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MooCow
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Asking as a noob/first timer of the game. | ||
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E: Never played the game either, first time trying. | ||
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What are you basing that on? | ||
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Looking at Zeks suspicions and browsing through the profiles, 3 ppl kinda fits 29_deconduo ( water and an Irish poem that might mean something?!) 7_onihunter ( 5 [five attempts] years swimming yea? i'm sure he knows how to float in a town fountain 4_crate ( I think he's the only one that mentions anything about a car in his profile ) | ||
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On June 03 2010 12:01 DarthThienAn wrote: Looking quickly threw for the thrown knife clue, found these things: + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/14_zeks.jpg (Shikamaru = Naruto character, ninja = throws knives, etc.) http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/18_TyranoS_NiveK.jpg http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/1_TheGilaboy.jpg Whoa great find imo. The Naruto and knives thing, they do indeed throw knives around a lot on that anime. Can we defend ourselves from accusations? On the disturbed thing, after reading through the paragraph the word disturbed just seemed like a very common word to be used there, but fair play even after reading through that i'd be suspicious of me! | ||
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Also on zeks it says "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity" it's a bit of stretch but maybe the victim was a bit lucky to avoid death then the mafia found a perfect opportunity? | ||
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During the voting can the public vote to kill the mayor? | ||
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MooCow
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If the DT's find anything can it be told to the public or is it private information? Looking at everything so far Zeks seems like a potential mafia and there's too little info for Yellowink. | ||
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Was going to say the same thing also at most people have only 1-3 things linking them to the day 1 clues and some of them are a bit of a stretch. So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? | ||
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MooCow
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I believe the point of the game is to persuade and con people into believing whatever you say and influence it in your favor from what I see so far. | ||
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MooCow
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It'd be great if you added more inputs Crate it was easy to understand and read. We still have time before we all vote for the mayor right? With 30 people here there's still a bunch of people still to post so would we be looking those people as potential first day lynch? | ||
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MooCow
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On June 04 2010 02:04 DCLXVI wrote: If two (or more) DTs rolecheck the same person and then pm him/her. That person can then pm each DT letting them know about the other DT. Yes, I would like to hear the plans of all of the candidates, and all of the "clues" pointing to them. Just to clarify, there are separate votes for Mayor/pardoner right? Or is it most votes - mayor, 2nd place - pardoner? From the OP it seems like whoever comes in 2nd place will be the pardoner. So far DarthThienAn has 2 votes (himself and LunarDestiny) and he didn't really explain his plans much other than being dedicated to the game and he already got a vote. Though the vote seemed a bit sympathetic because Lunar said he voted because he got screwed bad last game but is also knowledgeable. | ||
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MooCow
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Wouldn't it be so sick if all the current candidates Zeks, Yellowink and Darth were all mafia and just tricking us, since they all know who the mafia members are. Since we are doing voting what if the public were to chose someone to be a mayor ( basing it from reading his posts and seeing if he is pro town ). Of course the person would have to agree but it would kind of be like a surprise to the crowd. MTF looks like a town person to me, i might be completely wrong though. What do you guys think? | ||
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MooCow
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If we do get you both as either Mayor/pardoner we should hopefully be correct or we'd be screwed for a long time if you both are mafia. | ||
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The 6 mafia knows who each other are and can communicate with each other vs the 24 other people with a few inactive also in it so that number is reduced even more, and we for the first few days have no idea who is who. Hopefully we get a good mayor candidate! | ||
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MooCow
