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On July 23 2010 05:07 flamewheel wrote: They'll never catch me as scum! Because I'll never play as scum! Also because I don't play.
I never see you or Qatol play, did I just happen to be here during a time you were taking a break or do generally never play and prefer to watch?
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On July 24 2010 05:35 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2010 05:07 flamewheel wrote: They'll never catch me as scum! Because I'll never play as scum! Also because I don't play. I never see you or Qatol play, did I just happen to be here during a time you were taking a break or do generally never play and prefer to watch?
he played recently in Incognito's game. Qatol played in Ace's PYP Mafia a couple months ago, but he's generally busy I believe. flamewheel has all the time in the world though.
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On July 24 2010 06:06 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2010 05:35 rastaban wrote:On July 23 2010 05:07 flamewheel wrote: They'll never catch me as scum! Because I'll never play as scum! Also because I don't play. I never see you or Qatol play, did I just happen to be here during a time you were taking a break or do generally never play and prefer to watch? he played recently in Incognito's game. Qatol played in Ace's PYP Mafia a couple months ago, but he's generally busy I believe. flamewheel has all the time in the world though. I played in Ace's Mafia World, Mafia Resurrection, Mafia 4, 5, 7, Smurf Mafia, Mini Mafia I, and PYP Mafia. I also hosted Mafia 8 and co-hosted Mafia 15. However, I am generally pretty busy and just don't have the time to play very often. I participate in most of the balance/setup talks though and still try to at least generally follow the games when I have the time.
Flamewheel has never really played all that much. He stopped playing and started hosting after only playing in like 2-3 games I believe and never really went back to playing regularly.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On July 24 2010 10:23 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2010 06:06 DarthThienAn wrote:On July 24 2010 05:35 rastaban wrote:On July 23 2010 05:07 flamewheel wrote: They'll never catch me as scum! Because I'll never play as scum! Also because I don't play. I never see you or Qatol play, did I just happen to be here during a time you were taking a break or do generally never play and prefer to watch? he played recently in Incognito's game. Qatol played in Ace's PYP Mafia a couple months ago, but he's generally busy I believe. flamewheel has all the time in the world though. I played in Ace's Mafia World, Mafia Resurrection, Mafia 4, 5, 7, Smurf Mafia, Mini Mafia I, and PYP Mafia. I also hosted Mafia 8 and co-hosted Mafia 15. However, I am generally pretty busy and just don't have the time to play very often. I participate in most of the balance/setup talks though and still try to at least generally follow the games when I have the time. Flamewheel has never really played all that much. He stopped playing and started hosting after only playing in like 2-3 games I believe and never really went back to playing regularly. Playing is overrated! Become a lurker like me and you can surreptitiously gather information on everybody, then jump into a game and save a lot of time!
Hosting >>>>> playing
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On July 25 2010 07:52 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2010 10:23 Qatol wrote:On July 24 2010 06:06 DarthThienAn wrote:On July 24 2010 05:35 rastaban wrote:On July 23 2010 05:07 flamewheel wrote: They'll never catch me as scum! Because I'll never play as scum! Also because I don't play. I never see you or Qatol play, did I just happen to be here during a time you were taking a break or do generally never play and prefer to watch? he played recently in Incognito's game. Qatol played in Ace's PYP Mafia a couple months ago, but he's generally busy I believe. flamewheel has all the time in the world though. I played in Ace's Mafia World, Mafia Resurrection, Mafia 4, 5, 7, Smurf Mafia, Mini Mafia I, and PYP Mafia. I also hosted Mafia 8 and co-hosted Mafia 15. However, I am generally pretty busy and just don't have the time to play very often. I participate in most of the balance/setup talks though and still try to at least generally follow the games when I have the time. Flamewheel has never really played all that much. He stopped playing and started hosting after only playing in like 2-3 games I believe and never really went back to playing regularly. Playing is overrated! Become a lurker like me and you can surreptitiously gather information on everybody, then jump into a game and save a lot of time! Hosting >>>>> playing
The sad thing is, you will never know what happens underground..+ Show Spoiler +Pm Land, where stuff happens that no one knows about or where nothing happens and you can pretend like something happened.. or something like that.
Unless...+ Show Spoiler +..you can read my Pms... Do you have connections with the Mods? + Show Spoiler + Are you Haxor? Ok, we have to be careful with flame here -- Remember, don't play with fire!
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On July 25 2010 08:54 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 07:52 flamewheel wrote:On July 24 2010 10:23 Qatol wrote:On July 24 2010 06:06 DarthThienAn wrote:On July 24 2010 05:35 rastaban wrote:On July 23 2010 05:07 flamewheel wrote: They'll never catch me as scum! Because I'll never play as scum! Also because I don't play. I never see you or Qatol play, did I just happen to be here during a time you were taking a break or do generally never play and prefer to watch? he played recently in Incognito's game. Qatol played in Ace's PYP Mafia a couple months ago, but he's generally busy I believe. flamewheel has all the time in the world though. I played in Ace's Mafia World, Mafia Resurrection, Mafia 4, 5, 7, Smurf Mafia, Mini Mafia I, and PYP Mafia. I also hosted Mafia 8 and co-hosted Mafia 15. However, I am generally pretty busy and just don't have the time to play very often. I participate in most of the balance/setup talks though and still try to at least generally follow the games when I have the time. Flamewheel has never really played all that much. He stopped playing and started hosting after only playing in like 2-3 games I believe and never really went back to playing regularly. Playing is overrated! Become a lurker like me and you can surreptitiously gather information on everybody, then jump into a game and save a lot of time! Hosting >>>>> playing The sad thing is, you will never know what happens underground.. + Show Spoiler +Pm Land, where stuff happens that no one knows about or where nothing happens and you can pretend like something happened.. or something like that. Unless... + Show Spoiler +..you can read my Pms... Do you have connections with the Mods? + Show Spoiler + Are you Haxor? Ok, we have to be careful with flame here -- Remember, don't play with fire! I have heavy connections with mods! And banlings.
