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Fucking morons...seriously So South claims MH. Then he makes up some weird stupid story saying BC claimed MH to him and I guess unclaimed being MH?
Does South's story even make sense?
1. Obviously this is a Bull Shit story in which case South tries to deflect suspicion off him to BC (cause there was some there anyways)
2. The stupid story fails and we kill both them. Why would both want each other killed, BC initiated reasoning and was the one who put South in the lynching corner to begin with.
3. Now South seems to want to drag BC with him.
My policy is not to not trust anyone 100% that includes BC, but does this actually seem right to you in what's going on. Why would 2 mafia members expose themselves like this right now, why wouldn't they try to save at least one of them even if it is just a little bit of time?
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On July 26 2010 09:20 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2010 09:15 Tricode wrote:
Fucking morons...seriously So South claims MH. Then he makes up some weird stupid story saying BC claimed MH to him and I guess unclaimed being MH?
Does South's story even make sense?
1. Obviously this is a Bull Shit story in which case South tries to deflect suspicion off him to BC (cause there was some there anyways)
2. The stupid story fails and we kill both them. Why would both want each other killed, BC initiated reasoning and was the one who put South in the lynching corner to begin with.
3. Now South seems to want to drag BC with him.
My policy is not to not trust anyone 100% that includes BC, but does this actually seem right to you in what's going on. Why would 2 mafia members expose themselves like this right now, why wouldn't they try to save at least one of them even if it is just a little bit of time? 1. Well originally BC was trying to save South from getting lynched. But you're right, I do have a little suscipsion that South is just trying to bring down BC with him. Though maybe that wouldn't make much sense considering we were (assumingly) going to lynch him anyway. We'll have to wait for night at least to decide for sure.
When? BC started South's lynch. he only went for citizen in hopes in gathering more info and a confirmed DT. Which we didn't get cause Citizen lied.
Either case, I don't recall him defending south at all, he just switched his target for information he hoped would be there.
The only issue now is, BC is trying to make clear is that Zek and mystery DT aren't also liars and that we should all keep that in mind.
I do suggest we target South for
1. Claiming MH which he lied about and is saying BC is the real claimer. Which is obviously stupid, fishy, and scummy as hell. South is the likeliest of targets.
2. It will clear up Zek and the dt's name.
Now it might also make BC look a bit more town though I suggest going with the saying "Keep your friend's close, but your enemies closer"
When the time is right and BC looks suspicious again we can strike him down with out question. It also may lead to more info. Though if anything goes wrong like i said, we just strike him down.
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On July 26 2010 09:37 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2010 08:48 BrownBear wrote:On July 26 2010 08:14 tree.hugger wrote:
So that vote when we were choosing between citi.zen and Southrawrea because both were roleclaiming MH, and only one of them could be correct?
Well it turns out that when citi.zen claimed, he was actually doing it as a proxy, so in fact the entire assumption based on that lynch was invalid. Should've lynched Southrawrea then. Damn we screwed that up. Except Southrawrea was acting as a proxy for BC so in fact the whole reason between us lynching people the last day was a card tower of lies.
Hahahaha! Ahaha! .... Ha!....
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I advocate the immediate lynching of Zeks and BC because if we're going down, we might as well take out the dishonest anti-town players who got us into this mess. *ducks in* Even after their plan has completely gone to shit, he's still trying to save South. Unbelievable. *ducks out* No, let's kill South too. I wanted to kill the people who got people to proxy for them, but after that we should probably lynch South and Tricode, and then start over. I have no problem killing South.
You want to lynch south and after we lynch south you want to lynch him again with me?
For what reason would you want to lynch me especially if south turns to be red?
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On July 26 2010 09:47 tree.hugger wrote:
Did anybody involved in this, anyone, just stop to think for one moment that this was bad for the town? Did anyone who proxy'd someone to claim for them realize, when they saw my posts about citi.zen being the better lynch, or youngminii's posts about South being the better lynch, that the town was making a crucial decision based upon people lying?
Did it bother you, Zeks, South, BC that he that the town was making a decision based upon facts that weren't true? I mean, the whole premise of that lynch was to rolecheck competing claims. We didn't do that. We didn't rule out anything. We're back at Day 2, and on Day 2, we were back at Day 1.
And yet nobody thought for just a second and realized that through their incredible scheming , they were shooting the town in the foot. Unbelievable.
