You did this before. Completely ignored his claim and focused on his line of reasoning. He said he confirmed something about his role, and it happened. Im not saying I agree with his logic about penalties. Im saying he was right about something with his plan, since he did indeed die at night.

I have a detailed post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137823&currentpage=22#439 Before you go a step in the direction of Aces logic, please answer the faults

Dead men do tell lies

Show nested quote +

Ace was unoriginal, I called him scum first, and he just stole it from me. I actually take pride in the fact that Ace called me scum. He called two people in the game scum. Me and Pyrr

Let's look at the world your proposing. Your proposing that Ace, protecting me, got killed because I was 'scum'. Big problem.
Okay, you missed some key points. Who did the Mafia kill? No one has claimed a vigi hit, and the doctor was protecting me.
As unbelievable as it seems, I believe the Mafia killed Ace, hoping to send the town into disarray.

Well then you need to clarify on people, do you think citizen and BM are mafia? I only choose you because of Ace took his visit to the grave. There could still be a vet, but I guess they would have claimed immediately, unless there role prevents them. Jayme for instance seems a like that with Goth, but not sure why he would get hit. We only have a slice of the penalty pie.

I need everyone to read the whole thread over, There is alot of stuff I could have missed.

Now the interesting part, how do we know it was not me? Well lets find out, assuming those 3 vote me, and i vote one of them, it will be for the rest to decide. If I get the majority, I will treestump before the day is over. The population will then be 7-4. But we will lynch one of these 3, and sorry korynne, bill is the most obvious. The population will then be 7-3, exactly the same as if I was lynched anyway. Dont care about his little vig stories. So go ahead guys, convince them to lynch me.

I dare you.

I'll be happy to answer any questions.

Don't kill yourself, I know your town.[/QUOTE]

Im not killing myself, I'm becoming one with the penalty game. Hummmmmmm

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 01:00 GMT

#581

Oh its night, lol.... i thought it said the 13th?

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 01:03 GMT

#582

On August 13 2010 10:00 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh its night, lol.... i thought it said the 13th?

Now I feel silly, keep forgetting its KST, which is exactly 12 hours ahead of EST :X

wow what will happen...

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 01:14 GMT

#585

By "not caring about logic" I meant the penalty assumptions logic. Ace said he knew he would die regardless, but i didnt register the mafia hitting ace based on his plan, because he had never outright claimed who he was hitting.

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 01:21 GMT

#590

yeahhhh well still pretty set on citizen and bill. Watch bill "vig" a town and make it seem like a BM accident. Damn I gotta remember this KST time

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 01:26 GMT

#592

I guess he really did forget he was playing this game. Still doesnt change the fact that if a mafia doesnt die tonight by BM's bullet, he dies, no questions asked. And then you scum. I suppose Ace was surprised there was no other victim. Guess he didnt expect mafia to hit him when he had so much filth on him.

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 01:59 GMT

#594

You are on it. Oh wait, Bill murray cant hit you, silly me.

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 05:05 GMT

#603

You better kill him BM, or pray to god mafia hits me.

bumatlarge

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August 13 2010 14:23 GMT

#606

I dont need to stump if im not getting lynched. And i doubt anyone would after what I posted. So if I see two hits tonight, we can trust Bill. If there is one kill, you have to take the blame regardless. Although I would suggest citizen, make it more random so they dont predict it.

Korynne can you read through the thread again? Along with everyone. If I use my power when im going to lynched, and we lynch a red instead, we will only need to deal with 2 other reds, despite the pop increase. The lylo will come soooner, but it would be easier to pull off a win. Assuming we hit red -_-

Any analysis on anyone would be great.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

August 14 2010 03:11 GMT

#620

Hm :/ well bill you got some explaining to do. Citizen isnt dead. mafia had a 1 in 3 shot, I would have taken my chances and hit bill. They either REALLY feel lucky this game, or BM is red.

