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citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 07:29 GMT

#484

Here:

##Kill L

No d-vig here.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 15:54 GMT

#494

I want roleclaim pm's by tonight.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 16:31 GMT

#500

In a game with pm's and a "normal" setup mass role claiming is awful. L knew this.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 16:36 GMT

#501

A5j is now pretty confirmed. I will vote to Lynch vivi next.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 17:31 GMT

#507

On June 15 2010 02:27 Foolishness wrote:

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To go by history, Vivi57 is usually inactive when he's townie, and very active if he has a blue role. Not as sure as when he's mafia, but I'd go for RoL just in case.

You're pretty confirmed too I guess, with A5J.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 17:43 GMT

#510

On June 15 2010 02:37 Foolishness wrote:

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You mind explaining any of that?

If your discussion with L was all scripted you deserve the Oscar.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 18:26 GMT

#512

It"s not my fault you don't see it. Now read L's posts to find the other reds.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 19:17 GMT

#517

On June 15 2010 03:38 redtooth wrote:

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On June 13 2010 07:47 redtooth wrote:

On June 13 2010 04:46 flamewheel wrote:

On June 13 2010 04:07 meeple wrote:

On June 13 2010 03:00 MooCow wrote:

On June 13 2010 02:50 meeple wrote:

On June 13 2010 02:46 MooCow wrote:

On June 13 2010 02:25 meeple wrote:

On June 12 2010 12:56 L wrote:

On June 12 2010 11:51 meeple wrote:
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lol well apparently you're the man with the plan... also I was asking the town. No need to get all defensive

I'm not being defensive. I'm wondering why you're purposely not answering your own question. This post hasn't really answered the question either, so feel free to get to it whenever you feel like doing some work.

It was a question to make people think and discuss... if they're both checking the same person (me?) then we can see which detective to trust and kinda follow their lead.

I think we should check on someone that we want to lynch to help find out the sanity level of the DTs.

So we should decide on someone soon because the night is almost over. ACTIVITY?!

The problem with checking someone that we want to lynch... is that they might turn up red and while that would bag up some red it also wouldn't tell us anything about the sanity of the cops.

Eh?! Getting a red like that is totally worth not knowing the sanity level of the DT's imo.

Besides it only slows the us down by a bit if we don't know the DT sanity level but it's a huge gain getting a mafia.

What do you guys think of Chez? If he is going to get mod killed from inactivity we can experiment on him. I hope not though because he seems like a fun mafia guy to play with.

Yeah you're right... it was just something that occurred to me.

I don't agree with lynching Chez on the grounds of inactivity though. If I have some time to go through posts I'll come up with more suspects.

Oh he's not inactive. He'll be working behind the scenes, plus there isn't too much to analyze on the first cycle...

chezinu is the charliemurphy of the mafia forum. there is no such thing as him "working behind the scenes" lol.

On June 13 2010 07:04 Radfield wrote:
Likelihood of dying tonight: High

trust me, you're not that important. on that point, only 1 person in this game is really "important" enough to warrant a kill without having claimed blue. and that person is L. when he's alive tomorrow, we have some serious questions to ask.

btw to those jumping on me for inactivity, i'm keeping up with the thread. i'm just not refreshing it every 5 seconds like i used to in previous games since i got burned out quickly by retarded flawed arguments. this game there just seems to be more spam though.

ok guys i had a lot of work the past weekend so i couldn't keep up with the thread as much as i would have liked. quoting my post on why L should have died immediately. good job citizen for actually pulling the trigger though. L was so scummy and the fact that he was alive was the biggest incrimination against him.

if citizen is playing his role right then A5J should flip red tomorrow. doesn't look like voting could swing in any other direction but go ahead and stack it against him anyways.

also, foolishness is probably not mafia aligned. radfield seems scummy or retarded, can't tell atm.

A5J? Really? Are you reading the thread at all?

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 19:24 GMT

#518

On June 15 2010 01:48 Radfield wrote:
Wow wow wow. Either an amazing shot Citizen, or you're mafia and hoping to get all our roleclaims and allay all suspicion.

An extremely ballsy move actually, considering that if L flipped green, then we would certianly use the next lynch on you. Doubly hurting the town.

I'm still very ok with lynching AFJ, but if people don't agree I'm fine with that.

List of fairly inactive players:

vivi57
redtooth
RoL
Ohn

I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz.

And to this... what % would you assign to the likelihood of me being mafia? Why would it make sense for me to kill the GF right now instead of a goon if I wanted credibility? Furthermore, there was no immediate danger of being lynched for either me or L, why not save the hit for later when it could be decisive /end the game?

You know I of all people love a good conspiracy theory, but give me a break - this one makes no sense.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 19:29 GMT

#519

Finally: please go back and read L's posts. He left a thick paper trail, it's impossible not to find clues there. I still don't have much time for this game so may not get to it in time, but at this point we don't need shots in the dark - the evidence is in L's posts. Please read them.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 20:50 GMT

#530

Chez: I am blue, not 3rd party.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 14 2010 23:20 GMT

#545

On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:

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We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that)

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This sounds fine. Will vote ohn - thought his lack of reaction to my day one vote was a bit odd. At any rate he ain't helping us.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 15 2010 20:26 GMT

#634

I will ask the vigilante to hit MooCow tonight and we'll lynch Radfield tomorrow.

