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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 23 2010 18:16 GMT
#27
Cant
not
play
hrrrrghhhh

/in

*pant pant pant*
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 00:31 GMT
#79
Well, my role is whack, Im not sure why I would use my power at all. The roles seem to be based off regular roles with some twist.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Roles
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 04:39 GMT
#108
I think we are pretty much in a pickle ATM Ace, so Im all ears to a plan. I doubt you would have some convoluted anti town plan when you dont know any other roles that could screw it up. If it involves killing someone, I think im a good target I guess? Im not a vig, but im a viable person to kill thats for sure...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 06:33 GMT
#113
rofl did hesymrr do this unpurpose?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 14:04 GMT
#141
Oh my god... BM if you are some sort of day rolechecker/DT or something else that lets you find out Ace's role, Vote me! and then go back to ace

If not, vote divine and bouncearoo.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 21:30 GMT
#159
On August 09 2010 05:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
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On August 08 2010 23:04 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh my god... BM if you are some sort of day rolechecker/DT or something else that lets you find out Ace's role, Vote me! and then go back to ace

If not, vote divine and bouncearoo.

lol bouncearoo. I like that word. I hope it is some secret trigger word Hesmyrr attached to your role.

I wish, then I wouldnt have this penalty. I seriously hope there is no mafia role that forces someone to use their role, because that would we really hurt us. Oh also, if a town has that kinda role, DO NOT USE IT ON ME. In fact if you have a role that prevents someone from using theirs, use that on me...

Seriously im considering just saying it out loud.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 21:51 GMT
#161
On August 09 2010 04:23 Jayme wrote:
How is it that BM was able to turn the thread into a minor shitfest after only a few hours of the game starting.

If it was any other person id believe he has a penalty where he can just vote but given his track record he could very well just be messing with everybody.

I'd like to hear Ace's plan though.


Um, wow, I think its pretty clear his penalty is the problem here, not him. FoS on you for something that he cant help. Saw BC do this before, not cool man, not cool.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 21:54 GMT
#163
On August 09 2010 06:42 chaoser wrote:
then say it out loud -_-

I will if more then 5 people ask me too. If it wasnt for the Ace/BM thing, I would for sure.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 08 2010 23:48 GMT
#194
Alright basically, I am a tree stump. If I use my power, I cannot die, and cannot vote. BUT if I use it, town pop goes down 1, and mafia pop goes up by 1.

I.E. if i used it right now, town population would be 9 and mafia count would be 4. Im assuming that, if all the mafia are lynched out, then town wins regardless.

There are no PMs allowed, so I cant accept mass roleclaim, so I dont really see a reason for me to use it anyway.

##Vote Bill Murray
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 09 2010 01:23 GMT
#248
On August 09 2010 10:09 Ace wrote:
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On August 09 2010 09:39 zeks wrote:
i'm up for the penalty posting

basically when i'm lynched, a random person is picked out of the people who voted for me, and that person gets permanent +1 vote to all future lynch votes no matter what

yeah i'm not very useful


oh dear :/. A random person or random townie?. Check the wording very carefully. If it's a random person that's pretty terrible. If it's a random townie that sucks also but we can have possibly have a confirmed townie.

Penalties:

Ace : Must telegraph moves to the town before acting
bumatlarge: If acting mafia population goes up by 1, town population goes down by 1
zeks: If lynched, random person(?) on the wagon gets permanent +1 voting power

@bumatlarge: Does the PM tell you how the population works? Like do mafia basically get a townie recruited into their ranks or is it some other way it works?
[/b][/b]

No, town victory is still my win condition, and for all intents and purposes I have to want town to win. They basically get another mafia who cant die until they do.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 09 2010 03:39 GMT
#305
I believe you Bill!

unvote
Vote Pyrrhoxlia
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 09 2010 19:15 GMT
#349
+ Show Spoiler +
Koryyyyynnneeeee. maaaaaffiiaaaaaaa.
KOOOOORRYYYYYYYNEEEEEEEEE! GODFAATHAAAAA!