## Vote Bill Murray

Maybe the vig is either jaymes, or has some whack penalty. This is a pretty obvious choice. Thanks citizen for making this a little easier for the town. Hey maybe even Korynne is red too instead of LSB, but we can speculate that later.

bumatlarge

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August 14 2010 06:19 GMT

#627

Yeah lets hear BM's excuses now. Korynne that is a funky penalty, not that a I disagree with where your vote is. Though its nice playing with only 5 people, when 9 are left. Town is in really good spirits obv.

bumatlarge

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August 15 2010 07:13 GMT

#645

##Vote 24 hour extension

bumatlarge

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August 15 2010 15:56 GMT

#649

YAY!

LSB didnt vote, and Id like his opinions. If more people decide korynnes is scum I will swing that way, but if she pops town, I think its pretty much GG if we dont go BM>Citizen>?LSB?

bumatlarge

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August 16 2010 14:10 GMT

#685

Fine bill, we lynch ??? have korynne in the vote and you shoot her if you are vig? Id give you another shot (lol) at proving yourself, but then whats to stop red from hitting korynne also, and completely screws you over. (if she isnt red)

Im tired of this really, we should have lynched BM day 1. This is all so easily fabricated, that all we have to go on is constant BM quips of "we need me" and "we will lose if I die". I really wish you had played like a normal town if you are one, instead of lying. If we decide to leave you alive, its just gonna be another excuse tommorrow, and another "but im essential" post that means nothing to anyone at this point. If we lose, oh well we lost trying our best. If lose because you are scum and we didnt lynch you, then shame on us.

bumatlarge

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August 16 2010 22:42 GMT

#715

Wow I completely forgot that chaoser post, now I feel retarded.

It makes sense since only Pyrr and Ace died, I need to read the thread again. Unless chaoser is vet, but I think mafia would have hit him by now anyway to be sure.

##Vote chaoser

bumatlarge

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August 16 2010 23:42 GMT

#721

I still think the chaoser find is stronger, but if he was red, more then 2 people wouldn't have jumped on this bandwagon so fast.

Also, If DTA and citi are red, this gives them a near perfect scenario to win the game. Divine is absolutely right, WIFOM game is annoying. But I guess I dont see why darth would take it off the chaoser list unless he was red. So maybe it would be smart to link up potential teams of mafia.

If chaoser = red then DTA and/or citi
If Korynne = red then maybe LSB?
If BM = red then citi?

I think there is enough info in this thread to make this firmer. Especially since its nearing lylo, mafia will tend to stick together harder for a faster and cleaner win, and if they do it right there is nothing town can do.

bumatlarge

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August 16 2010 23:48 GMT

#723

On August 17 2010 03:20 DarthThienAn wrote:
Can we lynch bum? :D

wow didnt even see this lol im fairly certain that me stumping would not be helpful unless it would be between me and a certain red. I.E. its either I am red or they are, I will stump. And also, I refuted chaosers only blue role thought, when I was the only vanilla claimed person at the time. Silly reason to lose as mafia because I made a guess on roles. (yeah I remember that all blue town game very well)

Call my bluff, I dare you.

bumatlarge

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August 17 2010 00:16 GMT

#730

Well, let me take a stab at this then, DTA. We have a DT and medic, and a proclaimed vig. Chaoser didnt say he was, or post anything else, so i think we can pin him as veteran and I believe mafia have also, which is why they didn't hit him. That makes sense now, ok dont lynch chaoser. If we have 1 of each role then I guess that really gives BM alot of town cred, which is hard to give him :/

Im going to put DTA on that town cred list since he made me see it. Divine and citi really backed it hard, so hell lets put them in. Then we have

Korynne did put her PERMA VOTE on chaoser so shes red I think hes not

Korynne
bumatlarge
scamp
LSB

So if I know im not red, that leaves those three so...

Either Korynne scamp and LSB

or its DTA trying to pull off this shit

DTA, citi and divine. Maybe BM?

##unvote
##vote korynne

still find it very suspicious that korynne threw herself under the wheel when mafia are at an advantage.