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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
##Vote Bill Murray Lynch All Liars. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On August 12 2010 10:52 Hesmyrr wrote: Should interfere and state that names of the role, in fact I fabricated I believe to be six ENTIRE role PM for fakeclaim I believe, was also given. There was reason why I said mass claim (penalty or role) was hugely detrimental (read "disaster") to town in a special rules; I took excessive measures to insure you guys could not scumhunt on the basis of claims. Couldn't interfere with disaster in making because proponent - Ace - was still alive and could have affected town's read on him. Great. So a mass claim was designed to be detrimental, the DT and medic had pretty big penalties and, if we believe BM, the vigi can only hit people from the bandwagon. WTF is going on here... is there a DT+vigi role or some overpowered crap? | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On August 12 2010 10:56 youngminii wrote: In that case. ##Vote Bill Murray Lynch All Liars. I see no reason. If there is another "real" vigi they can take him out tomorrow night. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Adjective Claims:: Penalty Claim. Role Ace: Nytophobic Must telegraph moves to the town before acting. Pyrr: Cautious Detective: Can't get results back until later Korynne: Dogmatic: Can't change actions. zeks: Pitiful: If lynched, random person on the wagon gets permanent +1 voting power LSB: citi.zen: Suicidal youngminii: Selfish Scamp: Lazy bumatlarge: Equivocating Treestump: Epic fail treestump. Basically becomes a mafia treestump if used Bill Murray: Wrathful Vigilante: If he dies, a town power role dies. Divinek: Unwary Jayme: Goth chaoser: Obvious If he votes majority, he cannot vote the next day. Okay, I don't get Chaoser's penalty connection with his adjective. @Bill Murry. Okay, I can confirm that there are NO more DTs. I don't know if it will help you On August 12 2010 10:42 bumatlarge wrote: Oh, how exactly did LSB go from Ambitious to vanilla? Lets just say after a certain event my abilities were diminished. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
tl;dr -> My setup was designed to make scum analysis solely based on via claims crap (special rule 3). I felt this interruption was necessary because it seemed my initial message wasn't clear enough for anyone. [examples] * LSB is mafia because "obvious" seem too obvious. (meaningless) * LSB is town because his claim seems too risky. (meaningless) | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 12 2010 10:56 citi.zen wrote: Great. So a mass claim was designed to be detrimental, the DT and medic had pretty big penalties and, if we believe BM, the vigi can only hit people from the bandwagon. WTF is going on here... is there a DT+vigi role or some overpowered crap? Wait... BM has 2 penalties? o.o BTW, we don't have a DT any more. | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On August 12 2010 11:01 LSB wrote: Wait... BM has 2 penalties? o.o BTW, we don't have a DT any more. Good question about BM! How do you know about DTs? | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 12 2010 11:03 citi.zen wrote: Good question about BM! How do you know about DTs? My role had changes when all the DTs in the town were killed | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/v..._id=137823¤tpage=26#517 Edit: At least you were the one to tell me first about it. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On August 12 2010 11:05 LSB wrote: My role had changes when all the DTs in the town were killed Very risky claim for a mafia to make, so this brings you very close to confirmation in my eyes. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 12 2010 11:01 Hesmyrr wrote: I did put some counter-measures to improve success of town when I changed the setup from 17 player to 13 player, yes, so at the START of the game I believe setup to be not too imbalanced. WIll reveal my thought process post-game. tl;dr -> My setup was designed to make scum analysis solely based on via claims crap (special rule 3). I felt this interruption was necessary because it seemed my initial message wasn't clear enough for anyone. [examples] * LSB is mafia because "obvious" seem too obvious. (meaningless) * LSB is town because his claim seems too risky. (meaningless) A few things to note: Mafia has incentive to make claims, claims make them look good, and it's not like it's bad for them. Mafia knows that mass claiming is detrimental (this is because Hesmyrr probably sent them a second part of a PM giving them fake claims). This means that: Mafia knows they can get away with fake penalties Lastly, Hesmyrr expects there to be some way we utilize our roles without mass claims. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
At first I thought they were watered down penalties to not screw them over or something. Now my whole argument for myself is alot weaker | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
This is the third time that I've had to say it. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
But I also think it's a good idea to stray away from the list altogether as someone is making it quite clear that nothing solid is going to be gained from it. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
lets look at young's amazing contribution to the game thus far woooooooooooooooooooo On August 10 2010 02:47 youngminii wrote: LOL OKAY I TOTALLY DID NOT KNOW THIS GAME STARTED WILL START READING LOL spam On August 11 2010 09:11 youngminii wrote: Cool so the doctor stabs the DT and then gets killed. Does anyone think that he might have been Vigi shot? Seems like a plausible explanation to me although that leaves the question of where the mafia KP went unanswered. states what happened, asks a question, answers question. HI-larious On August 11 2010 12:21 youngminii wrote: Anyone else think BM's role seems stupid and made up? It would completely fuck up the balance of the game and I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be a role like that. Also, what better way to prevent the town from lynching you? And yeeeeeeeeeeeeah I'm not claiming. enablers exist in mafia, and they seem somewhat reasonable in this set up as long as you dont publicly admit you are an enabler as such, because how else would anyone ever know. I dont see how it fucks with the balance anymore than something like a tree stump. It does seem like kind of a weird thing to go with a vigi, but not unreasonable? I dunno i think he might be lying bout vigi tos ave his own ass WAIT, im digressing! This post REEKS of confusion. Just asks 2 questions, without really putting anything forward, typical fanning flames play. Typical mafia not wanting to put anything forward but suspicion on someone else On August 11 2010 23:54 youngminii wrote: My adjective is "selfish" which matches my real life persona. well that is what it is, could have gotten that from his mafia pm or something On August 12 2010 10:56 youngminii wrote: In that case. ##Vote Bill Murray Lynch All Liars. policy lynch wooooooooooooo, nothing to tie him to the person if that person should flip anything but red. It has also been justified that lynching bm is stupid because he'll die to delicious JUSTICE if he is lying about his role, and if he's not we need to let him live to use it SHIZA, so to sumarrize this, that doesnt look right, summarize YOUNGMINII hasnt contributed ANYTHING since the game started so that scum fuck is getting my vote because that's the best case i can come up with, im pretty sure this would be my vote even if i was not under the influence of substances so my fellow citizens, and even my fellow citi.zens. I URGE you to consider the case I have presented you, if you believe play like this doesnt deserve a lynch, or at least intense scrutiny, then what the fuck is wrong with you. cheers ##vote youngminii i hope i spelled his name right because i ilke spelling names right, but im sure our host will know good night gahh | ||
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