Of course it all makes sense now. I remarked to Infun that South's 'claim' was suspicious because he never once said the words "mad hatter" in them. He just heavily implied it. I said several times in the thread that citi.zen being citi.zen, he's probably making some ballsy play. But I guess I was just naive, I guess I just assumed that someone, on either side, would play with their brain, and not with their ego. I guess I assumed that at least one side had the town's interests at heart. But having been hyuked by both sides?
It's really annoying.
^ It's spam like this that leads us back to day 1. You didn't mention anything in why you want to lynch me or anything that is productive for the town.
Thanks for adding to the 98% of spam that is in this game.
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##Vote SouthRawrea
I will start considering BC more, but until then I will leave my vote on South permanently.
Losing a DT was horrible for us sigh.
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Zek since it is day time and you are the Dt's mouthpiece, do you and your mystery DT have any confirmed Reds or has your dt only found townies?
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##Vote SouthRawrea
##Vote rastaban
Apparently BC is both MH/DT, because that makes perfect sense and only adds a pile of shit and more confusion.
The fact that some how BC claimed to two different roles through pm is highly unlikely and very risky move and once again still unlikely.
These two idiots are just causing confusion and trying to push BC's lynch.
I find the margin very slim that BC is red (though hell anything is possible), but as more accusations and claims are made about BC, the more fucked up, weird, and terrible the stories get.
Please actually consider and analyze what is being said.
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On July 26 2010 15:35 BrownBear wrote:
Guys, why are you even bothering arguing with BC. He's mafia. He's just trying to cause as much ruckus as possible before he gets lynched and has to shut up.
Just ignore him and the problem will resolve itself. In a very short, terminal fashion.
Can you provide any definite proof of your claim of BC?
I would like an explanation that isn't bullshit or a manipulative of what actually occurred.
If you can provide me with that information then I will ignore BC and vote for him.
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On July 26 2010 15:43 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2010 15:40 Tricode wrote:On July 26 2010 15:35 BrownBear wrote:
Guys, why are you even bothering arguing with BC. He's mafia. He's just trying to cause as much ruckus as possible before he gets lynched and has to shut up.
Just ignore him and the problem will resolve itself. In a very short, terminal fashion. Can you provide any definite proof of your claim of BC? I would like an explanation that isn't bullshit or a manipulative of what actually occurred. If you can provide me with that information then I will ignore BC and vote for him. 1) BC decided my roleclaiming plan was idiotic, despite the fact that it benefits town. 2) BC decided instead of going for South (who was 99% confirmed mafia) we should go for citi.zen. You see how that turned out. 3) BC hasn't really been sparking town discussion, he's been flaming people, calling every plan stupid, deriding every player as playing poorly, etc. This is very scummy, as he is intentionally trying to break down town unity rather than build it. 4) BC has been on the wrong side of every vote so far. You want more? I've got more.
A lot of people can fit that category.
1. He found flaws in your plan which I was not comfortable with your plan as well. Don't make it a personal offense.
2. BC INITIATED THE SOUTH LYNCH! Otherwise no one or only a few of us would of voted for him! He wanted Citizen for info, citizen lied and that screwed things up.
3. The whole town has been in a flame war and FoS on everyone. Seriously you are just going to pick BC over everyone else who has spammed, flamed, and FoS randomly by 10x?
4. Uh everyone has. I believe BC's only mistake was changing his vote from South.
Either case that is also the town's fault. The town should of stayed with South. BC said Cit was a good lynch for info but still claimed South would give us a red.
So once again, please give me some decent valid reasoning. From my stand point I would say he has only done a few wrong moves and has only brought suspicion on him, but not enough to make any claims.
Though if you look at what other people say about BC and how it doesn't make sense one bit, such as all these role claims about him and weird ass stories.
Doesn't it seem obvious that mafia are trying to take advantage of this scenario? Even South is trying to vote for Cob. Wouldn't he try to at least let his mafia member live for one more night?
This whole crap about Cob is fishy even the stories about him defending South which he didn't is BS!.
So please once again give me information that would make me want to vote for BC. Otherwise he has done no worse then any other townie in this game.
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##Vote Rastaban
He knew BC was going to die so I think he just added crap to keep him/her self alive and suspicion off him as if he/she were a good towny and made a lame ass fake post with fake messages.
