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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 02:04 GMT
#211
actually now that i see the 2 people that voted for him maybe they just know he's a spammy-tard sometimes..?

im not sure (or they actually followed the whole game)
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 02:15 GMT
#218
can we wagon on misder yet
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 02:20 GMT
#221
darth are you gonna play normal this game, or at least not like last game

pleeeeeeease
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 03:01 GMT
#229
On August 06 2010 11:56 LSB wrote:
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On August 06 2010 11:35 DarthThienAn wrote:
On August 06 2010 11:20 Divinek wrote:
darth are you gonna play normal this game, or at least not like last game

pleeeeeeease


I don't know what you're talking about.

Just thinking about balance, I think it's likely that we have 1 of each blue role? And probably 3-4 ninjas in the game, I'd lean toward 3. Look here for a comparison. Ninjas = Assassins, essentially.

With a roleblocker + framer, something like 7 to 9 blue roles sounds right. Framer essentially replaces millers from previous games, except gives a little more power to the mafia. Roleblocker is standard. What makes things interesting is the ninjas. Not sure how that messes up balance.

Discussion, go!


And for the record: I am always for lynching inactives.

Here's what I'm thinking.

Okay, I'm still looking through that game, but it seems like the Assassin's War (dune ;P) ended too early for any real damage to be dealt.

Ninja's could be an extreamly powerful weapon if they decided to ally with a faction in exchange for protection.

Ninja Ally's with Mafia: We're screwed. The mafia gets a nice Vigilante/DT rolled into one, and the Ninja get's protection from Mafia night kills, and hopes the other Ninja's die before he does.

Ninja Ally's with Town: Town can arrange Medic Protection, and the Ninja can draw upon the DT. So basically invincible ninja. The town gets the Vigilante/DT.

Ninja gets caught by the DT: This would be the best case scenario. The DT could threaten to expose the Ninja, so the Ninja is forced to ally with the DT.

So basically we have to identify the Ninja's ASAP and get them under Town control


or they could just play normally and not listen to anyone and do as their role meant to do

it would be ridiculous for them to try and coordinate with town, obviously easy to do with mafia once they found them but...why would they do this?

it'd be a perfectly dick way to ruin a game
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 03:07 GMT
#233
damn bm's reads are off to a good start

seriously if i was mafia i wouldnt have said anything and pushed to have him killed n1

obviously this is a wifom thing to analyze now that ive actually said it but yeah
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 03:10 GMT
#237
On August 06 2010 12:08 Bill Murray wrote:
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On August 06 2010 12:07 Divinek wrote:
damn bm's reads are off to a good start

seriously if i was mafia i wouldnt have said anything and pushed to have him killed n1

obviously this is a wifom thing to analyze now that ive actually said it but yeah

glad you're being honest with that first line. second line is bullshit, and is a lie. if you were mafia, you would be doing what you're doing, because you are mafia.



it's not a lie but believe what you believe

can we make a sig bet on if im mafia or not?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 03:29 GMT
#249
On August 06 2010 12:26 Bill Murray wrote:
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On August 06 2010 12:24 bumatlarge wrote:
On August 06 2010 12:03 Bill Murray wrote:
I proclaim the Random Voting Stage hereby dead.
I am voting not for randomness, but because I actually believe Divinek is Mafia.


RNG is pure evil, agreed.

Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler +
bulous opinion maker <3


But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head.

you wouldn't be his scumbuddy trying to dissuade me would you?



i think bum still wants me to die based on a past game
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 04:15 GMT
#264
On August 06 2010 13:07 Foolishness wrote:
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On August 06 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote:
On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land


Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role.

I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of.

Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski.


i got quite the interesting vibe thus far as well.

also good plan bm now that everyone knows it you can enact your super secret plan B right! If you were doing what you said you were doing, then obviously telling everyone that's what you were doing makes it a lie doesnt it? (since you openly told people before the entire point of the plan happened, you clearly didnt intend to do what you were saying you were) Or it makes you really stupid.

lynch all liars as they say right
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 04:16 GMT
#265
On August 06 2010 13:14 youngminii wrote:
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On August 06 2010 13:07 Foolishness wrote:
On August 06 2010 12:53 Pandain wrote:
On August 06 2010 12:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Pandain is #2 on my suspect list behind Divinek due to PM-land


Says the guy trying to get me to reveal my role.

I think we should seriously take a look at this brodooski...he's yet to make any real contribution, despite an overflowing of posts. He got pretty defensive when divinek voted for him, which isn't fool proof I know, but it's definitely something to take note of.

Bill Murray, I may not have any idea how you're playing these days, but I'd totally support you against this brodooski.

Naw Pandain played like this last game. I thought it was scummy too and that evidence was supported by a freaking DT check but he ended up flipping miller. I mean I was so sure he was scum...


but that makes you wonder what he'd give off if he was actually scum doesnt it
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 04:58 GMT
#282
On August 06 2010 13:56 Protactinium wrote:
Sorry, I feel like derailing for just one little moment to boost my ego.
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 12:26 tree.hugger wrote:
...
And BC n' co. needed Subversion to run naked through the town with "DT" painted in blue on his chest before they hit someone of consequence. The mafia sucked at blue sniping last game.

Are you sure about that, tree.hugger?

Disregarding the bomb, detail to me how all the blues were dead by Night 4. Explain to me how Roffles died Night 2, and how we hit a Veteran night 1. And no, I didn't need Subversion to "run naked" through the metaphorical town. We could have killed him any time we wanted. BloodyC0bbler had the blue roster being lakrismamma/sINiquity/bumatlarge (two for three). d3 was read for a vet, and Divinek claimed. The only ones we didn't figure out were the two town KP roles, and there was no need to. Only reason we "sucked" at blue sniping by your definition was because we were nerfed by having 2 KP instead of 3, and having two veterans and two medics makes for permanently invincible people if not stacked. Add to that the fact that if you hit somebody and they survive, they are confirmed town due to the fact that Mafia cannot hit their own. Think about all that, and then tell us again that Mafia sucked at bluesniping last game.

Alright, just wanted to say that. Enjoy the game!


do you seriously not know what a pm is
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 06 2010 23:58 GMT
#455
On August 06 2010 23:14 XeliN wrote:
For the record in my brief experience of playing mafia games I know mafia HATE suggestions of mass role claiming, I am far more suspicious of Pyrr's extreme vehemence against the idea than I am of Bills suggestion.

Not entirely sure it would work, in truth I havent actually read the post Bill made yet, but just wanted to say Mafia typically hate the idea of town mass roleclaiming, it forces them into a difficult position where they have to be very careful about what they post//claim.

Although the fact this is a closed setup (role amounts arn't revealed) makes a mass claim strategy flawed from the outset.

Also be dubious of people attempting to cast extreme suspicion on others this early in the game, A good example of such would be:

"I think BM is very likely to live for a couple of days, but if things start going downhill he should be somewhere on the top of our hitlists"


so you mean casting extreme suspicion like bm straight up calling me mafia?

On August 06 2010 23:54 rastaban wrote:
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On August 06 2010 23:48 KF91 wrote:
Just saw this in the voting thread:

On August 06 2010 23:21 love1another wrote:
##vote rastaban

Fuck you rastaban for voting me.


First a one-liner in the game thread then a reactive vote towards someone because they were voting a reactive. Mafia or not, this is just being useless to the town :/


On August 06 2010 23:44 chaoser wrote:
On August 06 2010 23:41 KF91 wrote:
On August 06 2010 23:34 rastaban wrote:
the other option is that if we have a counter claim we protect neither and have them both shoot each other, the vig dies taking out a red. I almost like this plan method better.