If pyrr isnt scum, then its safe to gun forace I assume. I mean Ace is making it seem that pyrr is mafia for sure, id doubt hed push so hard unless he was lying or truly believed it. If he denies it, then im not going to push pyrr for him if hes not going to accept the consequences of pushing people as hard as he does without good reason. If he has a good a reason as he says he does, i dont see any point in not following him.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 09 2010 22:52 GMT
#368
I believe he said his actions dont get registered til two days after, which is long time for such a small game, Id imagine mafia have some harsh penalties to compensate. Like no KP :D one can hope.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 10 2010 02:11 GMT
#414
Sorry Ace, sorry you're dirty scum
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 10 2010 02:56 GMT
#416
Wow ok. Because I specifically said that if pyrr was what he was you would be the next to go, because you gunning for him was premature and rude, i regret believing you had some "ground-breaking" plan. Maybe your not really that smart trading yourself for pyrr, I wouldnt expect you'd think you could get out of this after saying things like "Stop squirming" and "Put your vote where your mouth is so I can destroy you" to Pyrr. Honeslty its condescending and immature to go about a game in such a way.

I honestly would rather play in a game with 2 bill murray's and 10 chezinu's then play a game with you in it. At least they would have a little respect for other people. Have fun killing people at night!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 10 2010 03:10 GMT
#418
Why you dont want me to "destroy you"?

You should probably stop "squirming"
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 10 2010 03:15 GMT
#420
Pretty desperate. If I didn't know better (I'm sure you'd make a 5 paragraph essay speculating in a roundabout way about how do not know better) you would like me to use my ability, wouldn't you?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 10 2010 03:38 GMT
#426
Yeah it would seem Ace doesnt care whether or not I use it. You would think a townie would say that that would be a very bad move, but that's probably my noobie tendencies talking. I mean how bad can it be to give mafia 4 against, whats this now? 8 then? Hmm and no DT because, oh look hes dead! Because of some brilliant plan! Man what should we do now Ace?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 10 2010 03:43 GMT
#428
On August 10 2010 12:42 citi.zen wrote:
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On August 10 2010 12:35 Ace wrote:
On August 10 2010 12:24 citi.zen wrote:
On August 10 2010 09:15 Ace wrote:
Ok just got my PM from Hessmyrr. I'm going to break the game wide open because we aren't going to sit around playing the blame game with LSB and the rest of the scrubs for 3 days. I'm also going to explain how I arrived out my stunningly awesome conclusion:

The game has 10 town and 3 scum. In a typical game of Mafia this would be slightly unbalanced in favor of the scum unless the town has a Vigilante. This is why I'm extremely sure we have a Vigilante. Otherwise this game would be ridiculous. Call this assumption 1.

Now based on my own role PM, I know our roles are weakened. Taking this into account let's call the 10 vs 3 setup neutral or 0:0.

When everyone's penalties came out I was wondering if all of us had negative effects. So far it seems like it. For every negative effect I subtracted 1 from the town side.

My penalty
bumatlarge's penalty
zeks penalty

So now we're at -3: 0.

At this point since the Mafia have no penalties the game would be highly unbalanced in their favor. There is no way that the town from a standard game got ALL weakened abilities because this would be a bastard game: The town could never win. I highly doubt this is the case. And so I came to the conclusion my role has a hidden ability: If I visit scum at night I die.

This is why I said my abilities are potentially game breaking. I can tell you what I'm going to do and if it happens to be a scum aligned player, I automatically die regardless of what else happens that night.

If this assumption holds true, and I'm pretty sure it can then we've got this game finished. I can just claim who I'm going to visit ahead of time and if I come back alive the person is town aligned. If I die and there's only one kill at night you'll know I got him by scum (barring a Vigilante hit). So with that said - let's get the show on the road

How can you even begin to make these calculations without knowing what other blue roles there are? Not only that, but you assume based on them that you have a "hidden ability" which may or may not make sense.

I see how these claims would be convenient though, now that you're to be lynched next.


*yawn*

How much you wanna bet I don't get lynched?

Way to not answer the real question.

*yawn*


Hey citizen, do YOU think I should use my power? You know, the one that screwes town over completely?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 10 2010 18:17 GMT
#440
Agreed.

Assuming ace is scum, the game will be 7-2 at day 3. Now i guess to utilize this role i have to survive to a point where town has an advantage. So if the game ever reaches a day phase where (Town# - 1) x 2 > (mafia# + 1) then I would claim myself something of a spokesperson for the town. If town disagrees at that point, i will treestump and organize the town properly. I am not asking for medic protection, but I am proposing myself as a target later if not now for mafia. That way a person with a better role can live. Hopefully mafia feels a little threatened.

BTW, lylo isnt in effect til day 5 if all lynches til then are town besides ace (disregarding vig and medic). And my plan wouldnt go into effect anyway until another red is killed, unless people would consider (T# - 1) x 2 = (M# + 1) a pro town situation.
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