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Yellowink - reason i'm a bit suspicious is from all the previous stuff etc. People are willing to vote for him now because he is constantly in the spot light but if he were a red and he's mayor we can't role check him anyway so he'd be safe. I hope people are ready to lynch if needed >.> Darth - experienced player from what I understand so he could be good at persuading people and getting votes. If MTF were a candidate i'd vote for him willingly though, he just seems good. | ||
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What i'm thinking is either YI or Darth has to be a mafia right? What are the odds that 6 fairly organized people couldn't work someone into the mayor/pardoner spot. I still have to vote but a lot of it seems to be going towards YI at the moment, gonna vote a bit later when more stuff comes in. | ||
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Think he's less likely to be mafia but I still think either or is mafia >.>. It just seems difficult for me to believe that 6 organized people can't somehow get a few votes and get a mafia into office. | ||
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Unless it's the mafia killing you, I hope we don't lynch the active people so far in this thread. I'm in favor of the lynching the inactive and working our way through, it would make the game more fun instead of getting rid of the active participants right away. | ||
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There's still 12 people that needs to vote but Darth is ahead 10 - 6 YI. | ||
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On June 05 2010 09:08 DarthThienAn wrote: Think so. And as of flamewheel's most recent post, there are only 3 people missing... What are you talking about? ? There's 30 people in this game according to the OP. Election Votes Votes for YellowInk (6) YellowInk LunarDestiny DCLXVI Zyrre Thegilaboy bumatlarge Votes for DarthThienAn (10) DarthThienAn littlechava TyranoS_NiveK deconduo AcrossFiveJulys barth crate onihunter Hugoboss21 ElyAs Votes for BrownBear (1) BrownBear Votes for jiabung (1) jiabung 10+6+1+1 = 18 So there's still 12 people to vote? Or am i going crazy?! | ||
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 Didn't see his latest post... Sorry!! Disregard that post at the top! -_-;; | ||
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I voted for you because you seem less like a mafia to me but i'm still very wary of both you and YI. It just seems kinda hard for 6 organized people to not get a mafia into one of the spots. | ||
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The first posts that kind of "shocked" me were LaXerCannon and 3 Lions, just because they haven't been very active and they start the night phase by instantly trying to link people to clues. I know 3L gave a reason but meh seems a bit suspicious to me. | ||
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As I said before I just think it's a bit difficult for 6 organized people to not get someone into the mayor/pardoner role. | ||
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How many people can Mafia kill in one night? | ||
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As I said before you are trying to tell me that 6 organized people couldn't get someone into a mayor/pardoner role vs 24 disorganized paranoid and inactive group of people? A bit difficult to believe but it is possible. I'm not saying I don't trust them to do their proper job as mayor/pardoner, even if they either or was a mafia he can't just go around lynching anyone without any repercussion from the town. I trust them for the time being but i'm just saying if things look a bit weird we should be willing and ready to lynch them if needed. | ||
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Well the Day 2 clues on the killing of ElyAs follows that of ninjas and maybe DT's? Stealthy, masked and bloody knife. | ||
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TheGilaboy http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/1_TheGilaboy.jpg zeks http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/14_zeks.jpg TyranoS_NiveK http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/18_TyranoS_NiveK.jpg | ||
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But like LaXercannon I always though they looked like DT pictures | ||
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![[image loading]](http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/screenshots/pstarcraft/14738210.jpg) Very sexy picture! But taking stuff into consideration the pics in the profiles kind of looked like they are masked anyway and they all use knives/blades, stealthy and quick. Even if we were to consider it to be zealots maybe they have let speed upgrades?! | ||
