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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 21 2010 23:13 GMT
#980
I'm not a village idiot, lol.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 21 2010 23:15 GMT
#982
On July 22 2010 08:13 SiNiquity wrote:
That's the only way the bombs go off


But if got lynched right now as a MH, one of my bombs would go to waste =P.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 21 2010 23:16 GMT
#985
On July 22 2010 08:15 BrownBear wrote:
It's possible, and especially after his posting, I think we should give him a chance.

So, here's what I'm gonna do

##Unvote: DarthThienAn
Vote: chaoser


(I refuse to vote for Subversion because I think the bandwagon on him is ridiculous.)

However, Darth, here's what I'd like to see:

Stop playing like Chez. You aren't Chez. You're DTA :3 It's not the jokes, I don't mind the jokes (and I got most of them), but I'd like to see you actually throw some more serious pro-town stuff in there as well.


If I live, deal. I'll throw some random content in there with the spam. wink wink.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 21 2010 23:17 GMT
#986
On July 22 2010 08:16 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Can anyone summarize why they think chaoser is mafia?

So far I haven't seen a single convincing analysis; it just looks like people are voting for him because other people are voting for him.


That's what I'm doing!
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 21 2010 23:48 GMT
#998
On July 22 2010 08:45 chaoser wrote:
I just want to point out that a lot of people are voting for me with good solid reasons like, "voting him, someone summarize for me?" or "i skimmed the last few pages" or "oh well, whatever"


Honestly, I'd rather vote for Subversion than you, but I want to stay alive, lol.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 00:50 GMT
#1027
On July 22 2010 08:47 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 08:15 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 22 2010 08:13 SiNiquity wrote:
That's the only way the bombs go off


But if got lynched right now as a MH, one of my bombs would go to waste =P.

Alright, so the town consensus seems to be DTA is mafia or mad hatter. If he's mad hatter, I'm more determined to kill him before he gives the mafia an extra two kp instead of an extra one. I wonder puts bombs on people as jokes.

I'm not really sold on the mad hatter thing anyway; I don't thing this is an RP server where you have to act crazy if the word "mad" is in your role name. It'd make more sense to me to lay low like a vigi. He's been acting suspicious all game, its not like he laid low for two days and then did something scummy on day 3 to try to get lynched and activate bombs.

If he is mad hatter, mafia know this. If they have any idea who he suspects, here's what happens:
They know he is clueless: Mafia will vote to save him from lynch, let him put on another bomb, probably hit him tonight.
They know he is really onto them to the point of both of his bombs being on mafia by night 2: Mafia will let him live, at which point we can't tell if DTA isn't a red getting away with it.

Here's the question for people who believe he is mad hatter. If so, I bet he's stubborn and puts another bomb down tonight. What are the odds he has his bombs well placed? Damn low. Most likely scenario in that case is that he puts another bomb on someone tonight, mafia kills him and we wake up to a huge body count.

Mad Hatter is a good role for town if they can survive long enough to get two really good suspects. They have to lay low enough till they can get a really strong bead before their bombs become more benefit than liability. If DTA is mad hatter like he says, he's already got one bomb placed and just wants to survive to place one more. Why aren't his supporters asking him about his suspects? Do you trust him to kill people that you also suspect? At this point, even if he's mad hatter, I'd rather his bombs go to waste because I doubt if he's blue he survives long enough for them to be used well.


Who said I was Mad Hatter? People are only saying that because I claimed Mad Batter, and they think they're clever.

To clarify about my vote on BB: It was mostly a joke. I was suspicious of him, because of the day 1 absence and then having a terrible plan trying to get people to roleclaim when there's no reason why they should. But I wouldn't seriously vote for him, without that little nudge from whoever suggested it.

"If DTA is mad hatter like he says, he's already got one bomb placed and just wants to survive to place one more."

I never said this..


On July 22 2010 08:52 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 08:40 Pandain wrote:
On July 22 2010 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
So chaoser is suspicious because he changed his vote from BB to Subversion. Who was the first person to do that? DTA. At least Chaoser gives reasons so we have something to work with.



Haven't you understood that DTA jokes alot when he changes? I mean, they were OBVIOUS jokes too. There are better arguments against DTA, stop using that one.

Well that's interesting that you get the idea that those votes were jokes, because DTA has clarified that the vote on BB was for his bad vigi plan, and the vote on sub was for the mafia praise; they apparently weren't jokes at all. Yet, I can't blame you at all for thinking they are jokes when he plays like this. This is exactly how the teflon armor works: he does whatever he wants as a "joke" and if joking starts to make him look bad he clarifies with reasons that his actions weren't jokes at all.


vigi plan? veteran plan?

In any case, I've already explained in full my vote on BB. Mainly a joke, but I did have suspicions about BB.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 00:55 GMT
#1029
unvote
##Vote: Subversion
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 00:56 GMT
#1031
On July 22 2010 09:44 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 09:41 tree.hugger wrote:
Well, I'll pick this up again on Friday, presuming I'm not dead, so I can vote again for Subversion after whoever the hell it is we're lynching today flips green.

gg. citi.zen, you win this round.