The writing just doesn't seem like BC from how long I have known him. They lack his intellectual language and there are just some things I just never seen him write.
Though there is still a chance i could be wrong about this, either case I believe those pm's are fake and the time in which he tried to help get BC killed didn't really do much of a push to get BC killed.
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On August 01 2010 15:37 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2010 14:32 Tricode wrote:
##Vote Rastaban
He knew BC was going to die so I think he just added crap to keep him/her self alive and suspicion off him as if he/she were a good towny and made a lame ass fake post with fake messages.
The writing just doesn't seem like BC from how long I have known him. They lack his intellectual language and there are just some things I just never seen him write.
Though there is still a chance i could be wrong about this, either case I believe those pm's are fake and the time in which he tried to help get BC killed didn't really do much of a push to get BC killed. If they are on a mafia team together I would think BC would have wrote up fake PMs for him. And BC could always have wrote weirdly so this seems wifom to me. They seemed like BC to me, so I dunno.
Well depends how much time and effort BC would put into this game where he would be such a mastermind to make his own pms and give them to rastaban. And if he did make them up for rastaban, then maybe BC couldn't replicate the convo in how he would speak perfectly.
Personally I just didn't feel like it was him talking as I imagine how much we talk through IMs and such daily.
I could be wrong however so go ahead and vote who you guys believe is a better suited target.
To add, I still find it strange how BC was making all these "claims" to people such as MH and DT. With out getting in trouble or caught earlier especially when he put himself as Vet for his G/F role. Especially with his style of how I have personally seen him approach people.
He is more cautious and kinda seeps slowly in like a spider and a fly.
Though he was a little different this game then how I seen him before or how he is with me.
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Also, other then me, who is the least active of us? Just to have someone else to look at and analyze under the suspicion raidar
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On August 01 2010 17:23 Misder wrote:
It was me who is the least active, but now, it seems like there are others as inactive as me.
I'm just gonna continue to vote for rastaban. I still believe that BC is smart enough to create a fake pm for the mafia group in order to get rid of any suspicion of a mafia member.
#Vote rastaban
You mean create one for rastaban to use lol or make a bad conversation that leads him no where since Rastaban isn't a blue thus making rastaban kinda useless to BC to begin with?
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I just realized there are vets out there still. Forgot about that when i made my last statement. Though I'm not sure how big a difference it makes.
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Note: Rastaban hasn't posted since pg. 161 and to add the only posts he makes are all about Tree.Hugger.
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On August 04 2010 16:36 flamewheel wrote:
I'm flamewheel!
Hi Flamewheel! I'm Tricode!
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On August 04 2010 16:52 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 16:47 Tricode wrote:On August 04 2010 16:36 flamewheel wrote:
I'm flamewheel! Hi Flamewheel! I'm Tricode! Hello! Out of curiosity, why do people capitalize my name?
That's because we are taught to capitalize names. Such as your real name. At least I believe that is a custom for most ;p.
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On August 04 2010 17:13 Bill Murray wrote:sorry for the gaps, guys, but doing vote counts for 2/3 days for half a month or more really can add up on a man's spirit. i really am one of the most active players when i play in a game, but will probably refrain from modding again. BrownBear's post gave me confidence. I was seeing people say that chaoser wasn't the leading wagon, and I was thinking WTF? Is my count off? But I shouldn't have been second guessing myself. Show nested quote +
4]chaoser (brownbear, rastaban, d3_Crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia)
2] pyrrhuloxia (~OpZ~, Misder)
1]Rastaban (tricode)
1] brownbear (protactinium)
1] Misder (Divinek)
Abstaining: chaoser
is the vote count i got from my last one. if it's wrong, SORRY. the fact people were saying one person was supposed to be lynched when in fact it was another is what made this delay this by an entire 28 hour period or whatever. chaoser is to be killed. It is now night, and will be night for a shortened period of time where I want this game to actually play out. The night will end at 10 KST regardless of if I am here or not.
Really couldn't tell us his role if he is being illed and it is night now? I'm sure at this point (since there are no clues) we don't really care for a fancy story >< we just want to know the role please.
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On August 04 2010 17:19 flamewheel wrote:
I'm 99.3% assuming Townie.
I would prefer you being wrong and me being wrong in my vote, but meh, we will see when and if ever we get a chance to see what he flips!
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