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Lots of MTF clues+ Show Spoiler + [/B]B]On June 06 2010 15:57 MTF wrote: Alright, let's get started on the fun stuff! Judging from the consistency between the two Day posts, I'm going to say that we have the misfortune of having somewhat random clue placement. This is to say, characters are not strictly going to be tied to clues (which would make it much easier), but rather that any given passage could return valid information on any of the mafia members. This makes it harder to build up a collection of profiles, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to try.  Keep in mind that I'm only listing the subtle connections here, and not the more "shout-in-your-face" types. (eg, YellowInk) Suspects Based Off Clues: BumAtLarge: + Show Spoiler + Relevant Clues: + Show Spoiler + Day 1: Incognito the Pardoner, through his tremendous intuition, had sensed that something was to go down last night. Day 2: He walked up to jiabung's body still hung, and began to inspect jiabung, perhaps looking for clues. ... He was at his desk in his library, looking at the pictures of the recently deceased town leaders through his magnifying glass. After carefully analyzing the pictures, he realized he was no step closer to solving this crime. Connection to BumAtLarge: + Show Spoiler + BumAtLarge has a picture of Professor Layton (and Luke) in his profile. Professor Layton is a Sherlock Holmes-esque character who is said to have great intuition, and solves crimes/mysteries throughout the world. Verdict: + Show Spoiler + Not feeling strong enough to lynch off of, but definitely keep in mind. Hugoboss21: + Show Spoiler + Relevant Clues: + Show Spoiler + Day 2: A masked figure followed him, and stealthily kept to the shadows, not letting ElyAs out of his sight. ElyAs moved quickly, breaking into a quick run, hoping to make it back home before he was overtaken. However, he was not to make it. As ElyAs passed by the town courthouse, he noticed that he had already been beaten--the masked figure was sitting on the steps. ElyAs gasped, but in an instant his life had been snuffed out, and the killer walked away with a bloodied knife. Connection to Hugoboss21: + Show Spoiler + "Loves playing medic & spy at TF2". The masked man, the keeping to the shadows, and the instant killing with a knife all point to the spy from TF2. Verdict: + Show Spoiler + Seeing as this ignored the masked figure beating Elyas to the steps and is only based on one Day post, the evidence is insufficient for me to feel any conviction. crate: + Show Spoiler + Relevant Clues: + Show Spoiler + Day 1: Crime he thought, so unlikely in his town. ... Whilst in his office finishing his work, he deflected no less than five assassination attempts, ranging from sniffing poison in his coffee cup to leaping out of the way from a thrown knife while walking down the hallway....Incognito recognized the danger and started backing away quickly, but in one freak moment, the printer exploded and showered Incognito with burning hot ink, hitting him in the face. As Incognito ran outward toward the street to escape, he was struck by a speeding car. Connection to crate: + Show Spoiler + crate's profile quote is from Richard Feynman. It relates to the percieved improbability of things. It seems very improbable that Incognito would survive all of these attempts on his life, just to get sprayed in the face with hot ink and then run into a car. Verdict: + Show Spoiler + I like crate's posting. A lot. And the clue is somewhat convuluted. So, I'm far from sold. MooCow & Tyranos_Nivek: + Show Spoiler + Relevant Clues: + Show Spoiler + Day 1: Whilst in his office finishing his work, he deflected no less than five assassination attempts, ranging from sniffing poison in his coffee cup to leaping out of the way from a thrown knife while walking down the hallway. Day 2: ElyAs moved quickly, breaking into a quick run, hoping to make it back home before he was overtaken. However, he was not to make it. As ElyAs passed by the town courthouse, he noticed that he had already been beaten--the masked figure was sitting on the steps. ... After climbing into the bed, he turned off his light and turned to see his drapes flutter in the wind. He moved to them and saw his window open, shaking his head and not remembering opening the window, he moved to close it...A sickening crack was heard, and the lifeless eyes of barth gazed up at the sky. Connection to MooCow & Tyranos_Nivek: + Show Spoiler + Damn, that's a lot of stuff to be possibly connected to. In any case, both of their public profiles (which I was saddened to learn neither of you wrote) mention that they used to be a CIA agents (poisoning coffee), throws tennis rackets with extreme accuracy (knife), defy the laws of physics (easily beating Barth to the courthouse), and scales walls (Barth wouldn't have died if thrown from the first floor). Verdict: + Show Spoiler + There's simply too many opportunities for red herrings to pop up, given the amount of information available. Plus, I sincerely doubt that Flamewheel/BC would be irresponsible enough to make cluesets using this information when it is the exact same between two people. They'd both need to be Mafia for this to make any sense. Least convincing clue connection to me, overall. General Notes: (This is more or less just a "pay attention to the way things are worded" section to help newer people looking for clues. It will also show some thoughts I have that others might be able to connect to specific people.) Day 1: + Show Spoiler + as per usual for a man of his stature. Gazing down at his desk, Not going