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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 05 2010 15:26 GMT
#10
/in
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 06 2010 01:54 GMT
#23
On August 06 2010 10:51 JeeJee wrote:
/sign
stupid caller and his whippersnapper game
:S

Is that still going on? I kindof want to join in if it is.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 20 2010 02:10 GMT
#91
There we go, is that 21?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 20 2010 23:58 GMT
#182
On August 21 2010 08:28 Bill Murray wrote:
see, this is where radfield is being unhelpful. Just claim some numbers, man.
you are, too, citi.zen, for joking. You know what I mean. I know Radfield is helping through policy discussion and game theory. Durr.


chaoser:4
Pandain:6
Bill: 7
Hesmyrr/zeks: 8

you see how this helps, now? I was going to pick 6. I had sent in [6] [4]. I knew to change when I saw pandain say that. Mafia will be picking single digit numbers, honestly. The highest they might pick is around 10-12, but I seriously doubt that. ( i think they did that last game, though, but it was honestly dumb to do that)

I won last game by picking like [17]. We didn't claim what we were picking, so there were a lot of doubleups on numbers. If the town coordinates on the numbers they're picking, the mafia will be forced to claim and follow what they claimed, or lie to us.


rastaban: 3
chaoser:4
LSB: 5
Pandain:6
Bill: 7
Hesmyrr/zeks: 8

I will be picking 5,1
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 21 2010 01:19 GMT
#199
Number Claims (Please tell me if you change)

JeeJee: 1
DTA: 2
rastaban: 3
chaoser:4
LSB: 5
Bill: 6
Hesmyrr/zeks: 8
Pandain: 12
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 21 2010 18:59 GMT
#252
If you guys want a plan, we should assign people roles. The 20 least detrimental to town roles. Although people will get scum roles, they can still utilize them for town.
+ Show Spoiler +
Floridian
Pardoner
Bad Santa
Vengeful Player
Day Vig
Role Cop
Tracker
Joat
Bullet Bill
Alignment Cop
Bulletproof
Veteran
Meth Man
Doctor
Doctor
Mason
Copy Cat
Watcher
Comp Vig
Martyr


Just randomly assign people to a role. Then, role cops / watchers have their job a lot easier. Also, if a person picks a role, and discovers he's vanilla, its another way to detect something fishy.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 21 2010 19:00 GMT
#253
If you are concerned about blue sniping, I can PM everyone their roles. That way no mafia will know.

The day vigi can kill me day 1 to verify that I am town.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 21 2010 19:06 GMT
#255
Oh whoops, first readthrough I didn't get it. I agree with Radfield's plan.

But why is Day Vig a mafia role?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 22 2010 22:43 GMT
#315
On August 23 2010 07:06 Pandain wrote:
#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness


#4 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#5 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#6 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role

#7 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#9 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role

#10 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role(Doctor, Doctor, Alignment Cop, Watcher, Copy Cat, Mason. You choose)
#11 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role
#12 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role
#13: 50% Bad santa, 50% doctor.
#14. 50% Bad Santa, 50% doctor
#15. 50% Bad Santa, 50% Copy cat/doctor(25 % each)
#16. 50% bad santa, 50% Copycat/doctor (25 percent each)
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other

The draft as of now.
However, this does lead to tracker being less common. Any other suggestions?



I'm assuming this is going to be completely randomized? Yes/no?

Cause if #1 draft slot is going to draft Comp Vig, shouldn't it be quiet easy for the Mafia to stack their people as the first three picks, since a bunch of people have already declared and turned in their numbers?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 22 2010 23:04 GMT
#318
On August 23 2010 07:52 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2010 07:35 SiNiquity wrote:
On August 23 2010 07:11 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 23 2010 07:06 Pandain wrote:
#1 Comp Vig
#2 Bad Santa
#3 Prince of Darkness


#4 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role(Vet, Meth Man, or Bulletproof. 33% chance of each)
#5 50% Joat......... 50% Defensive role
#6 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role

#7 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive role
#8 50% Joat.........50% Defensive role
#9 50% Bullet Bill, 50% Defensive role

