Penalty Mafia - Page 29

On August 13 2010 07:45 zeks wrote:
##unvote
##Vote Chaoser

The little resistance from the youngminii stacking worries me

On August 13 2010 08:22 LSB wrote:

Youngminii said he couldn't devote that much time in the other game.

Youngminii would be modkilled anyways, for not voting.

On August 13 2010 08:36 Divinek wrote:



hi just got back from work before the deadline :D crazy driving yay

also he's not going to get mod killed

Bill Murray (1)
youngminii

from the vote totals on page 1, and those are quite up to date.

And uh i like my vote where it is based on the few things that have been said. No lynch would be silly.

On August 10 2010 09:15 Ace wrote:
Ok just got my PM from Hessmyrr. I'm going to break the game wide open because we aren't going to sit around playing the blame game with LSB and the rest of the scrubs for 3 days. I'm also going to explain how I arrived out my stunningly awesome conclusion:

The game has 10 town and 3 scum. In a typical game of Mafia this would be slightly unbalanced in favor of the scum unless the town has a Vigilante. This is why I'm extremely sure we have a Vigilante. Otherwise this game would be ridiculous. Call this assumption 1.

Now based on my own role PM, I know our roles are weakened. Taking this into account let's call the 10 vs 3 setup neutral or 0:0.

When everyone's penalties came out I was wondering if all of us had negative effects. So far it seems like it. For every negative effect I subtracted 1 from the town side.

My penalty
bumatlarge's penalty
zeks penalty

So now we're at -3: 0.

At this point since the Mafia have no penalties the game would be highly unbalanced in their favor. There is no way that the town from a standard game got ALL weakened abilities because this would be a bastard game: The town could never win. I highly doubt this is the case. And so I came to the conclusion my role has a hidden ability: If I visit scum at night I die.

This is why I said my abilities are potentially game breaking. I can tell you what I'm going to do and if it happens to be a scum aligned player, I automatically die regardless of what else happens that night.

If this assumption holds true, and I'm pretty sure it can then we've got this game finished. I can just claim who I'm going to visit ahead of time and if I come back alive the person is town aligned. If I die and there's only one kill at night you'll know I got him by scum (barring a Vigilante hit). So with that said - let's get the show on the road

On August 13 2010 09:10 bumatlarge wrote:
Read that. No wait hold your face palm. He died. And the only two people who I think actually understood what he was saying was citizen and LSB.

He says he would tell us the name of the person he visits, but he never mentions ANYONE's name after that post. The last person he was arguing with citizen, myself and LSB. He knew he was not getting lynched, I suppose, because he knew who he was protecting was red? The obvious person would be bill I guess, but we three were the last to argue with him. The last person he mentions who is alive by name is LSB. Why didnt he just come out and say he was visiting the person he thought? I dont know, but I can guarantee it was one of the 4 of us. He calls LSB scum at one point though after a long argument on who should be lynched -_-

I need everyone to read the whole thread over, There is alot of stuff I could have missed.

Now the interesting part, how do we know it was not me? Well lets find out, assuming those 3 vote me, and i vote one of them, it will be for the rest to decide. If I get the majority, I will treestump before the day is over. The population will then be 7-4. But we will lynch one of these 3, and sorry korynne, bill is the most obvious. The population will then be 7-3, exactly the same as if I was lynched anyway. Dont care about his little vig stories. So go ahead guys, convince them to lynch me.

I dare you.

I'll be happy to answer any questions.

On August 13 2010 09:38 LSB wrote:

By understand, you mean call out his BS, sure. I don't get why you are suddenly accepting Ace logic. Please explain.

It's strange how you suddenly think that Ace was acting in the interest of the town.
Is it just me, do did you say that Aces idea was correct?

I have a detailed post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137823&currentpage=22#439 Before you go a step in the direction of Aces logic, please answer the faults

Dead men do tell lies



Ace was unoriginal, I called him scum first, and he just stole it from me. I actually take pride in the fact that Ace called me scum. He called two people in the game scum. Me and Pyrr

Let's look at the world your proposing. Your proposing that Ace, protecting me, got killed because I was 'scum'. Big problem.
Okay, you missed some key points. Who did the Mafia kill? No one has claimed a vigi hit, and the doctor was protecting me.
As unbelievable as it seems, I believe the Mafia killed Ace, hoping to send the town into disarray.

I need everyone to read the whole thread over, There is alot of stuff I could have missed.

Now the interesting part, how do we know it was not me? Well lets find out, assuming those 3 vote me, and i vote one of them, it will be for the rest to decide. If I get the majority, I will treestump before the day is over. The population will then be 7-4. But we will lynch one of these 3, and sorry korynne, bill is the most obvious. The population will then be 7-3, exactly the same as if I was lynched anyway. Dont care about his little vig stories. So go ahead guys, convince them to lynch me.

I dare you.

I'll be happy to answer any questions.