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I still think the chaoser find is stronger, but if he was red, more then 2 people wouldn't have jumped on this bandwagon so fast.
Also, If DTA and citi are red, this gives them a near perfect scenario to win the game. Divine is absolutely right, WIFOM game is annoying. But I guess I dont see why darth would take it off the chaoser list unless he was red. So maybe it would be smart to link up potential teams of mafia.
If chaoser = red then DTA and/or citi
If Korynne = red then maybe LSB?
If BM = red then citi?
I think there is enough info in this thread to make this firmer. Especially since its nearing lylo, mafia will tend to stick together harder for a faster and cleaner win, and if they do it right there is nothing town can do.
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On August 17 2010 08:01 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 07:52 DarthThienAn wrote:
Too many people voting for chaoser...
Despite that post I need to think. Obviously, if we lynch a townie, BM does not use his vigi hit. So that fails.
Alternate plan?
1) Lynch Korynne.
Korynne mafia: we tell BM to shoot someone on the list who we suspect (multiple names!). If two people die, then BM is confirmed townie. If one person dies, we lynch BM - if he's mafia, great, if he's not, we're.. back at lylo I think.
We're at 6-3
Lynch Korynne: 6-2
BM + mafia both hit townies: 4-2, with a confirmed townie (unless mafia hit BM)
BM + mafia hit 1 of ea: 5-1
only one hit: 5-2 --> lynch BM (townie) 4-2, lynch BM (mafia) 5-1.
Korynne townie: we tell BM not to shoot anyone.
6-3
Lynch Korynne: 5-3
Mafia hit someone tonight: 4-3
in which case we're at lylo. This means that Korynne dies today, and BM may/may not shoot one of the Korynne voters tonight. Thoughts? man i totally didnt realize we could lose from this rofl, cause townie plus nk plus vigi is 3 and i thought mafia had to out number town not equal them. However say we lynch anyone today that is town and then it's 5-3, and then say bm announces his hit and they stack with bm's hit or just dont do a hit then it's 4-3, and then if you lynch him because only one person died we lose... or they could obviously just hit someone else and out right end the game if bm follows through with his vigi hit. but obviously if we hit a mob with our lynch it'll be alot better cause then it's like 6-2 and bm can hit anyone and mafia couldnt stack their hit with his because that'd be senseless so it'd probably go to 4-2 or if we get lucky 5-1, which the latter would certainly be winning for us. So i think if we lynch whoever we lynch today if they flip town then BM CAN'T shoot, but if they flip red the hoorah, do people think that korynee seems like a much more compelling case than chaoser at this point? (because we dont have to worry about her not begin on the wagon if we lynch her, in order to be shot) i mean yeah no one is defending him but maybe that's so they dont look bad? gah there's too much god damn wifom shit in this game 
First off,
##unvote
Vote Korynne
Hurr.. I need to think.
6-3 right now.
1) Lynch a Townie
Night: 5-3, if BM and mafia hit two targets, then we lose. Therefore, if we lynch a townie today, BM should not hit, and we'll be at 4-3 LYLO. There's no reason why the mafia would stack with BM in this case, when they could just win by hitting an additional target. That said, BM should not hit tonight if we mislynch. Agreed? Worst case scenario is that we're at 4-3 LYLO.
Numbers breakdown:
a) BM and mafia both use their hits.
i) BM and mafia hit separate targets: 3-3, we lose.
aii) BM and mafia hit the same target: 4-3, LYLO, we would probably lynch BM for lying except we wouldn't be able to because he might not be mafia except etc.etc.etc. Basically, bad situation.
b) BM doesn't hit, mafia hit: we're at 4-3, same situation as (aii) but it takes out the possibility of an autolose with (ai).
So (b) is the best choice.
2) Lynch a Mafia
Night: 6-2
a) BM and mafia both hit.
i) Hit separate targets: we're either at 4-2 or 5-1 with a confirmed townie.
ii) Hit same target: we're at 5-2, and we lynch BM for 'lying', putting us at 4-2 that night, 3-2 during the next day (LYLO).
b) BM does not hit.
Mafia hit, we're at 5-2. We lynch BM for 'lying' putting us at either 5-1 or 4-2 that night. 3-2 during the next day.
So obviously, (ai) is ideal, but as you can see, it isn't possible unless BM hits tonight (after a red flip in a couple hours).
Gosh I hope this is right this time.