#10 25% Role Cop, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role(Doctor, Doctor, Alignment Cop, Watcher, Copy Cat, Mason. You choose)
#11 25% Joat, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role
#12 25% Bullet Bill, 25% Defensive role, 50% pro town non essential role
#13: 50% Bad santa, 50% doctor.
#14. 50% Bad Santa, 50% doctor
#15. 50% Bad Santa, 50% Copy cat/doctor(25 % each)
#16. 50% bad santa, 50% Copycat/doctor (25 percent each)
#17 50% role cop, 50% other
#18 50% Joat, 50% other
#19 50% Bullet Bill, 50% other
#20 50% tracker, 50% other

The draft as of now.
However, this does lead to tracker being less common. Any other suggestions?


not following this plan either. game starts to me after i get to pick my power.

Pandain: If numbers are kept secret, then I don't see a reason to do a weighted algorithm (% based) instead of just a plain role assignment.

Opz: Get over yourself and chill the fuck out.


The draft list will be revealed. If we just assigned roles, then mafia would know who to hit.

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2010 07:43 LSB wrote:

I'm assuming this is going to be completely randomized? Yes/no?

Cause if #1 draft slot is going to draft Comp Vig, shouldn't it be quiet easy for the Mafia to stack their people as the first three picks, since a bunch of people have already declared and turned in their numbers?


People can change numbers. I know I am. I suggest people to do the same

I guess we just sit back and see what happens. I support this plan, as long as it doesn't seem obvious that people were sniped out of positions.

Too think of it, even if we announce numbers, mafia would have a hard time sniping positions. Say they only had 4 numbers. That means they can only get someone from the top 6 initial positions to the top 3 (since they can only 'collide' with so many people).

Announcing numbers is a trade off. A bit of risk for a bit of data. If a few people claimed it still may be beneficial to see who got sniped. It would still be random, but we'd get some information from it.

I will now just say, I have picked 5
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 22 2010 23:14 GMT
#321
On August 23 2010 08:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2010 07:46 Bill Murray wrote:
On August 23 2010 07:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 23 2010 05:38 Bill Murray wrote:
On August 22 2010 20:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 22 2010 16:49 Bill Murray wrote:
Well, I'm not mafia, so if anyone picked [6] with me I'm pushing for their lynch

guess we'll have to take your word on that huh?

I'm fine with your lynch. bad course of action you came up with

No, you're fine with my lynch because you're spiteful due to a past game.

Public knowledge of who is taking what number = we can lynch liars, plain and simple.
It gives the mafia 0 wiggle room if EVERYONE claims. Use your head.

Don't say my reasons you pathetic piece of shit. i say what i mean. go choke. can't acccept the fact that exposing our numbers is a shitty plan? i changed mine just because someone picked mine. thanks for posting pandain. What stops the mafia? 8ust go somwhere and die bill.

um
im seeking you being banned over this post
this crosses the line on ad hom

Whatever Bill. Go do what you do best.

Had fun.

Any bets that OpZ or Bill are going to draft Day Vig and kill someone day1?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 22 2010 23:14 GMT
#322
Wow I suck at english
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 23 2010 01:56 GMT
#351
On August 23 2010 10:54 Ace wrote:
I spoke to Korynne and she said she wont have the time to replace in. She does have a life to live ya know?

What's that?

#4 33% comp vig, 33% bad santa, 33% prince of darkness

RNGing now
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 23 2010 02:03 GMT
#353
On August 23 2010 11:01 Divinek wrote:
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

You knocked down JeeJee/DTA?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 24 2010 00:00 GMT
#421
On August 24 2010 07:49 Ace wrote:
Ok this should be it.

  1. rastaban
  2. chaoser
  3. LSB
  4. Hesmyrr
  5. zeks
  6. SouthRawrea
  7. jspazz
  8. Fishball
  9. ~Opz~
  10. citi.zen
  11. BrownBear
  12. JeeJee
  13. DarthThienAn
  14. siNiquity
  15. Divinek
  16. Radfield
  17. Bill Murray
  18. bumatlarge
  19. Pandain







Okay, a big problem. I already sent my role into Ace. I won't disclose which one it is, but I RNGed it.