to be related to anybody short. Making his way down to the city center, he gazed at the buildings as he passed, the shopping mall that had just been built, the school he went to when he was a kid, just farther down the way a series of small stores and restaurants...he stopped by the fountain in front of the office. It was there he noticed he was being followed. Turning, he saw a figure rush forward. The killer may have started following him from one of the above mentioned places. The most logical point would be at the school, which is the last place it says BloodyC0bbler actually passes before heading back. Also, did he notice the person following him specifically because of the fountain? Day 2: + Show Spoiler + Townspeople disappeared back to their homes, to wait out the night armed with shotguns behind hastily constructed barricades. Hastily constructed barricades could be referencing something in particular. However, after a few minutes he became aware of another presence, and nervously backed down from the steps, and started on his way home. What made him aware of that presence? ElyAs moved quickly, breaking into a quick run, hoping to make it back home before he was overtaken. However, he was not to make it. As ElyAs passed by the town courthouse, he noticed that he had already been beaten--the masked figure was sitting on the steps. Somehow the killer made it far enough ahead of Elyas to be sitting on the steps, waiting for him. This is despite Elyas running and the masked figure only following him before. Also, note the wording - he was "beaten" to the steps. Could indicate someone overwhelmingly winning. ElyAs gasped, but in an instant his life had been snuffed out, and the killer walked away with a bloodied knife. It only takes an instant between Elyas noticing the figure and his being killed. This could be simply detailed writing or may be a clue. The same thing applies to the word "snuffed", which could allude to candles. As he reached out to grab the handle, he felt a weight push against him, and he went tumbling out the window. Note that this assailant, unlike any of the others before, was not seen in any way. It is simply "a weight", which when coupled with the window being opened at a sufficient height to kill Barth, could indicate this killer being some kind of "force" or supernatural being, rather than a person. A sickening crack was heard, and the lifeless eyes of barth gazed up at the sky. I already mentioned it above, but feel I should reiterate: The window was high up enough that Barth died upon impact. This means that whoever killed him must have had a way to access the window. This may or may not be relevant, given that there are ways to get around heights, but as none were mentioned I feel it is important to make note of this. Finally, in terms of clues, I've noticed a lot of people talking about the first killing on Day 2 in relation to DT's. I feel I should point this out: A masked figure followed him, and stealthily kept to the shadows, not letting ElyAs out of his sight...As ElyAs passed by the town courthouse, he noticed that he had already been beaten--the masked figure was sitting on the steps. Elyas can see his killer. Not a very convincing DT, if you ask me. Clues get stronger with time, allowing the build-up of connections. We aren't likely to catch anybody Day 1-2 on them, but starting on Day 3 and continuing we will have much greater chances of it. Yea it was really unfortunate that both Tyranos and I have the same wording in our profiles. If I knew that would of happened I would of gotten something else -_-, but i signed up first with it! I realise everyone is talking about Gilaboy, which is fair enough imo but let's not forget about zeks. His profile pic is of a ninja, although he isn't masked. Zeks also ran for mayor/pardoner role but no one voted for him, in the end he voted for YI. | ||
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On June 07 2010 04:16 Zyrre wrote: Interesting. This does seem like a possibility. Can't really "profile" Tyranos on his posting since there are so few posts. MooCow consistently ask questions about the game and refers to the mafia as "them" or "how could they not get a candidate in" etc. Might be an attempt to distance himself from mafia, or he is just new and didn't research mafia games a lot. Yea i'm a new player to the mafia game. This game was meant to attract more newer players though I believe. I think some of my questions were a bit hard to find in the other mafia games because there are so many different mafia modes. In one of the mafia threads I think it was some kind of Russian war as soon as the game started 2 guys ( Chizenu(sp) and Mandongo(sp)) started killing each other and everyone seemed confused lol. Very weird comments from Deuceglaider. Maybe he's just putting his name as a placer but why would he put his own name for the placer though -_- | ||
