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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 01:34 GMT
#781
On August 08 2010 10:29 BrownBear wrote:
really its between BM and Love1another. The people voting for Roffles are mostly just placeholders/people who don't care about the day 1 lynch.


What are your thoughts on the two candidates then? I see you are voting Iaaan who is going to be modkilled.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 01:39 GMT
#782
On August 08 2010 10:33 chaoser wrote:
It's not even close, it's just 10 v 6. I feel like if it was closer we would learn a lot more. IE if one was mafia, people would move late in the day to save them.

Ehhh... I am game

9 v 7
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 01:44 GMT
#784
BTW, I feel really dirty for doing that, after posting this
On August 06 2010 14:08 rastaban wrote:
Regarding inactivity, last game both SouthRawea and Xelin were very inactive, if we had lynched them earlier for this we would have gotten the IT before he had a chance to wreck us. instead we pushed for supposedly obvious lynches. Day 2, not a single person on the kill list was mafia. Mafia can be quiet as well.

The reason for lynching inactives is because it forces activity which is good for the town. Regardless of your alignment if you are not posting and barely contributing you are anti-town. The Traitor role is added to games because having even one town person trying cause problems can balance a game where the mafia is too weak. Every person who creates chaos for sake of chaos or who hides and doesn't post is effectively playing a traitor role. The town feels good if a lynch gets the traitor even though he isn't technically red. For some players even if they flip green town should cheer because at least we got traitor even if in name only.

If everyone is active then sure, lets look at posts for day one, but if we have inactives you can be sure I will be voting for them because regardless of how they flip the town is better off.

Sorry for the rant, but is something I have been pondering for a while and wanted to share.


But I guess if we can flesh out mafia then it is a good thing. Last game us mafia spread out on the first vote since everyone was innocent... so only time will tell what we have here.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 02:04 GMT
#790
On August 08 2010 11:02 chaoser wrote:
why did you switch and then switch back rastaban -_-

To try and screw up flamewheels count. I started the bandwagon on love1another so I thought I should see it through since no one else seemed to think making the vote tallies closer to see what we could glean was worth while.

In fact no one jumping at all or commenting is a little odd, if he flips town it might be useful to know later...
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 02:05 GMT
#791
P.S. I don't think SR is no one but he didn't comment about the actual change just my wording
P.S.S. I still love you mafia buddy
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 02:12 GMT
#800
blech, yeah at least they weren't blue...

Well I guess that means no more jewels like this:

A full listing of love1anothers words this thread

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2010 20:43 love1another wrote:
OH WOW I SEE THIS THREAD! /in!


On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote:
I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz


On August 07 2010 11:02 love1another wrote:
Damn it, I'm not a lurker. I'm in Shanghai so my hours are completely different from you guys. That doesn't make me a mafia!


On August 07 2010 22:08 love1another wrote:
Bill Murray. I believe you! *wink* *wink*

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 02:17 GMT
#802
On August 08 2010 11:13 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 11:07 BrownBear wrote:
On August 08 2010 11:06 Divinek wrote:
so we only had 1 mod kill so far, that means darth is winning the bet if no one else gets the thunder...


Hehe I have no chance of winning. 5 modkills in one game would be ridiculous.

I've killed six off in a 30 game before.

Relevant Posts.


I cant... stop... watching.....

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 05:02 GMT
#815
On August 08 2010 13:08 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 12:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 08 2010 11:51 Bill Murray wrote:
i told you all we should have lynched foolishness or someone who is actually red

shall we lynch foolishness together tomorrow?

Aren't you supposed to be arguing with BM? I recall you making multiple posts about how when BM flips red I'm for sure his mafia buddy. Which is strange as a whole since BM has been actively opposing me for a while now...but I guess that's just cause he realized you were obviously townie so he turned to look at the next best player who could be mafia and here I was!

Say, have you dared to notice how this thread has been dominated by the same 10ish people? I mean surely you have to have realized that you've been holding conversations in the thread with the same people over and over and over again.

