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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 26 2010 16:06 GMT
#681
Accuse me will you? Foul beasts, pray tell your reasons! OPZ, thou prince of slinking, slinketh away from mine optimism. Radfield, let your corrpted politician tongue cast its devilry elsewhere. Divine K, irony of hypocrisy wrappeth in sludge, I shall not lynch thee for thy towniness, but for THY Scuminess. Shed your guilt on me for I will bear this burden for my counrty. I mean town. Poor Hesmyrr, deeds forgotten, but must die for sins of another. Hope for his actions being tainted is my desire, justyfying our bloodthirst.

Track mine actions at thy expense, for i will show no mercy. What regret is; nary of my diction.Composure friends, composure!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 26 2010 20:44 GMT
#706
Because he said he picked traitor. And didnt get it. He may die if hes telling the truth (killing hesmyr for reasons stated) or dies for sure if hes not. It just matters what hesmyr picked, CV(which he didnt get) or traitor. Basically vanilla of sorts, or traitor. Neutral/win situation.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 27 2010 05:23 GMT
#764
Wouldnt zeks be a fantastic hit for mafia? Hes got a slim chance of being a traitor, otherwise hes a role cop (maybe). And if mafia hit doesnt go through, we can't really pin him with true blue traitor, because hes like a 30% chance of being vet/BP. Although, mafia does not have to "kill him". If doctor protects him, it still counts as an action being used.

Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. This role is nullified for the Serial Killer(s) since it may be too broken if they have it.


ANY action will make him defect apparently. So they could roleblock, track, protect, watch and yadda yadda, and they get the traitor. It all depends what roles they got, and how they use them.

honeslty, south is a good hit, because hes vanilla. (JUST BECAUSE I SAY VANILLA, DOES NOT MEAN I IMPLY THEY ARE TOWN. DIVINE. THEY COULD BE VANILLA MAFIA)
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 27 2010 05:47 GMT
#766
Though, the likelyhood of zeks being methman should scare mafia from hitting him, id think they would try an action instead. Docs are indeed better off putting their chips in with a 7-10. BB or track me, im number 18, how could I get a KP role without getting mafia I must be a luckier bitch then you will ever be divine. Oh wait, no im not. Silly me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 27 2010 18:29 GMT
#788
It would appear his slinking has come to rest. Vanilla is vanilla unlike chocolate, it is just vanilla. But vanilla can be good or evil, if my philosophy fails me not. Suspicion agreed upon the field of radicals, and the darth in the darth. Accept you yoke of guilt!

Jester you ways are foriegn, but your lake is sound and your babbly logitimicatel pleasent. Though the humor in your face leads me to beleive you dabble in the sardonic? Intriguing.

Perhaps the time is now? Let me check my wrist device... Egad indeed, the time IS now! Good heavens. And undereestimate no role. I recall a life I lead not so long ago. The king was hard, but he has died recently. He graced me with a peculiar item that age. A wooden pedestal of sorts, yet the base spread into the ground like a organism. If I stepped upon the object, my glory of innocence was shown to all the denizens! But alas, the power would absorb me into the wood, and draw my lifeforce into those who would curse what I stood for.

I despised the device. Every day, I cursed its name and poured my malice through its veins. But exposure opens up the mind to all sorts of ideas. Another beside me claimed power, license to kill , he claimed his god would save us. Trust was difficult to come by after what he had wrought, but we agreed. I found power in my object then. I opposed his ideals, with the eagerness to prove my worth brimming with the same hatred I had embeded into the Wood. I was believed, just by the ridiculousness of what I was. "How could one so ignorant be so dangerous" The threat of my role gave me acknowledgement, however foolish the basis of it was. I killed that man, Id like to think.

Hes dead here also, murdered by his own scum brother. I rid myself of their aquaintance. But a lesson is found. Even the weakest townie holds sway just by existence. What he brings to the table is the reason why mafia fear extermination for their foul pacts with satan. Good will prevail with hope in what we can do together. I believe this deity knows of karma.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 17:18 GMT
#845
Time to be useful. I am the god damn batman

BumAtLarge was less tipsy then he wanted to be that night, stumbling around people's backyards. He had his favorite batman mask on of course. He found himself in a bush, right next to zeks' backdoor! What a nice gentleman, always giving bum change. Before bum had the chance to leave the kind man's abode, a spiffy looking fellow came through the backway (only zeks' closest friends came that way). Bum's vision was wiggty-wack, so he couldnt recognize him. Zeks greeted the man late at night with open arms. Soon after a scruffy man with blood in his eyes, looking for answers cam crashing over the fence. he almost ran right into bum, but he was to preoccupied with his mission (whatever that was. Immediately two other men broke from hiding paces, ignoring each other and heading straight through the backdoor. A large tussel took place, and bum was too drunk to actually help (HE WASNT SCARED, HES THE GODDAMN BATMAN)

Moments later, all 4 men left chasing one another into the night. Zeks, alive thank heavens, stared out at them a few seconds with a wide open mouth, that turned into determination rather quickly. He phoned the police, and bum knew better then to loiter much longer.