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On June 07 2010 06:58 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Hm, well I thought I contributed by pointing out GilaBoy's obvious fail with the "Tiny the Stone Giant" thing, something which nobody had pointed out yet (though I fail to believe I'm the only one in this game who's played Dota). Is this not considered contributing?  Oh, and I'm not sure I agree that inactivity is an indication of Mafianess. We've already lynched an inactive non-Mafia. If we just lynch based on activity, the obvious Mafia counter-play is to just post a lot of blah blah blah. Well to be fair to about our first lynch, I don't think he posted at all? It was only the day 1 also. The reasoning behind the inactivity lynching is because we want the game to be more lively etc but it helps us determine who is mafia and who isn't by their posting style. All townies posting wouldn't need to be scared because they aren't mafia and hopefully with their posting patterns it shows but if mafias were to constantly post we are hoping to see some slip ups from the mafias. | ||
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Because as it is right now the lynch voting seems to be going for Deuce ( seems very inactive and doesn't care about the game ) or Gilaboy ( basing it mainly on clues ). I think if you would of kept that voting pattern to yourself a little longer and realized they all kept voting near the same time it would of been so solid! But now that you called them out on it this early even if they aren't all mafia I think they are going to vote at different times just to get less suspicion on them. Great analysis too crate. In my earlier posts I did say I was suspicious of both YI and Darth but in later posts I say I do trust them for the time being but I still think we should be wary of their posts because it's a possibility that either or is a mafia. On the zeks thing I thought I was clearish  . I was suspicious of zeks because he was one of the first people to run for mayor, which as you guys said mafia tends to do and tries to get a bandwagon, but no one voted for him. Zeks also has a ninja character in his profile that uses knives, they are stealthy and quick but this is only basing it on his clues. | ||
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AFJ+ Show Spoiler + On June 08 2010 00:11 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Guys, I couldn't resist doing an analysis on MooCow. I just looked through his post history and I'm getting a very strong read that he's mafia. He's playing a "newbie townie" role. And way overplaying it. Check out how many of his posts are asking ridiculous questions that he could have easily deduced from the OP or figured out himself: On June 03 2010 05:17 MooCow wrote: How does an excel sheet help ? Asking as a noob/first timer of the game. On June 03 2010 12:57 MooCow wrote: Can a mafia member be voted in as mayor? During the voting can the public vote to kill the mayor? On June 03 2010 13:06 MooCow wrote: I see, this is my first time playing, so it would be really important to get a DT or someone to check the potential mayor candidates before we vote them in right? If the DT's find anything can it be told to the public or is it private information? Looking at everything so far Zeks seems like a potential mafia and there's too little info for Yellowink. On June 03 2010 13:29 MooCow wrote: So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? In like every other post he mentions or leverages the fact that he's new at the game. e.g, in addition to above posts, On June 03 2010 09:53 MooCow wrote: Probably more interesting to play with people that are participating in the game rather than kill the people that are participating. E: Never played the game either, first time trying. On June 03 2010 13:58 MooCow wrote: Damn I agree with Oni again, Yellowink seems to be really pushing hard for the mayor position which is fair and understandable but for me it seems a bit suspicious. I believe the point of the game is to persuade and con people into believing whatever you say and influence it in your favor from what I see so far. On June 03 2010 23:01 MooCow wrote: Thanks to everyone posting additional information about the game for the newer people. It'd be great if you added more inputs Crate it was easy to understand and read. We still have time before we all vote for the mayor right? With 30 people here there's still a bunch of people still to post so would we be looking those people as potential first day lynch? He also often overcompensates and makes sure that he mentions that he could be mafia so people wouldn't think he's leaving that out: On June 03 2010 12:11 MooCow wrote: Whoa great find imo. The Naruto and knives thing, they do indeed throw knives around a lot on that anime. Can we defend ourselves from accusations? On the disturbed thing, after reading through the paragraph the word disturbed just seemed like a very common word to be used there, but fair play even after reading through that i'd be suspicious of me! Seriously that's just the tip of the iceberg, almost all of his posts are overcompensating or being a "newb townie". He appeared to get very worried about the yellowink/darth election and stated FOUR times that it seems possible for mafia to be able to organize and get one of their six elected. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Please other people look through his post history and tell me if you get the same vibe. Yes i'm a noob to the game of mafia. Some of the stuff I asked could of been figured out from reading the OP and some couldn't, which is my bad for not going through the OP carefully. I surely don't overcompensate imo. I just post whatever I think but as crate said earlier I think I don't do much convincing in my posts so they are just general thoughts of the progress of the game. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Nope, that's not true. Even if you read crate analysis of me it says I still continue to be wary of both YI and Darth. Even in one of my more recent posts I say why I am and what not so I don't see how you managed to get that. | ||
