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##Vote abstain | ||
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Unvote ##Vote youngminii Better to take a shot at a suspicious person than not. | ||
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On August 13 2010 10:14 bumatlarge wrote: By "not caring about logic" I meant the penalty assumptions logic. Ace said he knew he would die regardless, but i didnt register the mafia hitting ace based on his plan, because he had never outright claimed who he was hitting. If you think Ace knew, perhaps you care explain his death post: On August 11 2010 09:29 Ace wrote: oh are you fucking serious? :/ As to what Ace did that night... I have no idea. As I said before, I was expecting him to "telegraph" (whatever that means) his action. We got nothing. | ||
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On August 13 2010 13:12 Bill Murray wrote: i'm going to hit citi.zen I will not be surprised if you do. You will be quite disappointed though. | ||
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I think zeks is playing differently and if I'm alive will probably vote for him. No smoking gun though, youngminii and Ace also looked very different this game to me, so w/e. | ||
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But don't think it'll confirm Bill, he will get killed. | ||
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On August 13 2010 21:59 Korynne wrote: BM you shoud hit tonight, otherwise you are not "confirmed" and will very likely be lynched tomorrow given the amount of people suspecting you. So even if just by self-preservation, pick someone and go. I'm assuming you are not a one-shot vigi and can shoot as many times as you want? If so mafia would most likely want you dead tonight otherwise we have a confirmed vigilante... Also don't stump bum... >_> This is weak. If Bill was red claiming vigi, he would have been vigi hit tonight. Unless there is no vigi, in which case lol. | ||
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On August 14 2010 12:11 bumatlarge wrote: Hm :/ well bill you got some explaining to do. Citizen isnt dead. mafia had a 1 in 3 shot, I would have taken my chances and hit bill. They either REALLY feel lucky this game, or BM is red. ## Vote Bill Murray Maybe the vig is either jaymes, or has some whack penalty. This is a pretty obvious choice. Thanks citizen for making this a little easier for the town. Hey maybe even Korynne is red too instead of LSB, but we can speculate that later. For the 1111th time: it makes no sense for Bill to claim vig, of all things, if he was red. It's the least safe claim possible: if there is a real vigilante he dies, and allows the vigilante to confirm themselves in the process. 2x lose for the mafia, vs. any other fake claim they can come up with. The better question is "why is BM still alive?" Here I can guess: the mafia already know they can avoid getting hit by staying off the wagon, so leaving him alive can at most hurt the town if he kills another town-aligned player; they think they can get BM lynched. | ||
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youngminii (4) Divinek citi.zen Bill Murray Scamp chaoser (2) Korynne zeks Abstain/No Lynch (2) bumatlarge LSB Bill Murray (1) youngminii Not voted yet (2): chaoser, Jayme The reds are most likely three of: Korynne, LSB, bumatlarge, chaoser or jayme. Bum has an absurd claim, but let's cross him off for now. Meaning: * Korynne is red. It's not just the vote, it's repeated misstatements (Ace played "normal", Pyrr was "scummy" for saying the penalty claims were bad; BM NEEDS to kill someone to be "confirmed"). * Two of LSB, chaoser or jayme are red. I used to think Scamp could be red as well, but I now doubt it. That's my input, I will keep my vote on Korynne. The weekend is here! | ||
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* It makes little sense for a red to claim vigi, given there is a decent chance there is a vigi in the game * If BM told the truth about being a vigi with the bandwagon penalty, the mafia would stay off the wagon while encouraging him to kill someone, anyone, off that wagon. This is exactly what you, Korynne, argued for: to "confirm himself" he should kill... anyone. You stayed off the wagon, of course. * Since they know how to prevent BM from killing them, the mafia let BM live to be lynched and/or "prove himself" by killing a townie tomorrow night My 0.2c in the absence of a better story. PS: please don't just reply WIFOM, I really don't care for that empty acronym. | ||
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On August 14 2010 15:38 Scamp wrote: Citi.zen it's possible that "vigilante" was given to the mafia as a safe-claim, and therefore they would know there isn't one in the game. I'm just waiting for Bill Murray's input before doing any heavy reacting. It would make the game too imbalanced, I would think, if the reds knew what roles there are out there but the town did not. Plus, the OP states the mafia is given penalty claims, saying nothing about role claims: 3. Mafia will be provided with safe penalty claims to make early mass claim detrimental. | ||
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On August 14 2010 23:32 chaoser wrote: Why aren't we lynching BM again? He said he was vigi, claimed he hit someone, then it didn't happen. WTF? ##vote BM Where did he claim he hit someone? | ||
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On August 15 2010 01:20 Korynne wrote: Why didn't he claim he wasn't hitting someone before the night ended? Like if citi.zen and BM are mafia they can just run on the oh hey let's not waste our vigi hit guys! If BM is red he took one hell of a risk claiming vigi of all things. I mentioned this many time before. It's not impossible he's red, just highly unlikely. Without addressing this you're making unjustified claims simply for the sake of spreading confusion. How are you so sure citi.zen, scamp and divinek are not mafia? Nobody did any substantial analysis, and citi.zen sure didn't bother to do any substantial analysis and just was like oh hey, divinek and scamp look innocent, let's not used the vigi hit tonight. I actually tried to do a long post on scamp. I went through all his posts and could not convince myself he is red. So I let it go. Divinek also seemed reasonable. Am I sure? Somewhat :-) Usually vigi hit is like a double lynch, the only thing is this time it's kinda like, well, it's like a double lynch where your second hit has limited choices. So the reason we would not want to use it is because we are so totally sure that those guys are not mafia, which we're certainly not. I think you have it backwards: the reason we would want to use it is that we are sure we will hit a red. Otherwise we are just helping the mafia win faster, especially since in this set-up they know how to avoid being hit. Also BM what do you mean I'm lying low on the radar for voting? I can't switch my vote! That's why I FoS'd you. Consider those "votes." Directed at BM, so he can answer. For my $$s worth a FoS on BM is weak, as stated above. So how about this, I'll vote for majority at the end of the day. If BM feels like I'm totally scummy he can vigi my ass. And if BM is mafia as I suspect then my ass will not be vigi'd. And then of course there's the option of both me and BM are town and like, falcepalm. I see no better candidate than yourself for today's lynch. The second part of your idea is pretty good though: everyone should be on the same wagon so we can choose our course of action after we see how you flip. Also like, lots of inactivity going on while me, BM, and citi.zen bicker. With other people inserting like, a line or two in places. I never tried to bicker. I am just telling you and, more importantly, the other players, what my take is on the current situation. If they don't want to read, think about it, or offer better alternatives.... whatever :-) | ||
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