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On August 17 2010 03:20 DarthThienAn wrote:
Can we lynch bum? :D
wow didnt even see this lol im fairly certain that me stumping would not be helpful unless it would be between me and a certain red. I.E. its either I am red or they are, I will stump. And also, I refuted chaosers only blue role thought, when I was the only vanilla claimed person at the time. Silly reason to lose as mafia because I made a guess on roles. (yeah I remember that all blue town game very well)
Call my bluff, I dare you.
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On August 17 2010 08:42 bumatlarge wrote:
I still think the chaoser find is stronger, but if he was red, more then 2 people wouldn't have jumped on this bandwagon so fast.
Also, If DTA and citi are red, this gives them a near perfect scenario to win the game. Divine is absolutely right, WIFOM game is annoying. But I guess I dont see why darth would take it off the chaoser list unless he was red. So maybe it would be smart to link up potential teams of mafia.
If chaoser = red then DTA and/or citi
If Korynne = red then maybe LSB?
If BM = red then citi?
I think there is enough info in this thread to make this firmer. Especially since its nearing lylo, mafia will tend to stick together harder for a faster and cleaner win, and if they do it right there is nothing town can do.
Reasons why I don't want to vote chaoser:
1) I still read Korynne as mafia.
2) Everyone voted for chaoser so easily. WIFOM, but mafia wouldn't do that when BM was still in the lead. Potentially 3 mafia were all already on BM, but unlikely.
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On August 17 2010 08:48 bumatlarge wrote:wow didnt even see this lol im fairly certain that me stumping would not be helpful unless it would be between me and a certain red. I.E. its either I am red or they are, I will stump. And also, I refuted chaosers only blue role thought, when I was the only vanilla claimed person at the time. Silly reason to lose as mafia because I made a guess on roles. (yeah I remember that all blue town game very well) Call my bluff, I dare you.
It wasn't his thought that made me vote for him. And you refuting him wasn't why I thought you were scummy. I voted for him because he didn't die when he was obviously either blue or red (or lying?) and mafia decided to hit green instead?
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On August 17 2010 08:12 citi.zen wrote:
Here:
Unvote
##vote korynne
If you two switch, we have the votes since korynne can't switch.
if she stays quiet until too close the deadline then you have my vote 
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ah nvm i have to leave for a few hours, gotta help my brother organize all his fancy wedding gifts
##unvote
##vote korynne
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I'm really not sure what the vote count is right now. I hope my vote isn't needed.
##vote: abstain
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On August 17 2010 09:12 Scamp wrote:
I'm really not sure what the vote count is right now. I hope my vote isn't needed.
##vote: abstain
Be a good sport and get on the wagon.
Same with everyone else.
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Well, let me take a stab at this then, DTA. We have a DT and medic, and a proclaimed vig. Chaoser didnt say he was, or post anything else, so i think we can pin him as veteran and I believe mafia have also, which is why they didn't hit him. That makes sense now, ok dont lynch chaoser. If we have 1 of each role then I guess that really gives BM alot of town cred, which is hard to give him :/
Im going to put DTA on that town cred list since he made me see it. Divine and citi really backed it hard, so hell lets put them in. Then we have
Korynne did put her PERMA VOTE on chaoser so shes red I think hes not
Korynne
bumatlarge
scamp
LSB
So if I know im not red, that leaves those three so...
Either Korynne scamp and LSB
or its DTA trying to pull off this shit
DTA, citi and divine. Maybe BM?
##unvote
##vote korynne
still find it very suspicious that korynne threw herself under the wheel when mafia are at an advantage.
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Citi I would love to join the wagon but I don't want to waste my votes.
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On August 17 2010 09:12 Scamp wrote:
I'm really not sure what the vote count is right now. I hope my vote isn't needed.
##vote: abstain
does abstaining count against your penalty?
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the mafia will want to keep korynne alive if chaoser isnt mafia
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If you press it fast enough it sounds like a drum roll!
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On August 17 2010 09:24 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2010 09:12 Scamp wrote:
I'm really not sure what the vote count is right now. I hope my vote isn't needed.
##vote: abstain does abstaining count against your penalty?
Abstaining does not. That's why I've been doing it pretty much all game.
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Well unless you have 1 vote, you should start using them. We will need you for lylo, so I guess adjust yourself accordingly
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On August 17 2010 10:12 bumatlarge wrote:Well unless you have 1 vote, you should start using them. We will need you for lylo, so I guess adjust yourself accordingly
He voted last lynch cycle.
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Oh my fault, do what you must.
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On August 13 2010 11:32 Korynne wrote:
So like, working on stuff, but like been busy with school and work and things. Sorry, will get around to it. =(
Just noticed that in the team melee thread. Makes me nervous. Let's see that flip already...
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