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AFJ + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2010 00:36 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: On June 08 2010 00:26 MooCow wrote: Yes i'm a noob to the game of mafia. Some of the stuff I asked could of been figured out from reading the OP and some couldn't, which is my bad for not going through the OP carefully. Like I said it's as if you were going out of your way to ask questions to make yourself look newbie. That's what looks suspicious. I surely don't overcompensate imo. I just post whatever I think but as crate said earlier I think I don't do much convincing in my posts so they are just general thoughts of the progress of the game. I'm sure you surely don't overcompensate in your opinion too. You better start doing some convincing rather than posting contentless garbage like the way you are defending yourself right now if you don't want to look suspicious. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Nope, that's not true. Even if you read crate analysis of me it says I still continue to be wary of both YI and Darth. Even in one of my more recent posts I say why I am and what not so I don't see how you managed to get that. fine, your complaining was significantly reduced but not completely gone. This isn't what made me think you are mafia anyway. Wow you're an aggressive poster in general. I'm posting content less garbage because i'm trying to defend myself. The only accusation from you in your post is that i'm acting too much like a newbie town role and overplaying that role and the suspicions of YI and Darth which in your own words you were wrong. I believe I answered all of your accusations of me for the most part in my first post. He also often overcompensates and makes sure that he mentions that he could be mafia so people wouldn't think he's leaving that out I'm sure that's only one post where I do that it was me asking if we should defend ourselves from accusations. For the whole of the game i've been pro town and never mention I could be mafia. And the post you were referring to was a situation like this right now. | ||
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Gilaboy + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2010 02:25 Thegilaboy wrote: Go go gadget analysis! Random number generator created these individual's numbers for analysis. 8. MooCow Plays the newbie card a lot, this much is true. He may actually be a legit newbie, but some of his questions are easily answered in the OP. Was hesitant about both our elected candidates, and repeatedly mentioned that mafia will almost certainly get someone in office. Does he still believe this, and if so who does he think is more likely to be scum between the two? You've warned us all to be weary of them, just wondering what your thoughts were on the matter still. Started putting clues together at the start of Day 2. Does a good job here in both making connections to various profiles, while at the same time acknowledging that we shouldn't jump to conclusions so soon. Also understands our need to get active posters in order to get reads off of that. I'm interested in his earlier looks at zeks and wondering if you've thought anymore about that at all? Sure he plays the newbie card, but hey this is a newbie game for the most part. My gut reaction right now is that he is pro-town. I'd like to hear more of his thoughts on suspecting our elects, and if he has anymore thoughts on zeks. 26. pyr0ma5ta In the election he opted not to vote for YI or zeks as they had clues pointing to them. He even went so far as to say: On June 04 2010 08:02 pyr0ma5ta wrote: Yellowink, not only will not vote for you as mayor at this point, at this point I am leaning towards lynching you first. Still feel this way pyr0? Later on accused me of making a stretch accusation with the whole Tiny the Giant thing, but considering the fact that I've never played nor looked into Dota ever, I had no idea of the character's existence. That being said, he promptly decided he would vote for me. So it goes though, everyone is certainly free to vote as they see fit. Began to argue against voting for Deuce, claiming that they are reasons some people stay off the radar. What interests me most though are he most recent posts, saying that we shouldn't be trusting our elects necessarily. I ask the same thing of you that I asked of MooCow, do you have any more specific thoughts on the matter. Besides just saying we should suspect them, at this point do you have anymore solid thoughts on the matter, or perhaps an individual you would like to focus on for analysis? Things like that could be very helpful for everyone, and I'd just like to know your opinion on the matter. 