The next day, zeks stood in trial to decide the truth to his story. It turns out he was a suspect in the mishandling of some docuements, leading people to doubt him. Bum came up as his alter ego, Brum Warge, homeless philosopher extraordinaire. He verified zeks tune, and gave zeks a wink, but zeks was glaring intently ahead, that determined look again. Bum couldn't really sort out zeks motives, as he never finished 3rd grade, but he was willing to put his life in the hands of the town with zeks to authenticate what happened that night.



THE GOD DAMN BATMAN
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 17:38 GMT
#849
Look at pandain trying to play down my awesome, OPZ speaks truth.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 18:22 GMT
#869
On August 29 2010 03:11 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:04 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 29 2010 02:59 Radfield wrote:
So ALL mafia get seen visiting. Now, assuming we had 4 mafia in the game to start, would a watcher see 4 or 3 mafia last night given that a mafia died during the night.

Which is resolved first, mafia dying, or mafia killing?

Well time for Zeks to role claim. xD

He's either BP, or Vet.



Yup, because there are very likely 4 mafia to start, which means no medic visited zeks last night. The watcher role actually comes in handy! I wouldn't have though it possible

I can't believe picks 5 and 6 might have both picked traitor.... so sad. I have a feeling we have very few investigative roles.


Yeah fuck the haters! I figured as #18 it was a free role. And if im high on any 'to-kill' list because of this one instance, fine by me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 18:29 GMT
#875
On August 29 2010 01:12 chaoser wrote:
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On August 29 2010 00:30 LSB wrote:
On August 28 2010 14:44 SiNiquity wrote:
On August 28 2010 12:18 citi.zen wrote:
Also, given how fast he claimed, I doubt he is the traitor - too little time to come up with such a plan.


I disagree with this as well. Suppose you're traitor, and the town's on to you (i.e. you're in the top 5). It's night, you have a chance to be recruited, and you know Night ends at 9 PM EST. You check the thread, refreshing every few minutes to see what happened. Night post goes up and you see the following things:

  • Only kill was on a scum (clearly not the mafia hit)
  • You've received a PM that you've been recruited


It's very easy to put two and two together and realize what happened (you took the hit and got recruited). Night post was at 10:06, Zeks claimed at 10:17. 11 minutes (+/- 1 minute). Heck, even a Mafia watching the events unfold could've PM'ed to Zeks to claim the hit. Plenty of time.

Don't mistake this for me saying that Zeks is absolutely the traitor -- I just don't agree with the conclusion you've reached (i.e. that he's most likely not the traitor) based on the fact that he claimed quickly.

Bed for real now

11 minutes actually is quite a long time if you think about it. In other games where I F5F5F5F5, I'd check my pms, and get a post in by a minute.
Sure you can 'discuss stuff'. But discussion should take pretty long. Disclosing info on the other hand is a pretty spurr of the moment decision.


If you played Mafia XXVIII (I think? The last one) BC claimed he got hit like RIGHT after the night post and he was GF so...yeah.

But BC actually got hit that game and got protected. So...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 19:18 GMT
#887
On August 29 2010 04:04 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 03:53 Radfield wrote:
I love PYP Mafia, it's just so much fun

Citizen, I'm interested to hear your thoughts. Anyone seem particularly pro- or anti- town. If you had to make a list of people to be investigated, who would be on it?

Also, can someone please comment on the case I made for Zeks being traitor.

I want Zeks to claim first, this could shed a lot of light.

Reasons why Zeks could have survived the night:
1) He is the SK
2) He is Bulletproof
3) He is the Traitor
4) Doctor protected him (highly unlikely)

Zeks probably will claim Bulletproof. Once he claims bulletproof, we can watch to see if someone else claims bulletproof, or if someone claims they drafted bulletproof and didn't get it.


Why is doctor highly unlikely? 4 people visited him, Id put a lot of money into one of those being a doctor. Hes a good target to be hit, as a chief power blue pick, and now he could be traitor. Im thinking mafia have a roleblocker, hit him with the roleblock, and in case he wasnt traitor, nailed him with the hit to bypass the defense chances.

Also, Ace, what happens if SK gets roleblocked? That would give zeks exemption from the SK role, if he wouldnt have been able to hit anyone, or be bulletproof.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 19:20 GMT
#888
Confirmed by Ace: All of the Mafia visit when they kill a target (makes sense - this is Mafia, not Assassin).