I don't know if I can change my role. The mafia might be able to slip through, but the chances of them doing so would be 33%, pretty low good for us.

Hesmyrr's pick will be a problem of course. I think it would be best if Hesmyrr didn't deviate too far from the plan. Possibly picking some defensive role or role not mentioned on the list?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 25 2010 02:45 GMT
#478
HAHAHAHA Wow, that was fast. So I guess Opz wins?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 25 2010 02:51 GMT
#486
Well considering Bill's play last games, I think its an excellent idea!

Like Citi.zen said
On August 24 2010 08:51 citi.zen wrote:
Bm is only ok as Mafia, otherwise he's disruptive or worse. Would be ok lynching him... why not :-)

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 25 2010 02:52 GMT
#487
ooh wow, got ninjad
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 25 2010 19:04 GMT
#575
(I’ll make a long post on incentives!)

So here are the people and their claims so far

Chaoser,
Subverion
Me
Hesmyrr: Claims to have RNGed CV and failed
Zeks
SouthRawrea: Claims to have Picked Traitor and failed

Let’s take a look at specific people
SouthRawrea
Assuming SouthRawrea is town:
As town, SouthRawrea would have incentive to immediately tell what
happened. It would be perfectly natural. So if he’s town, he’s telling
the truth.

Assuming SouthRawrea is mafia:
This could be a mafia disruption tactic. (see Penalty Mafia, how Bill
Murray goes in and acts completely scummy). By sending SouthRawrea,
immediately a witchhunt goes on, trying to lynch random people, buying
the Mafia valuable time.
For example SouthRawrea drafts Prince of Darkness. He’d end up
vanilla. He then claims that he drafted traitor but failed. The town
would proceed to kill Subverion, Me, Hesmyrr, Chaoser (maybe even Zeks
too). And SouthRawrea wouldn’t have trouble persuading the town to
kill these “useless anti-town roles”.
Boom. That’s a lot of people dead. It would take us 4-5 innocent
lynches to take down SouthRawrea, a very good trade off. Like citi.zen
said
Citi.zen:
What worries me here is that if we screw up 3-4 lynches it’s quite
possible we lost.


Hesmyrr
Out of the top 5, Hesmyrr is the most likely to want to pick Traitor.
Because, his role is boring. He is supposed to check to see if
Me/Sub/Chao picked the correct role. Probably getting a vanilla role.
There is a very small chance that he might make a discovery.
On the other hand, he could take traitor, probably won’t be caught,
because really, no one will check him. Perfect position.
The fact that Hesmyrr could be an undetectable traitor is very troubling.

Chaoser, confirmed by Hesmyrr. The chances that Subverion/zeks took
his role and Chaoser took traitor is very slim.
Subverion: Bad Santa is defiantly an interesting role
Zeks: idk
Me: PoD ftw! I haz cool role that the mafia wants badly. Muhhahahahaha!

What happens if we lynch…
SouthRawrea:
He flips Mafia, we know that there isn’t a traitor. (Or,
there is a traitor, but the mafia doesn’t know about it, and the
traitor could be anywhere)
Flips town, we know that there is a traitor.

Hesmyrr
He flips traitor: :D!
Flips town: We know that Chaoser is town.

Confirming Chaoser: It’s quiet easy to confirm Chaoser, we simply tell the CV
“IF you are Chaoser, kill SouthRawrea. IF you are not Chaoser, kill
someone else”

Confirming Me/Zeks/Subverion. It’s a bad idea to tell us to use our
roles. Well, Sub can’t. I’m not dumb, and Zeks should remain hidden.
We could have the role cop check on people’s roles.
That seems good at a glance, but I don’t know if we want to trade our
role cop, for someone that isn’t yet a mafia member and might not
count as a mafia member.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 25 2010 19:16 GMT
#578
After another readthrough. Personally, I think it would be more likely for SR to take vengeful player than traitor.

If that is so, it is not a good idea to lynch SR, because he could just add kp, but rather we should have the CV kill off SR

I want a bit more time before i make a decision
Im 60% sure that SR is the vengeful mafia (a great way to pull off an extra KP, trying to get lynched)
But im going to need more proof
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