I only happened to take notice when I decided to make a list of the inactive/lurkers. And I got 16-20 people on that list, give or take.

And now I beg to wonder...when you, BM, Divinek, Pandain, and youngminii are through killing each other off, how you going to find the rest of the mafia? Do you even have any idea who among the lurkers is probably innocent and who's suspicious? Probably not because you're busy formulating the town plan and looking at the active players (there's nothing wrong with this at all, I'm just saying how it is).

Now it seems very reasonable to me (and I'd hope a few others) that all you goody active players just toss your ego's aside for a moment and take care to notice of the fact that good players who are normally active are pretty much mia this entire game (i.e. Chezinu, Infundibulum, DTA). Not to mention some veteran is smurfing under the name VayeshMoru. Perhaps we should be looking here since when the lot of you are finish killing yourselves off the town is going to be screwed. And I do realize that there's a better chance I'm going to invent a perpetual motion device tomorrow than of this happening, but I guess I just secretly hope someone takes note of this and learns from it.

I don't see any reason why this game isn't a repeat of the one BM hosted. Mafia sit back and do nothing and watch town kill themselves. Yes I realize it got a tad bit complicated in the middle but still.

I know you're probably thinking at some point "Well hey Foolishness, you are normally more active that you're currently being why should we pay more attention to Chezinu than you?" Truth is, I don't have time to deal with all your "town plans" that probably aren't going to work and your suspicions against me. I got a job to do, I'm weeding out mafia members among the lurkers. And that's what I do best. It's day one and I don't got much to go on since nobody is pressuring any of the lurkers, but I'd like to think I'm getting somewhere with it. And there are more than enough people that can vouch that I'm active in PM land.

You go do what you do. I'm going to go do what I do. I'll talk to you when it's necessary and I have information. If you or BM or anyone keep taking one-liner shots at me in the thread, don't expect a response, I don't have the time.


Hmm some valid points here. The fact that we spent the last 25 pages arguing over 4 plans and none came to fruition lends his post some credence. What do we need to do to get the other players talking more. I guess lynch inactive people...

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 15:23 GMT
#838
On August 09 2010 00:04 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 15:40 bumatlarge wrote:
Chezinu is awesome.


but enough about that, how is this watcher plan going to go through, LSB's way?

I wouldn't recommend it. My plan relys on complete town cohesion. Every single blue role must participate, or else it fails.

The problem is, people have been accusing each other distracting from forming a plan. Certainly someone in there is doing this deliberatively, in order for us to win, we have to work together and random accusations distracts us.

Just proceed as normal. I'll try to push my plan tomorrow


One other thing to remember is some of the blues may be the inactive ones, thinking day 1 doesn't matter too much. They may have skipped over the plans or already sent in their night actions. Since the ground work is laid if we start tomorrow we can get things straightened out sooner which should help with getting the town organized
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 08 2010 21:02 GMT
#863
On August 09 2010 05:48 BrownBear wrote:
I've been thinking about it, trying to find a hole in it for the last hour or so, and so far I find it foolproof. Doesn't mean there isn't a hole, just means I haven't found one

I'm alright with it. Let's do it!


I can think of a couple flaws.

Mafia claims Watcher, which is which?
Roles already sent their PMs in
We have random townies showing up
We have more than 1 Watcher
We have more than 1 Tracker,DT, Medic
Target gets framed so we lynch xelin and we don't know which blue we can't trust.

This is why a simple version is better
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 03:57 GMT
#965
Well it looks like we lucked out to a degree on our night kills. Also we now look at having the vigilante claim so we can bus him. If we follow this plan then we can look at having a confirmed townie and possibly roleclaiming to him.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 04:16 GMT
#973
On August 09 2010 13:15 Roffles wrote:
You guys suck, where are my PMs?


I don't PM people with unique icons, they seem to be too good for the rest of us
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 06:38 GMT
#1057
On August 09 2010 13:59 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 13:54 youngminii wrote:
Oh okay EXCUSE ME for trying to spam less, I'll be sure to go back to my last game style and spam the crap out of this thread.