Oh I had no clue :X nevermind me lol
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 19:55 GMT
#899
Why would mafia hit zeks if they knew his role? I guess I kinda confirmed hes a defense role, since he survived after 4 people visited, and now that seems unlikely its anything but a red visit.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 19:59 GMT
#901
On August 29 2010 04:52 LSB wrote:
Here's what I think. It seems so Obvious, I'm facepalming myself for not noticing it.

Subversion Picked Rolecop. I am 100% certain, he is mafia, Rolecop is THE town role here.
We should have already figured that out
This is confirmed because Zeks claims that he has a role that the mafia wants dead.

But was blocked, so mafia knows that Zeks is Rolecop
Mafia tries to kill Zeks

But! Zeks is actually Serial Killer. So it doesn't work!!
Zeks CANNOT claim, because we know that a doctor couldn't have protected him.

##VOTE: Zeks Because he is Serial Killer.

Note, SK will not work for us, he is decidedly anti town


Yeah, either that or traitor. This makes alot of sense.

##Vote: Zeks

Thanks for all the alms though, guess what they say about nice guys being the most dangerous is true. If he is SK, it would make me look bad :X DO NOT HURT THE BATMAN!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 20:01 GMT
#904
On August 29 2010 04:59 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 04:56 LSB wrote:
On August 29 2010 04:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Why would mafia hit zeks if they knew his role? I guess I kinda confirmed hes a defense role, since he survived after 4 people visited, and now that seems unlikely its anything but a red visit.

Exactly! Mafia would only hit zeks if they knew he was the rolecop!

But then why did he survive?
Because he's the serial killer


But he's the rolecop.

Therefore, Zeks claim serial killer rolecop or we lynch you. As you very well know if town loses, you do as well. Help us find the scum.

Or you can continue to be ambiguious, and maybe we'll believe you.
But I doubt that's going to happen.

Don't lynch zeks, even if he's serial killer, he's still rolecop.


Hes not going to going to help us, because we will not let him achieve his goal. Hes better off lying from now on, hitting townies and helping mafia. He needs to die.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 28 2010 23:37 GMT
#973
It could be my clever mafia ploy to kill the sk *shifty eyes*

sometimes batman must act bad to be good!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 29 2010 00:26 GMT
#976
Look at darth trying to downplay what i did. How could I not have claimed without sealing that deal? SK will die (hopefully) because of me. And declaring people as town is FoS in my book, Ive seen and done it all too often. Hell call anyone scum, but watch what you say about clean people.

I dont really need medic protection unless we plan something, oh what kill are we missing? If I die kill darth, divine, pandain. YEAH THATS RIGHT KILL EM.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 29 2010 00:50 GMT
#979
Look at divine with his half assed post, i corrected myself the post below that, and zeks clearly stated that sub was vanilla because he tried for his role, so scum knew he was role cop. They know hes SK, or protected. Maybe yo should read through before you post instigative shit butt munch.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 29 2010 03:54 GMT
#1008
On August 29 2010 12:30 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 09:26 bumatlarge wrote:
Look at darth trying to downplay what i did. How could I not have claimed without sealing that deal? SK will die (hopefully) because of me. And declaring people as town is FoS in my book, Ive seen and done it all too often. Hell call anyone scum, but watch what you say about clean people.

I dont really need medic protection unless we plan something, oh what kill are we missing? If I die kill darth, divine, pandain. YEAH THATS RIGHT KILL EM.

? At the time of your post, it didn't make sense for you to claim like you did. Especially since you were trying to clear zeks as an innocent, when he's either SK or traitor. You watched zeks and saw 4 people visit him. You assumed it was mafia, doctor, role cop, and some other role, when it was just mafia (Ace hadn't clarified at the time). So what did you accomplish? Aside from outting yourself, all you said was, "zeks was visited by 4 people." What happened as a result of that is great, but it's not something you had planned, and so from that perspective, the claim wasn't effective.


Why not? We then could have specific roles to choose from to do certain things, and know our blues werent complete flukes. We could call one the "zeks doctor" to protect so and so. "person who tracked/checked/othered zeks" could be bidden to do such and such. Sure it would be incovenient to have had roles overlap on zeks, but i think I was obligated to inform the town regardless.

Plus, I think everyone was convinced watcher was useless. Now mafia can decide to hit me or not, while originally I was an 'unlikely blue'. They waste a shot on me, we can threaten to protect me, or both factions will ignore me. Stop trying to pin shit on me. What I did was justified scum. 4 mafias my ass, had to let that one slip gracefully didnt ya.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 29 2010 05:08 GMT
#1026
Rofl, thanks pandain thanks a bunch.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 29 2010 06:20 GMT
#1043
fuck yeah metagames, stuff i suck at. Honestly bad luck zeks, getting that placement and being a center of attention.
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