One final note:
On July 22 2010 09:12 youngminii wrote:
On July 22 2010 09:00 tree.hugger wrote:]
If Subversion flips red, then we catch youngminii right off the bat.

I lol'd.

You doubt that you're joined at the hip with Subversion?

I don't doubt that you've been spreading misinformation via PMs, that's what I know.

You're also mistaken when you say people haven't defended DTA, I mounted one a few pages back although if it was a tossup between DTA and Subversion I'd save Subversion.


I dunno youngminii. IS there any doubt that you're joined at the hip with Subversion?

Thanks for defending me and all, but my thoughts = you and Subversion are connected.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:00 GMT
#1038
On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
@DTA
So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company.


If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^.

What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing.

lol at the reference.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:04 GMT
#1043
On July 22 2010 10:01 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:00 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
@DTA
So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company.


If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^.

What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing.

lol at the reference.


so is mafia just a dancing game until we have absolute information or something


Basically. Like... Ace? said, it's about persuading people. Because unless you got some blues pwning or some reds mess up hard, it's all about what you think.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:06 GMT
#1047
On July 22 2010 10:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:01 Divinek wrote:
On July 22 2010 10:00 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
@DTA
So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company.


If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^.

What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing.

lol at the reference.


so is mafia just a dancing game until we have absolute information or something

If everyone played like DTA, yes. That's why town shouldn't play like this and we should go after people who do.


Cool, let's kill anyone whose playstyle we don't like.


On July 22 2010 10:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:00 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 22 2010 09:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
@DTA
So now we can't even take your blue hints seriously? Dude just die already. I'm tired of trying to sift through your jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes inside of jokes without at least having Ellen Page to keep my company.


If you're mafia, yea, you'd love to see me die, wouldn't you ^_^.

What blue hints? The extremely obvious "I'm a Mad Hatter" / "I'm Godfather" claims? Seriously, if I was a blue, would I really be so obvious about it? On second thought... would I? There's nothing to draw from those posts - nothing except what you want to draw from them. And what you draw on them just depends on what bias you have, because it's all wifom, isn't it? There's no absolute way of knowing.

lol at the reference.

You also talked about not being able to use your second bomb if you were killed today. Totally hypothetical, of course. Or perhaps jokingly. Or maybe you were serious but now you are trying to retract.


I guess you'll never know.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:07 GMT
#1051
Opz, you should vote for Subversion.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:08 GMT
#1052
On July 22 2010 10:07 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:04 Bill Murray wrote:
On July 22 2010 09:12 Pandain wrote:
On July 22 2010 09:07 Subversion wrote:
And Pandain, I thought our PM love was true. </3


Subversion, I will ALWAYS love you.

Here-------far-------whereEVER you are I believe that the heart will go on.


no more celine dion or face modkill


I listened to the whole thing, I love that woman's voice Drives my wife crazy lol.


you should vote for Subversion too.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:10 GMT
#1056
May I ask, what my death would inform you guys of? Besides my own role, of course. Would it point to anyone else?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:10 GMT
#1057
On July 22 2010 10:09 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 09:00 tree.hugger wrote:
This is the stupidest thing, pretty much ever.

Is there evidence against chaoser? Nobody can really explain what it is. Is there evidence against DTA? Hardly. Is there evidence against Subversion? Yes, there is.

1) Subversion voted at the last minute to lynch someone who's bandwagon was pathetic from the start, and really had nothing behind it. But the real significance of that vote, was that it saved someone else (youngminii). We didn't know about it at the time, because BM's count was off, but the mafia (assuming for a moment that youngminii is red) would clearly have a much more accurate count. They might've assumed that BM's vote count would be a cover, but at any rate they needed to make sure to save their own member.

2) Subversion's post, in which he commented on how well the mafia were doing was (a) not true, and (b) something that I don't think I've ever heard anyone innocent ever say in a game of mafia. That's something I can see a new mafia member thinking a townie would say, but that's not something a townie would actually say.

Furthermore, lynching Subversion just makes plain sense from a town perspective. A whole host of people have put their reputations on the line to save Subversion. Nobody has said anything in chaoser's defense. Nobody has said anything in DTA's defense. They've been left to defend themselves, and, apparently to some people that looks guilty.

What does that mean? Aside from being absurdly suspicious, if we lynch Subversion, then we gain a ton of information. If Subversion flips red, then we catch youngminii right off the bat. citi.zen has been defending Subversion nearly every post he gets, albeit a little more subtlety. Almost everyone in the game is on record saying something about Subversion, which means that if we lynch him, we get to figure out who was right, and who was wrong and proceed from there.

None of the other lynch candidates are even close to as valuable as Subversion. If we lose another day lynching people who aren't mafia, then we're going to be in trouble.

Is anyone going to at least address Subversion's blue claim? I mean, apparently DTA is not even claiming blue, which was holding some people back. The softness of Subversion's claim is perhaps a bit suspicious, but why are all of his voters ignoring it?