But what are going to do for Day 2/Night 2? It's not like we have an endless supply of vigis to keep this plan going. And losing our vigi on Night 1 doesn't sound good to me. Although most of the time, vigis prove to be useless in catching the mafia, sometimes they can pull it off.

I am definitely against vigis roleclaiming on Day 1.


Well vigi's real role is just a mafia and be done with it so a 1 for 1 trade is pretty good actually.


Hm, this would be the best scenario, but how are we going to guarantee a counter-claim from the mafia? And I just read this:

You may not use your ability on night 1 because you are too busy out combing Wal-Mart for hockey pants.


So rastaban, your plan can't be implemented until Night 2 :/



Good catch on the Vigi exception I had forgot about it, I guess I just outed myself as a non-vigi looks like we wait until day 2 to consider this plan.

Also you just ninja'd my post about love1, I now am 100% convinced you are a ninja, don't deny it



you didnt out yourself as anything because even a vigi could not have noticed that yet! they wouldnt find out for sure until they tried to pop someone night 1 if they hadnt noticed, but i still believe you

On August 07 2010 01:08 rastaban wrote:
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On August 07 2010 00:52 Misder wrote:
On August 06 2010 23:49 chaoser wrote:
From what I see, bad plan. So much risk for the town while the mafia has to give a small effort to make sure that the town is screwed over.

- If mafia roleclaims as a blue, this plan won't work period.
- If a real blue does roleclaim, but the bus driver buses the wrong person, we could hit another blue (Perhaps one of out DTs or medics)
- The mafia has power-roles that could turn this plan onto the town and the town could be lynching townies on Day 2/3 depending on if this plan is actually implemented.

IMO, single roleclaims=bad at any point of the game. Or actually, any type of roleclaims; while it may prove useful to the town, it will always help mafia in killing blues.


From where I'm looking at it right now, there's actually very little risk.

Vigi pops someone night one
Vigi claims.
There is going to be a counterclaim
We lynch one of them, if we lynch real vigi, then the other claimer is mafia
If we lynch mafia, then it's 90% sure that the other claimer is vigi unless if two mafia claim/counterclaim, but then the REAL vigi would claim too.

And so either way mafia need to come out of the woodworks to fuck the plan up.and they end up exposed.


Doesn't this still raise the risk of Vigi hitting a blue role though? I thought that was the reason that Vigi doesn't hit as soon as possible.


Well he can't hit tonight so we don't have to worry about it for now. I would prefer they claim while they have their shot, and then we use it to verify them if their are counter claims. If we wait until after they shoot then we can use this plan until day/night 3

If we just have them claim tomorrow then they can shoot the other claimant that night or if it isn't counter claimed we enact the plan.


we cannot do this before they shoot because then they WILL be roleblocked, because it could save a mafia and it makes the vig unable to confirm himself LOL, plan screwed

hey lets look at larjarse's latest posts!

On August 07 2010 01:54 larjarse wrote:
TBH rastaban is also looking quite suspicious. He is trying to do so much planning as a townie. I WANT THE MAN DEAD


retarded spam

On August 07 2010 02:11 larjarse wrote:
Valid point, rastaban. I am just G checking you to get some text.. As you can see, I haven't change my vote.



retarded spam

On August 07 2010 01:50 larjarse wrote:
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On August 06 2010 23:18 love1another wrote:
I'm a confirmed townie please. Don't kill me plz


LOLing that noone said anything about this. And once he proclaimed that he is a townie, he was voted by rastaban and chaoser. Suspiciousssoo


blah blah blah it's been said before

On August 06 2010 15:04 larjarse wrote:
Can you stop talking about previous games? It kind of ruins the fun.


spammmmm

On August 06 2010 14:57 larjarse wrote:
I would say BillMurray's concern about not being randomly voted to be killed justifies that he probably isn't a Townie.


what the fuck does this even mean? lol

it loosk like a reason without a reason

On August 06 2010 14:44 larjarse wrote:
BTW this leaves BillMurray and divinek tied at 3 votes each.


blah blah we can all read dude

ok you're getting my vote until you actually fucking post some content

On August 07 2010 03:13 chaoser wrote:
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On August 07 2010 02:26 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Okay. Vigi should claim Day 2 IMO because he can't use his night kill til night 2. The vigi can openly suggest his target, meds protect target. If 2 people die that night, and dude is protected from a hit then BAM, we have a huge circle formed with meds confirming the vigi, DT's can openly claim to vigi or use a mouth, Bus Driver should stay hidden I feel...except to maybe the meds.