And cute itw bunnies.
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On July 25 2010 10:07 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 08:54 Chezinu wrote:On July 25 2010 07:52 flamewheel wrote:On July 24 2010 10:23 Qatol wrote:On July 24 2010 06:06 DarthThienAn wrote:On July 24 2010 05:35 rastaban wrote:On July 23 2010 05:07 flamewheel wrote: They'll never catch me as scum! Because I'll never play as scum! Also because I don't play. I never see you or Qatol play, did I just happen to be here during a time you were taking a break or do generally never play and prefer to watch? he played recently in Incognito's game. Qatol played in Ace's PYP Mafia a couple months ago, but he's generally busy I believe. flamewheel has all the time in the world though. I played in Ace's Mafia World, Mafia Resurrection, Mafia 4, 5, 7, Smurf Mafia, Mini Mafia I, and PYP Mafia. I also hosted Mafia 8 and co-hosted Mafia 15. However, I am generally pretty busy and just don't have the time to play very often. I participate in most of the balance/setup talks though and still try to at least generally follow the games when I have the time. Flamewheel has never really played all that much. He stopped playing and started hosting after only playing in like 2-3 games I believe and never really went back to playing regularly. Playing is overrated! Become a lurker like me and you can surreptitiously gather information on everybody, then jump into a game and save a lot of time! Hosting >>>>> playing The sad thing is, you will never know what happens underground.. + Show Spoiler +Pm Land, where stuff happens that no one knows about or where nothing happens and you can pretend like something happened.. or something like that. Unless... + Show Spoiler +..you can read my Pms... Do you have connections with the Mods? + Show Spoiler + Are you Haxor? Ok, we have to be careful with flame here -- Remember, don't play with fire! I have heavy connections with mods! And banlings. And cute itw bunnies.
LOLOLOL there is reason why I always provide QuickTopic on the role PM. I can see most of the interaction in every private groups.
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When is the OP going to be updated? Or has it been updating and I simply haven't noticed.
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just pm spam ace im sure that'll motivate him and he'll enjoy it
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Biggest thing you need to add to this guide (I don't see it in TOC so I'm assuming it's not being touched on):
Adaptability.
The best scum can adapt on the fly when something does go awry and talk their way out of anything. It's literally the best weapon you can have. It's what gets you to the next phase when your plan that you laid out is completely and utterly fucked over.
The rest of your guide revolves heavily around Occam's Razor.
Also, there comes a point in time where all scum lie. If you're trying to push a mislynch on a townie, at some point, a player will ask "Why are you pushing this lynch?" and the answer has to be "Because I think he is scum." You obviously don't think he is scum, because you know he isn't. But you have to say it.
Some of the best scum players are incredible liars and can make you believe any word that flows from their mouth.
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Tip for Mafia: If your mafia don't create a forum one can easily find, especially in a clue game.
http://tlmafia16.maxforum.org/2010/06/06/day-2/
Tip for Town: Google people's names especially in a clue game!!!
I guess that's why it's a noob game. What ever happened to araav?
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Google is not your best friend, Chezinu.
This is why you create a hidden forum then make it go invisible.
Also to win you play like Ver, I have decided.
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aaaaaaaace has so much updating to do
it's been a month
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been doing lots of work lately, calm down I will eventually finish
Besides the short amounts of discussion this generated so far were more than worth it ^_^
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Gotta give it a password and make your name an anagram or something.
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ummm sorry to bump this but i was trying to learn mafia and came across this thread but found that this was incomplete and was wondering if there was a finished version somewhere? seeing that this is a pretty old thread i assume it is finished already?
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Blazinghand
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This thread already contains a basic outline of the winning mindset of a scum player. Blaze is right in that the majority of your usable knowledge is going to come from playing games, because you'll learn how certain players argue, meta, a whole myriad of things that Ace's guide could never incorporate even in its complete form.
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United States2186 Posts
I think things have reached the level where town play is a lot higher than mafia. I've seen plenty of good town play whenever I've looked but not too many expert mafia games (only liar game and wheel of fortune come to mind, and this was mostly individualistic). Clearly the reason for this is the abundance of town guides and lack of mafia ones!!
If you are interested in finishing this ace and want my help let me know.
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I can help too.
I know VE and I were interested in doing it a few months ago and then we kinda just never got around to it.
e: also, I think town play fluctuates between decent and bad, whereas mafia play on the whole is almost always bad.
I think it's just complacency over the last 9-10 months with mafia winning repeatedly by doing nothing (particularly prevalent among newer players)
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