Because I think he's red?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:21 GMT
#1061
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 22 2010 10:06 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +

*7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban)
7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn)
6] chaoser ( youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear)
3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~)
2] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divinek)
Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma)


* = first in case of a tie

not voting:
Show nested quote +
everyone voted!

double lynch:
Show nested quote +

(1/15)
Show nested quote +
iNfuNdiBuLuM


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:00 Divinek wrote:
you have a 1 beside amber when it should be 2 and you spelled my name wrong

A thousand pardons effendi!


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:00 SiNiquity wrote:
You've got 7 people on Subversion but the tally at 8.

Good catch thanks.



yea you did. See BB and Amber.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:30 GMT
#1064
On July 22 2010 10:28 Subversion wrote:
lol, now the other 2 suspects have joined forces to oust me.

Guys please wake up. Literally the only valid suspicion on me, is some stupid remark. We've got to stop banging that drum.

Please can we pick a valid target. To be honest, I don't like this vote at all. I'm not particularly convinced that chaoser and DTA are scum at all. Although if I had to choose, I'd choose DTA.

But really, I am not the right person to lynch here. When you find out I'm not scum, what information are you going to gain from that?


Have you seen this?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:38 GMT
#1072
+ Show Spoiler +

On July 20 2010 22:59 bumatlarge wrote:
Poor brownbear, suprised only one person is calling out darth for his posting youd think mafia would jump on the chance of a towny greenclaiming Godfather. Unless hes mafia, then it all makes sense. You may argue that D3 could be scum, but would you really run head first into a vote as mafia without trying to at least convince someone that certain posting is detrimental. And if darth is red, then divinek is an easy pick after. I mean, hell why not lynch everyone darth has accused after. I think he might be trying to get caught. I see no traitor role. If you agree with me I suggest ignoring everything darth says after this.

##Vote DarthThienAn


For Pyrr since I noticed this post while going through to do my own vote tally.


To accuse me would draw attention to that mafia member for calling someone out on something that is so obviously a joke / invalid evidence.

I've never said that d3 is scum. I'm implied that he should be posting more than he is, but other than that, I've never said anything one way or the other about him. My votes for him have been purely for entertainment value.

Your argument to lynch me is... because you don't understand my posting behavior. You should start talking to Pyrr.

Pyrr, I'm not sure why I should have replied to this seriously, if at all. Maybe you can paraphrase it to make it coherent?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:43 GMT
#1083
On July 22 2010 10:31 Divinek wrote:
im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm

but ill only vote for sub if it's necessary because i see him as more useful for us to lynch than darth at this point(info etc), since i think it's reasonable for either of them to be red it's all about convincing then and sub has convinced me to be more red than darth so far

even if darth is being a silly billy, i have faith he'll help us the next day or die

so is darth on the block if it's a tie right now or what?


Dude why would you tell people about that.


On July 22 2010 10:33 Subversion wrote:
Yeah, I've read it.

I don't really buy it though. I don't think youngminii has been any kind of vehement supporter of mine. I don't really feel anyone has consistently supported me, although many people have pointed out that I'm most likely innocent.

And the reason about my day 1 vote is stupid. He wrote that as if he hasn't read my posts and posts a defending that. Posts which really made perfect sense. The only reason my vote looked suspicious at all was because people fucked up the count.


I looked through your "defense" awhile ago. It was basically you saying "Why is everyone voting for me? I just bandwagoned because I didn't time to go through the thread, etc." That is a GREAT defense (to clarify). I'm not sure why people let you off the hook in the first place at all.

Your vote was suspicious to me regardless of the results or who you voted before, because of WHEN you voted. Anyone who voted last minute like you and BB did should be under scrutiny immediately. Hence, the attention that has been given to you two.

Combine that with the connection I see between you and youngminii and a couple others, you make a great lynch target.

On July 22 2010 10:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 10:31 Divinek wrote:
im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm

but ill only vote for sub if it's necessary because i see him as more useful for us to lynch than darth at this point(info etc), since i think it's reasonable for either of them to be red it's all about convincing then and sub has convinced me to be more red than darth so far

even if darth is being a silly billy, i have faith he'll help us the next day or die

so is darth on the block if it's a tie right now or what?

Pretty sure the last vote change is darth going chaoser to subversion so darth is on the block. He's not gonna help us tonight if blue he's gonna put a bomb on some innocent he's probably never mentioned and then deaths everywhere.


So Pyrr, are you normally this bad at mafia, or is it just this game?


On July 22 2010 10:37 Roffles wrote:
When does day end again? 12:00 KST?

Cause something someone said makes me wanna change my vote, I just wanna see how much time I have left to ponder about my decision.


12 EDT. that's like 11 KST? I don't know. But it's in like 2 hours and a bit.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 22 2010 01:45 GMT
#1084
On July 22 2010 10:41 SouthRawrea wrote:
Edit: Removed because what I wrote made no sense.


o_o. you're not allowed to do that. BM I demand to see approval of this edit!


On July 22 2010 10:40 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
as it stands DTA was first to reach 7? Or subversion?


Pretty sure I'm first right now. Which doesn't really make sense for me to unvote chaoser. But w/e.
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