And if it is a mafia ploy? We'd have netted two mafia. The fake vigi claimer, and the dude who was hit by the vigi because he would have to have been protected. All medics should protect the guy getting vigi'd so they get the protection message, or mafia would have to use all KP to stop the plan, GIVING us quite a few more days...


Two points though 1) mafia's got a roleblocker so they could just block the vigi that claims. 2) If mafia stack hits on people then the plan might get thrown out of whack.


bus driver can avoid the stacking problem on the vigi, but yes he can be roleblocked so this is not possible. Not only can he be roleblocked he WILL

On August 07 2010 03:44 rastaban wrote:
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On August 07 2010 03:42 SouthRawrea wrote:
They get two shots btw and Pyrr... nvm not gonna spoil a possible plan of his if the slip was intentional.


You only have one pair of chopsticks though (meaning two!), so think carefully before throwing one! (You throw them one at a time)

whoa you are right, I completely misunderstood that line, so yeah indiscriminate killing is a go.


i dont think the ninjas would want to start throwing sticks until they find another ninja for sure

or use ALL of their checks to eliminate as many suspects as possible

so we wont see any killings from them for a bit

On August 07 2010 05:22 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
ebwop: i should say the other thing sticking out is love1another.

though i think i played a game with him previously and he did the same exact thing, more or less. i'm pretty sure he was town then.


he's being a useless fuck and i want to vote for him but i also want MISDER to talk more

it's also important to remember guys

dont vote for people, or leave your vote on someone that is going to be mod killed. Since we're already getting 100% info out of that death it is far better to move your vote onto someone you are truly suspicous of in order for the town to obtain more information etc etc


thus i direct some of your attention at larjarse
he hasnt said one single thing of any content for the town and is blatantly making one liners to stay above the threshold of activity.

scum like so far? i think so, hopefully he can develop something
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 00:16 GMT
#458
On August 07 2010 09:05 BrownBear wrote:
lajarse could possibly be scum, but let's get everyone talking before we make a concrete decision. We still need to hear from Roffles and a couple others.



i agree entirely im just saying he might as well have not posted, but i think him posting the way he has is actually saying alot.

Just want you dudes to notice him, keep an eye out and such! He's the most inactive active person so far.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 01:19 GMT
#472
On August 07 2010 09:56 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 01:08 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +


Well he can't hit tonight so we don't have to worry about it for now. I would prefer they claim while they have their shot, and then we use it to verify them if their are counter claims. If we wait until after they shoot then we can use this plan until day/night 3

If we just have them claim tomorrow then they can shoot the other claimant that night or if it isn't counter claimed we enact the plan.


we cannot do this before they shoot because then they WILL be roleblocked, because it could save a mafia and it makes the vig unable to confirm himself LOL, plan screwed


^---From Divinek

If bus driver drives the vigi then he can't be roleblocked, the person on the other end would be roleblocked, problem semi solved?



right i keep forgetting how AWESOME the bus driver is
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 01:24 GMT
#475
On August 07 2010 10:21 SouthRawrea wrote:
IMO
Foolishness=Ninja
Pyrr= Veteran/Ninja
BM= Hatter/Role Blocker


your opinion is stupid and without reason. Posts like this are stupid

are you trying to paint yourself poorly already.

