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citi.zen
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citi.zen
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 08 2010 01:26 Hesmyrr wrote: I think this is better to do night 4.Also mass roleclaim is stupid as hell, but I do would like role claim coming from coroner. I looked at the role list and coroner ability activates before mafia kill and recruitment, which makes him a ideal role that can be mod verified. Considering the situation if there are any other Coroner alive, as Dream Catcher who caught the coroner, I recommend him to claim now and pop the ability immediately after n3. It's worth it to absolutely confirm the validity of youngminii-citi.zen conflict. It's a long shot, but throwing it out here. So if there really is coroner... speak out now? By far I believe citi.zen is godfather and youngminii is detective. If this is the case we almost can't lose. If youngminii is goon and citi.zen is goon (a distinct possibility), roleblocking youngminii will reveal suspicion on the circumstances. This costs far less than a coroner, and we can still coroner on night 4 should we choose to. By popping coroner on night 3 in this circumstance, we almost assuredly won't have the tools to counter another DT-fingers-someone claim tomorrow should the godfather be alive. Delaying to at least night 4 improves this situation greatly. If youngminii is godfather and citi.zen is goon (an unlikely possibility), roleblocking youngminii and having the mafia KP go through will make us trusting of youngminii as DT. We can then pop the coroner on night 4 and get absolute confirmation of the situation. In this case, since we won't be roleblocking youngminii on night 4, he will be getting 1 new recruit. Howerever, since we will know youngminii is neither goon nor trustworthy, he'll be lynched on day 5 and we'll be in a very good position as town. So in summary, the second situation benefits immensely from coroner delaying to night 4. The third situation is about a wash. The first situation is irrelevant. Therefore the coroner should wait till day 4 to claim (should we even have one) at the earliest. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
YellowInk's plan sounds like a solid plan, in the case we are extremely lucky or Darth was awesome and gave us 3 coroners. However, we shouldn't really be planning for these longshot circumstances, we should be planning for what's most likely. In that vein, Hesmyrr has some great ideas and a good solid summary of the last 7 pages or so, so I highly recommend you read that, especially those of you prone to skimming/ignoring the thread sometimes (coughcoughChezcoughcoughAbensoncoughcoughme) Also, mass roleclaim is no longer necessary, given the information we got last night. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On July 08 2010 02:02 citi.zen wrote: Too bad I made such a big mistake. Must be more careful next time... It's how you learn. I make a huge mistake every couple games or so ^^ | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 08 2010 03:34 BrownBear wrote: You? Never...It's how you learn. I make a huge mistake every couple games or so ^^ | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On July 08 2010 03:43 YellowInk wrote: You? Never... T_T But seriously, though. Mistakes happen. Generally to me. Are we for sure roleblocking youngminii tonight? I'm still not convinced that he's a better target than BM is. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 08 2010 03:51 BrownBear wrote: Yes. Simply because the most likely way for us to lose is for youngminii to be a goon. If youngminii is for real, we've already practically got the victory.T_T But seriously, though. Mistakes happen. Generally to me. Are we for sure roleblocking youngminii tonight? I'm still not convinced that he's a better target than BM is. | ||
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citi.zen
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
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youngminii
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
On July 07 2010 15:18 DCLXVI wrote: It took almost 10 pages of us telling you he lied and how for you to figure it out? I don't buy that, surely you can't be that oblivious. I brought up the point about C. calling you town about 8 pages ago, which all depends on his playstyle. The argument against you now is the fact that you spent 10 pages yelling and pointing fingers in all directions while ignoring what everyone else was posting. i don't always read what you type, admittedly | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 08 2010 04:46 youngminii wrote: It's not just 2 scum vs ~13 townies. It's 2 scum vs 13 townies in a game that would have been designed as blue heavy and with a confirmed DT and hidden (I hope, BM lol) jailkeeper(s).You know, it's not THAT unreasonable for 2 scum to overcome 13~ townies. I'm just saying, having the DT in the game is a 100% win. Without, it's 99%. I mean, obviously I don't want to get lynched (assuming scum withhold their NK) and unless there's another DT in the game, I'm not too sure that roleblocking me as a check is the best idea. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
if you look back on prior pages, across5julys had to correct me on the lack of a night 1 check. it's just very awkward, and i'm not ever going to get use to that, so you all will continue having to correct me. the better players, ver, qatol, probably even incognito really love the mad hatter role, but criticize the way it is used. I hope it is in the hands of someone like Chezinu who has the ability to actually find reds. Otherwise, it is likely that the idiot hatter will be taking at least one blue out with him if he has a bomb on me. If you DO have a bomb on me, I advise moving it. My claiming was not to disrupt town. I am a veteran. I was looking to soak a hit from claiming jailkeeper. I feel safe claiming veteran now that we know who the godfather is (assuming youngminii isn't lying) | ||
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Bill Murray
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 08 2010 05:28 Bill Murray wrote: This is more believable, but if this is true, you were way over the top with it.sorry that i misunderstood. i thought there was no reason he couldnt be a dt, and it took someone actually saying that. if you look back on prior pages, across5julys had to correct me on the lack of a night 1 check. it's just very awkward, and i'm not ever going to get use to that, so you all will continue having to correct me. the better players, ver, qatol, probably even incognito really love the mad hatter role, but criticize the way it is used. I hope it is in the hands of someone like Chezinu who has the ability to actually find reds. Otherwise, it is likely that the idiot hatter will be taking at least one blue out with him if he has a bomb on me. If you DO have a bomb on me, I advise moving it. My claiming was not to disrupt town. I am a veteran. I was looking to soak a hit from claiming jailkeeper. I feel safe claiming veteran now that we know who the godfather is (assuming youngminii isn't lying) way And it still doesn't explain why you wanted 'another' jailkeeper to out themselves, so there is that. | ||
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YellowInk
United States578 Posts
On July 08 2010 05:29 Bill Murray wrote: Add in the fact that you claimed this today instead of, say, tomorrow... you know, after the mafia make their hits based on your claim.being the veteran, though, the only way you all can counterract me having 2 lives is stupidly lynching me and wasting a soakable hit You're a liar, Bill Murray. | ||
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
if im townie, which should i claim? jailkeeper if i'm jailkeeper, which should i claim? if im veteran, which should i claim? jailkeeper | ||
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