Good show.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 15 2010 21:06 GMT

#640

On June 16 2010 05:54 MooCow wrote:
Yea I must be REALLY bad at this game for citizen ( if he's town ) to want to kill me.

I'm not even trying to look like mafia and i'm DT but I still come off as mafia!

2 faces -__-;; T__T.

You actually did fine this game. The team strategy wasn't bad either, but it did fail.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 15 2010 23:32 GMT

#666

Radfield is a good player making too many mistakes in this game. Also, he is posting too many weak, general strategy ideas (but very little about L's initial plan) and very little pointed player analysis. His lists of suspects are consistently horrendous. He also thinks we should spend more days figuring out the DT sanity - even though we can't due to the naive possibility + the fact that one of the DTs lied and will continue to confuse us (read MooCow). Radfield's first list of suspects:

On June 14 2010 01:17 Radfield wrote:

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I think lynching moocow right now is premature. If he's telling the truth then we hurt ourselves doubly: the loss of a town aligned player, and giving the mafia less blue targets to shoot at.

I realize that by focusing on AFJ today we're kind of giving the less active players a pass. But we can focus on them tomorrow.

I'd like to know the opinions on whom we should lynch from these people:

Vivi57
citi.zen
Foolishness
redtooth
RebirthOfLeGend

I'd like to hear everyone else's opinion as well, but these 5 are a bit on the inactive side.

Pretty weak for someone who is good at this game, but it happens. What's worse is his most recent post of suspects:

On June 15 2010 11:17 Radfield wrote:
I agree 100% with foolishness. By having our dt's check the same person, and then subsequently killing that person, we should be able to get very close to figuring out the sanities. I also think that the results should not be made public, and should be pm'ed to two people before having the results released.

My absence is due to exceeding our bandwidth limit and basically getting cut off for 24 hrs. Our speed drops to almost zero, and sometimes doesn't work at all.

These are our remaining players

Claimed Blue
Meeple
Ludwig
Moocow

Not very suspicious at the moment
Foolishness
Citizen
AcrossFiveJulys

Mildly Suspicious
Chezinu
Flamewheel
Redtooth

People can slot me in wherever they think I belong. Personally I find moocow to be more suspicious then ludwig, but I think it possible that both are legit dt's. Very likely one is naive if that's the case. It's still premature to start offing the blues though.

Despite the fact we have 2 mafia down, losing 3 greens today seriously hurts us. Day 5 is lynch or lose at this point, assuming no medic saves or vets.

Personally I find redtooth the most suspicious of those three, Chez second, Flamewheel third.

Note the odd organization, then read the translation: don't touch blues (hi Moocow!); suspect everyone, even confirmed townies; and lynch... Chez, Flamewheel or RedTooth. Yet in a PM he sent me after this forum post he still advocated lynching... A5J.

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Your probably right, I'm just having a difficult time shaking the thought that he's mafia.

Also, I've been kind of assuming that we have either an insane or a naive dt. Because otherwise town would be a bit overpowered at this point. I do think it's valuble to determine the sanity, but given that we're running out of time, I doubt we'll be able to do much with our dt('s) anyways.

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On A5J - do you really think his PM with L is staged? And their thread conversations? I've never seen a mafia team put that much effort into a risky strategy like that.

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Honestly, if I could take anyone out with a night vig shot it would be AFJ. I'm still moderately skeptical of his posting, as well as the whole roleblocker thing. It also helps us determine alignment of the dt's.

Taking out moocow still seems a bit premature, but I'm alright with it if you go for it. I imagine we'll need to eliminate him as some point anyways.

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Original Message:
You're right, he seems very sketchy. I have a night vigilante I am talking to. I will ask them to take MooCow out tonight.

Thanks!

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Original Message:
I'm a townie.

I don't particularly trust moocow. I DO trust both ludwig and meeple.

Don't tell moocow anything more than he needs to know.

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Original Message:
Please let me know what you think of MooCow.

An honest list of suspects looks like this:

Confirmed townies:

Myself.
Foolishness.
Meeple.
A5J.

Browns:

Chez.
Flamewheel.

Others:

Radfield
MooCow
RedTooth
Ludwig-

Radfield wants RedTooth dead. Ludwig- seems Ok. Leaving... Radfield and MooCow.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 16 2010 00:40 GMT

#672

Look, Radfield is red. If meeple and Foolish trust him, so much the worse.

I am going to stop, so I don't "dominate the debate" and other people can slowly figure this out too. Or not. Either way I did my part.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 16 2010 03:27 GMT

#705

Excellent job - makes today's lynching easy.

BTW: there is no vigilante, the MooCow "hit" was a bluff. Some of you already knew this.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

June 16 2010 04:21 GMT

#711

The naive trait makes them useless in my book. In fact, they DTs are more useful for the mafia to control the flow of the game for days on end - look at the enormities Caller was able to claim a few games ago and still have people convinced he was telling the truth.