Trying to make reads on someones exact role at this point is LOL anyways.

though if you do have reasons id be more than happy to hear them
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 01:30 GMT
#477
On August 07 2010 10:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It doesn't seem like a good idea to lynch active people right now to me. It seems activity is better for town and it will make scum more likely to slip up. I didn't expect to see 14 more pages the next time I opened the thread though. I haven't yet seen a convincing argument as to whether to vote for someone, though I doubt there will be any on day 1, so I will vote for a player that has been even more inactive than I have.

Also, it'd be nice if people wouldn't throw about insults as much. We're playing a friendly game of mafia, guys. Nothing personal, just business.


you voted for hesmyrr, did you not see his massive post on the last page?

have you even been reading the thread.

You realise you arent contributing ANYTHING, ur just like lets be fwiends im voting for someone inactive that isnt really as inactive as i am.

You're going near the top o the list son
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 01:49 GMT
#490
On August 07 2010 10:39 LSB wrote:


Q4 Newbie question: If we don’t kill the inactives now, when do we kill them?



well we vote for them in hopes that they stop being inactive. They'll either get modkilled or having to start making some real contributions...i hope. We kill them asap unless we have REAL evidence on someone else

too many times we focus on 1 or 2 inactive ish people, when there's like half a dozen. I'm really bent on trying to avoid that this game

speaking of which lets have a look at some inactive or people that have posted basically nothing thus far


1)lasjarles(or whatever) !!!
2)Misder
3) South
4) Artanis[xp]
5)roffles
6) love1another
7) iaaan !!!


im really gonna press these names cause im gonna be gone until a few hours before deadline tomorrow so hopefully EVERYONE takes a look at these god damn people

dont let these lurkers slide by
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 02:02 GMT
#499
On August 07 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote:
Pandain's 1st Refinement of his plan:
So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts.........


Watccher and tracker visit BM
Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia.
If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia.
Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim?
If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh?

Thoughts?



yeah that sounds fine, it's a good way to clear someone as well. Since they will find each other, and both of the meds can protect BM and the DT can investigate him

cant all blues with abilities like this find each other simply by all going to one player while a watcher/tracker is there?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 02:03 GMT
#502
i think the only thing is the roleblocker can roleblock bm and be one of the people you would see right?

i dont think the framer would come up to a watcher but im not sure
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 07 2010 02:03 GMT
#503
On August 07 2010 11:02 love1another wrote:
Damn it, I'm not a lurker. I'm in Shanghai so my hours are completely different from you guys. That doesn't make me a mafia!


your hours have nothing to do with the fact you havent posted anything of substance
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Divinek
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August 07 2010 02:08 GMT
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On August 07 2010 11:05 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
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On August 07 2010 11:02 Divinek wrote:
On August 07 2010 10:57 Pandain wrote:
Pandain's 1st Refinement of his plan:
So I was making this whole complicated thing about my plan, when I thought of something. Here's my thoughts.........


Watccher and tracker visit BM
Night hit will tell us whether they are mafia, since tracker will know about mafia.
If mafia: Tracker and watcher gather up, two medics protect both of them. We lynch a certain mafia.
Have town circle also. Possible mass roleclaim?
If blue: We have a circle of 3 blues, perfect eh?

Thoughts?



yeah that sounds fine, it's a good way to clear someone as well. Since they will find each other, and both of the meds can protect BM and the DT can investigate him

cant all blues with abilities like this find each other simply by all going to one player while a watcher/tracker is there?

Hmm so some possible probs - what if BM is mafia and first mafia hit hits a protted person so they don't die? Or hits a vet? Survivor of hit will have to claim in this scenario.



yeah i dont believe he is the crux of this plan but that is an important thing to note before clearing him certainly

so what are peoples thoughts about avoiding the roleblocker infiltrating the circle?

because obviously the watcher cant just hand out a list of the people who visited say bm, to each other, because then the role blocker would get a list of almost certainly all blues right

i dont know if im confused about how the roles work but there's no guaranteed way to know any of the people visiting bm wont be the role blocker as the watchers the only person who is going to have all of this info right?
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
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