23. CompX Here is a super inactive poster, who started our game with the bold claim that: On June 03 2010 11:09 CompX wrote: guys, I think ElyAs can be a mafia His accusation was based on flamewheel dying from lightning, something that is a recurring theme is his games. Then suddenly poof, he's gone. Returns 600 some posts later to reiterate the fact that MooCow and Tyranos both have the same profile and could be linked to barth's death by their ability to defy the laws of physics. And he returns to Elyas by taking a look at his death. Makes the call of attributing the death to a silent killer, and primary suspects are then myself and zeks in his eyes. He knows a lot about the character in zeks' profile, and he seems to be a ninja of sorts. At this point in time I really would like to see CompX post more. I know he said he'll be inactive because of school, but a 600 post gap between he's thoughts is a bit much. I'm inclined not to trust him because of his very early call of accusing Elyas of being mafia, something that didn't hold any merit at all. That's what I've got for now. Probably should take care of a few RL responsibilities right now Yea I did have more thoughts on zeks and I have continually posts my thoughts and suspicious on that person. My later thoughts on Zeks. On the thought of the mayor/pardoner the only reason I am suspicious of Darth is when we first started the game I remember LunarDestiny voting for Darth right away and a bandwagon was sort of created for him but he seems town for the time being. I'm a bit more suspicious of YI as everyone was at the start but I still am. i thought this post was a bit weird in a sense that it seems YI is a bit strong in the sense that maybe he got Darth to lynch jiabung instead of Tyranos. YI post. We don't get to see the pm's between them but it's just a thought. But as I said before I trust them for the time being. Giving my thoughts on pyr0ma5ta randomed him. First 3 posts in the thread he admits to being a newbie to the game and asks not to be lynch for voting too early. He is suspicious of YI but votes for Darth given the choices but I also think this was bandwagon because Darth had so many votes. He again remains wary of YI as Darth calls him out for making a huge statement of wanting to lynch YI. He's one of the people that doesn't agree with lynching the inactive and wants to lynch a potential mafia He also, like me, doesn't want people to completely trust YI and Darth - post My thoughts on him he might be trying to protect Deuce but he later concedes into lynching Deuce. I also don't think Deuce is mafia, probably just an inactive townie. I think he's a townie that's just a bit paranoid about YI and Darth for probably the same reasons as me. | ||
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AND pyr0ma5ta gets banned after my posts on him -_-; | ||
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AFJ + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2010 04:07 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: On June 08 2010 03:34 MooCow wrote: Voting for Deuce due to his inactivity and he just seems like he doesn't want to be in this game. AND pyr0ma5ta gets banned after my posts on him -_-; Shit I hope pyr0ma5ta can still post in the mafia forum T_T And voting for Deuce because he doesn't want to be in the game is not a good reason. That would imply that he's probably not mafia so we DONT want to lynch him. I'm trying to be civil here rather than yelling at you for saying retarded mafia-like things since your analysis of pyr0 was decent, I hope you appreciate it. I am going to firmly state that I think we should figure out a more juicy target for today's lynching than deuce. If we can't come to somewhat of an agreement, then I am fine with deuce. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll flip red, meaning he's an absolutely retarded mafia and his team doesn't have control over him. But I find that event rather unlikely. I suggest someone analyzes LunarDestiny's post history. He's had bandwagony voting behavior, namely recently for deuce, and gives a very weak reason for suspecting him as shown in my short exchange with him: AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Then why are you so adamant about lynching deuce? He fits into that same category. Here are a few of your posts trying to get everyone to vote for deuce: On June 07 2010 22:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: In the K-pop thread, he has two posts on June 5th and one on June 7th. So basically just one post on teamliquid outside the mafia since the game has really started. I'd hardly call that someone active on TL outside mafia. I really think he's a terrible target at this point. At the moment I'm suspicious of MooCow (less now) and people going after Deuce (8 people voted for him, there could easily be a few mafia mixed in there) because in my eyes he's such an obviously terrible target. And if he flipped green everyone on that list has the excuse that they are promoting active posting and thats why they voted for him. Another reason i'm voting for Deuce is that if he was a mafia he would be doing