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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 21 2010 20:51 GMT
#261
On August 22 2010 05:48 Bill Murray wrote:
all in favor of lynching citi.zen say I


I think we should wait till we get our actual roles first.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 21 2010 20:52 GMT
#262
the 8 people who haven't claimed have mafia in there, obviously. Radfield is worried about how mafia can double up with town, but the people who are doubling up with people are obviously going to be our lynch candidates (after someone who lied to us about what numbers theyre picking)

the reason for this plan was simple: last game the mafia were in doubled up numbers singularly. They weren't going to be picking the same numbers as a teammate. If the only doubled up numbers have people who claimed they were picking that number and one person who did it without claiming anything and without working with the town whatsoever, who are we going to lynch? the uncooperative person.

If you're in the 8 people and you want to be in the top 12, challenge someone for their number or something. A good old fashioned game of rock, paper, scissors could do the trick. We really need you 8 to claim, and act like you want to help the town.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 21 2010 20:52 GMT
#263
What numbers have you/or are you going to send in southrawrea?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 21 2010 21:02 GMT
#264
2/9. I was lieing just in case we were going to switch plans haha.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 21 2010 21:03 GMT
#265
EBWOP I might have to switch because of DTA though. Didn't realize he chose 2 as well.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 21 2010 21:04 GMT
#266
On August 22 2010 06:02 SouthRawrea wrote:
2/9. I was lieing just in case we were going to switch plans haha.


Switch it, DTA already has that. You could've always just switched your numbers if we did change plan -.-
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 21 2010 21:05 GMT
#267
Okay I'll go for numero 10 and switch my other numba to be secritz.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 21 2010 21:12 GMT
#268
On August 22 2010 06:05 SouthRawrea wrote:
Okay I'll go for numero 10 and switch my other numba to be secritz.


You have from 13-20.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 21 2010 21:38 GMT
#269
Some players still haven't posted yet so I think they haven't visited the forum. I'll extend the deadline again by 24 hours because I don't want to stop the game. Anyone that's not currently in the game but wants to play please PM me so I can add you to the replacement queue. Thanks..
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
August 21 2010 21:48 GMT
#270
Almost done reading the thread now.
I guess I'll be # 13?

You know not everyone is as free as you think they might be. Especially when I had no idea when this game would start.

*BM is in this game...
靈魂交響曲
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 21 2010 22:08 GMT
#271
Lynch me, I don't care. I just don't see why some of you are pushing to pre-asign people to roles. The people doing the organizating aren't confirmed. The town shouldn't care who gets what. The real discussion starts after we have our draft list.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 21 2010 22:27 GMT
#272
On August 22 2010 07:08 citi.zen wrote:
Lynch me, I don't care. I just don't see why some of you are pushing to pre-asign people to roles. The people doing the organizating aren't confirmed. The town shouldn't care who gets what. The real discussion starts after we have our draft list.


We're not pushing anyone to pick any one thing. We're making sure the town gets what the town needs. The town will care about that.

Also, its good we have an extra 24 hours. Now we have even more time to get this plan rollin'
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
August 21 2010 22:39 GMT
#273
This is stupid. What we should be doing is finalizing an algorithm for the draft pick itself (ala Radfield's weighted algorithm), because picking roles here is what will actually matter.

If you all are so insistent about everyone having a unique #, then the correct way to do this would be to use the pre-assigned player list and have everyone pick what # you got when you signed up, as that list is the only unbiased one.

Flaws with the current plan:

  • Mafia started the push knowing they had several players towards the top already, and could simply argue first come first serve.

or
  • they caught on quickly and managed to get several players towards the top.


Furthermore, if Mafia has the #1 pick, then we won't know the CV. Here's how it goes down. The #1 pick "allegedly" picks CV but actually picks something else, and let's CV slide down to some other Mafia member. CV plays along for a bit, but at any moment can switch to another player without fear of retribution.

I'll tell you what number I picked once the draft is finalized, which is how this should go down if this announcing bit even goes down at all.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 21 2010 22:41 GMT
#274
Why do need a pre-asigned draft order?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
August 21 2010 22:44 GMT
#275
On August 22 2010 07:27 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 07:08 citi.zen wrote:
Lynch me, I don't care. I just don't see why some of you are pushing to pre-asign people to roles. The people doing the organizating aren't confirmed. The town shouldn't care who gets what. The real discussion starts after we have our draft list.


We're not pushing anyone to pick any one thing. We're making sure the town gets what the town needs. The town will care about that.

Please explain how the current "pick a # not already picked" plan is in any way pro-town. For all I know Mafia has the top 5 stacked. Or maybe they don't. Who cares?

What matters is how we pick once the draft is finalized.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
August 21 2010 22:49 GMT
#276
On August 22 2010 07:41 citi.zen wrote:
Why do need a pre-asigned draft order?


We don't. But if people really want there to be no collisions in the picking, then the fair way to do that would be the player list. Could there be Mafia in the top 10? Sure. Hell the Mafia could control the top of the player list. But I'd rather trust my luck to a random assignment than the current first-come-first-serve model.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 21 2010 22:50 GMT
#277
On August 22 2010 07:39 SiNiquity wrote:
If you all are so insistent about everyone having a unique #, then the correct way to do this would be to use the pre-assigned player list and have everyone pick what # you got when you signed up, as that list is the only unbiased one.


I second this idea.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 21 2010 22:52 GMT
#278
I'm going to wait until majority of the people agree this is the plan though. Nothing is worse than meaninglessly jumbling the numbers around.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
August 21 2010 22:52 GMT
#279
EBWOP

This is not to say I'm advocating the player list model over all others; I'm simply advocating it over the current model. Personally I say keep your # to yourself. We flesh out the picking algorithm and follow that tomorrow..
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 21 2010 23:16 GMT
#280
On August 22 2010 07:52 SiNiquity wrote:
EBWOP

This is not to say I'm advocating the player list model over all others; I'm simply advocating it over the current model. Personally I say keep your # to yourself. We flesh out the picking algorithm and follow that tomorrow..


So your post is saying we should do Radfield's plan,but keep numbers hidden?
Or do you propose we scrap the plan altogether?
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