I've been busy with uni, thank you very much. And what have you contributed besides accusing me? Fake claiming doesn't count.


well so far you have been playing very different than you usually do man

where's the young we know and love with his big red bold lists

and his 'im gonna get you lynched motherfucker' attitude



YM, you are completely different this game, I don't mean to bandwagon you but you need to shape up or it is the rope for you. There is no majority lynch this game so you have plenty of time to defend yourself and convince us, if you are legit.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 16:00 GMT
#1082
On August 10 2010 00:59 SouthRawrea wrote:
Question: Why is Youngminii tied for votes against Bill Murray? Something is wrong here. If there is a reason for those votes please tell us. This would've probably been brought up later once the vote count came in.


Are you asking for why the votes are on YM or BM? if YM i can answer, if BM... I guess they don't want YM lynched
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 16:09 GMT
#1084
On August 10 2010 01:08 youngminii wrote:
Oh yeah rastaban, good work coming up with solid reasoning, maybe you should have talked a little more with your scummates first. The votes on BM came before the votes on me. Both bandwagons are dumb.

I'd like to direct your attention to foolishness, stop voting uselessly on me and BM please. Kthx.

Worried that your hit last night didn't finish the job?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 16:16 GMT
#1085
Here are my two biggest reasons
1) Completely different play style than when he is playing as town. you say that you are trying to play different this game but that brings us to the second big thing.
2) Minimal contributions, you could still be helping the town, but so far you have not contributed much, it seems your biggest posts are the ones defending yourself.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 16:55 GMT
#1095
On August 10 2010 01:50 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 01:47 tree.hugger wrote:
On August 10 2010 01:34 youngminii wrote:
^ I'm all for that plan but I don't understand why you're jumping on the bandwagon. There hasn't been any substantial evidence against me, all that's been said is that "I've been playing differently". I don't even, what kind of argument is that. I can't even comprehend how I got 3 or 4 votes on me, that's just dumb.

Just watch when foolishness flips GF it'll all be fine. I suppose defending love1another doesn't buy me any townie points does it. Not that any of you can remember, since apparently I haven't posted anything.

The difference between your play this game, and your play last game is really really suspicious. There's a massive FoS on you, and you're acting like a child, throwing suspicion around and trying to get back at the people who accused you.

Plus, I'll use the same argument I used last time, if we lynch you, it confirms a lot of people. I guess you could say the same thing about BM, but I'm pretty sure BM is mafia, while you've looked nothing but suspicious from the first minute of the game.

Pretty sure BM *isn't mafia.


Thanks, I was confused for a moment,

Bum you are correct, only way foolishness could be mafia is if he is GF.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 20:27 GMT
#1131
On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.

Oh well.


Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed.


uhg... maybe in your previous games they have all been roleplaying games. But you don't have to stay in character here.

We need real content not just stories, and I know you are thinking that it is clever hiding stuff in them but we don't know what is real and what isn't. It ends up being no better than getting clues that the mafia can twist.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 20:32 GMT
#1135
On August 10 2010 05:31 VayeshMoru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 05:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:27 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On August 10 2010 05:13 VayeshMoru wrote:
On August 10 2010 04:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:
OI. you're right. If DT checked him. Lol.

Oh well.


Simple mistake to make. One must learn to read the past to make sense of the path we walk on. That is why a scribe has been needed.

Still...Again, what if the DT's didn't follow the plan?


Then a watcher would not have found the detective. A tracker in this case would be all that is needed to prove his legitimacy.

To prove Xelin's legitimacy? What if Xelin is Nosy Neighbor/Framer?


Does not matter. You fail to see the logic in this. A framer followed leads to a dead victim, not who he framed. The tracker would prove xelin town if xelin went out. No?


Chezinu can you confirm this since you are the tracker?
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
August 09 2010 23:01 GMT
#1191
On August 10 2010 07:51 XeliN wrote:
How long do we have left of today?


Day ends in 27 hours I think...
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
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