51 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 04:41 zeks wrote:
Radfield: I went with the 33/33/33 role cop / copy cat / defensive role because there was mention that copycat should be picked earlier. I truthfully randomed my role.

Something that I've discovered

SR #6 below me is assumed vanilla town, Subversion at #7 was vanilla mafia

Which means Subversion could've overlaped with
1. rastaban CV
2. chaoser Bad Santa/traitor
3. LSB PoD/traitor
5. me RC/CC/Defensive role/traitor

Likelihood of Subversion picking

CV
next to nothing

Bad Santa or PoD
Don't see why Subversion will pick those either.

Traitor:
He's scum so he wouldn't pick traitor.

me: RC/CC/Defensive Role

Subversion likely overlapped with me and since Subversion is dead then it is likely that scum would know what my role is...

Unless Subversion overlapped with SouthRawrea, then that means South never picked traitor in the beginning - which doesn't make sense because South would be a townie with a role but lied about being a traitor

Thus conclusion: mafia knows my role and wants me dead by lynch since they couldn't finish the job last night

Which is why I'm not claiming because they will call me out on it.



Please roleclaim ASAP. Subversion came in late and claimed he did not read the plan. This could be BS, but either way there is a decent chance he chose PoD or BadSanta.

Please roleclaim

Zeks is Rolecop.
Think, subversion must have picked rolecop, but is vanilla
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 19:56 GMT
#900
On August 29 2010 04:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Why would mafia hit zeks if they knew his role? I guess I kinda confirmed hes a defense role, since he survived after 4 people visited, and now that seems unlikely its anything but a red visit.

Exactly! Mafia would only hit zeks if they knew he was the rolecop!

But then why did he survive?
Because he's the serial killer
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 20:01 GMT
#903
On August 29 2010 04:59 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 04:56 LSB wrote:
On August 29 2010 04:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Why would mafia hit zeks if they knew his role? I guess I kinda confirmed hes a defense role, since he survived after 4 people visited, and now that seems unlikely its anything but a red visit.

Exactly! Mafia would only hit zeks if they knew he was the rolecop!

But then why did he survive?
Because he's the serial killer


But he's the rolecop.

Therefore, Zeks claim serial killer rolecop or we lynch you. As you very well know if town loses, you do as well. Help us find the scum.

Or you can continue to be ambiguious, and maybe we'll believe you.
But I doubt that's going to happen.

Don't lynch zeks, even if he's serial killer, he's still rolecop.

Either way, he's going to try to kill the town at the end. This will not work. He'll probably just take out major town roles.

Secondly, he adds night KP. That is a BAD thing. We want as much Lynches as possible.

This is the best thing that happened to the town.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 20:08 GMT
#909
On August 29 2010 05:03 Radfield wrote:
Also, I think it more likely that zeks is the traitor then the SK.

Either way we kill him.

But for the sake of discussion. Remember #7 Draft pick, Subversion.

Subversion is Mafia, the mafia would probably PM him, telling him to take Rolecop. Their not going to let some random dude go "LOL! I don't care about this game".
So that means the Rolecop is above Subversion

That leaves 2,3,5,6 to be Rolecop.
But remember, the plan was, if Zeks was blocked from taking Rolecop, he would immediately claim. But he did not claim!

That leaves either Zeks, or SouthRawer as Rolecop.
And if SR is rolecop, I'll eat my shoe.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 20:14 GMT
#914
On August 29 2010 05:10 Radfield wrote:
If that was the plan, why wouldn't subversion just take Bullet Bill? 99% chance he would get that role, 50% chance he would get role cop.

I feel like the Mafia really wanted to take out the Role Cop. If Subversion takes the role cop, the mafia narrow down the rolecop position to 5,6,7.

The rolecop seems a lot more threatening than the Bullet Bill
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 20:14 GMT
#915
On August 29 2010 05:11 zeks wrote:
Or Subversion also picked a defensive role and overlapped with me.

Then claim
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 28 2010 20:48 GMT
#921
On August 29 2010 05:39 zeks wrote:
Fine. I'm role cop. I checked Fishball - I don't want to reveal what he is as now we're practically in a mass roleclaim mode and it would not benefit the town to know what he is: however I will tell you that he did not follow the town's plan either.

I have no idea how bumatlarge got only 4 people from his watch, because I'm not the SK and I lived - to my surprise so someone must've protected me.

I know I'm going to die today as now I fit the perfect profiling of an SK - but please evaluate why LSB was so sure I was role cop - not to mention now only 2 suspects are remaining for the traitor and he is one of them. Radfields push for my lynch and wanting to know who I rolecheck I also find a little bit suspicious.

I apologize for my poor play and allowing scum to corner me this easily. If I go down today I blame no one but myself.


"How do you react when you're cornered? Talk your way out, prepare for battle or insist you're just fine and dandy?" - Mike Baldwin
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