enough to get pass the modkill and remain in the game. I agreed with you in one of your earlier posts that I don't really think that Deuce is a mafia but just someone that's bored of the game but on the chance that he is mafia, good for us but if he isn't then I don't see how we would lose much because he doesn't do anything anyway. I will say I have no problem changing my vote from Deuce to anyone else if there is strong evidence that the new suspect is indeed mafia. But let's look at the possible candidates we have so far other than Deuce. We have *MooCow (1 Vote - AFJ) *TheGilaBoy ( 3 Votes - LaXerCannon, Compx and pyromaster(banned for 2 days) ) I won't vote for myself and at the start of day 2 I did some analysis on Gilaboy and even put him up as a possible mafia based on his clues/profile. I just don't think theres enough concrete stuff to vote Gilaboy and the people that did vote for him were made suspect by Lunar when he viewed their posting habit. | ||
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On June 07 2010 04:54 Deucegladlier wrote: You know, I think there are mafia members in this game. And that post obviously drew a lot of attention and he voted for himself. Everyone's been saying that Deuce is most likely townie and I agree, I think most people think that Deuce is a townie but imo i'm voting to lynch him because he's inactive, has a chance to be mafia and posting bare minimum to not get mod killed and we just don't have any other very solid candidates to lynch. If we can find a solid target to lynch and leave him alone I wouldn't have any problems switching and in my previous posts and named all the candidates and my thoughts that has been voted to be lynched ( MooCow and TheGilaBoy). | ||
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AFJ + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2010 06:25 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Please, everyone who voted for deuce just because everyone else was and they didn't have a better person to vote for, consider changing your vote to MooCow. Notice that since I accused him he has been extremely neutral and going out of his way not to stir any trouble, and even did an "analysis" post. The vote has not been decided yet, there is plenty of time to switch. What the hell does lynching deuce give us? At best, a red. But we all know that's a fat chance. So most likely he's going to flip green. What information can we glean from that? Not a godamn thing, since everyone voting for him has the excuse that they are trying to take out inactives. Let that fucker rot as dead weight for another day -- if he's town, letting him live isn't hurting us. If we vote MooCow and he flips town, at least there will be some interesting information to analyze afterwards (and I will look suspicious as hell, but I'm willing to take that risk). So this is pretty weird imo... After AFJ posts this saying i'm less suspicious and my "analysis" was decent enough for him to not yell at me he does this. You first post about me on page 42 and we currently on page 43. Page 42 - I defend myself Page 43 - I say why i'm suspicious of Zeks and I also say i'm still suspicious of YI but getting less suspicious of Darth. I give my thoughts on pyro and vote for Deuce. I also say i'm suspicious of people with low activity and the people that voted for Gilaboy. Page 45 - I explain clearly why i'm voting for Deuce and not weak targets. The stuff above answers the spoilered posts. Now what's confusing is the time at which you came back to call me out and the people that are voting for me, other than you are DCLXVI and Misder. Both are low posters and posted close to each other. Misder also posts 2 minute right after you saying almost the same thing. You accused LunarDestiny of doing the bandwagon thing and it seems like you're trying to create one right now. But the most confusing thing is how much you're going after me. If i'm not mafia as you said yourself you'd would look suspicious but maybe you have a plan to come out of it. I'm starting to think you're mafia by trying to create bandwagons and as soon as you posted that the inactive people come in right after. | ||
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On June 08 2010 08:09 BrownBear wrote: I like AFJ's logic for moocow, so I will change my vote to him. I do not think it will really change much at this point though, unless enough people sign on again and read his logic. It would be interesting to have everyone who leaves their vote on Deuce explain why they left their vote on Deuce. If nothing else, it would be good at rooting out the guys who log on once to vote and post and are then gone for the rest of the day. Any thoughts on my rebuttal ? Just curious btw.. I believe I answered everything about what AFJ accused me of and even gave an argument against him. I have no problem with you guys voting for me, fair enough but i'm just curious other than you just following AFJ. | ||
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At least there were some people smart enough to not jump on the band wagon! This has nothing to do with the game but Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea~~!! | ||
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