EPTTown played pretty mediocre, mafia played worse. The better side won. I shouldn't be too surprised given that this was a new player game, I guess.
I think I still like being on the town side better. But it was interesting to be on the other side and I learned a good bit I hope.
My plan this game was to play like I was town but make two changes: First, I would strategically disappear at certain times (I can pull this off because I don't really post on Teamliquid elsewhere). My tiredness and such was legit, but there were a lot of little posts that I didn't make because I wasn't town.
Second, I left a lot of stuff out or uncommented on.
I think it did okay. I had tells, but the town wasn't going to pick up on them the way it was playing. I think next game I'm not going to play the way I did this game or last game.
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I never officially took on the duty but I felt like I was in charge of all the hits except for the ones aimed at MTF (which, if you go read our forum, I was skeptical about). Night 1 my plan was to just snipe people who didn't look like they would be protected and cut down voting power. Night 2, I hit AFJ because he was thinking properly and (most importantly) getting the town to listen, and I had started to think he might have a power role to boot. Pyro was because he was also looking pretty smart and I was really hoping that the town wouldn't listen to him. That he was banned was the icing on the cake because it meant that no medic was ever going to protect him
Had I stuck with my gut and not hit MTF (I thought from Day 1 he was Vet, and it turns out I was right) I'd have targeted Zyrre and then deconduo on nights 1/2. That would have been a much better result.
Night 3 didn't matter when half of us were already outed.
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I thought Darth didn't do a particularly good job. He really flubbed up Day 2 voting imo by switching to MooCow; I was pretty close to outright accusing him in my posting afterward but I didn't want the town to actually listen. His attack on LunarDestiny was terrible and I'd have never for a second bought that he was "just trying to keep LD alive." (What really got me is that there were legit arguments for being against LD, but instead Darth picks ones that actually in my opinion reflect on him as much as on LD). However, had the rest of our team played as well as Darth, we'd have roflstomped the town (well, that and if we don't hit MTF).
I'm not really going to judge my own play. My plan kind of tripped me up because the rest of my team was terrible and I wasn't anticipating that happening.
Here's how bad our team was:
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Did you post in the thread? You need to do both.
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I voted in Day 3 so I'm pretty sure I'm not getting modkilled.
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You around? I saw littlechava saying you're gonna get modkilled, so I'd really appreciate it if you would make sure you've both posted in the main thread (have you done that?) and voted since the beginning of Day 3....
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I voted in Day 3 so I'm pretty sure I'm not getting modkilled.
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You around? I saw littlechava saying you're gonna get modkilled, so I'd really appreciate it if you would make sure you've both posted in the main thread (have you done that?) and voted since the beginning of Day 3....
PM from me to 3 Lions about 40 minutes before he gets modkilled. x.x
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There are a couple big things I think the town should have been doing. Firstly, waiting so long to vote on every vote is generally not so great because it stifles discussion (or rather, it doesn't generate discussion like votes do). Of course, the counterpart to that is that you need the town to actually be smart enough to read arguments and such instead of just voting with the bandwagon.
Along with that is the town calling for activity. Sure, go ahead, post that it's good--that's true. But you're not going to get activity by just calling for it in the thread. You have to do stuff to make it happen, which is accusations or FoS's or voting or directly asking questions of specific people. The amount of time the town spent doing nothing was terrible.
Apparently the town DTs played well, so credit to them, but the most vocal posters were pretty much just bad. MTF had his clue-hacks on again (one of the many things I didn't mention is that the only good clue analysis I'd ever seen in TL mafia came from either Camlito or MTF) but he didn't really do anything else (granted, in this setup, he'd have gotten Darth and I long before we could have won if we tried to play on). LunarDestiny was all over the place, giving questionable advice, and generally would have been causing more confusion than anyone on our side except no one listened to him. I was expecting a lot more from BrownBear since he'd actually played before, but he says nothing of import on Day 1, disappears on Day 2, and then follows the bandwagon for the rest of the game.
YellowInk was definitely bad on Day 1 (though he did look town because no one on our side would have had the balls to jump into the spotlight so obviously except maybe Darth), but he improved a lot afterward. He made some definitely questionable moves (his "fishing" with the double lynch suggestion on Day 2 especially -> I was pretty sure as mafia that we 100% did not want a double lynch on Day 3, and in retrospect I was right; looking for mafia by jumping on the people who make a pro-town move is generally not a good plan, but nothing came of it anyway) but I think that's just inexperience.
Of course on our side there was 3 Lions who got himself modkilled, hugo who just barely didn't; and then oni and bum didn't do a good job of starting off with a pro-town impression (and bum pushed for a rolecheck on me at some point. I wasn't really paying attention to his posts much but I did notice that and did not like it -> it's definitely a good way to make the town more suspicious of me, and I think DCL caught this). So I can't criticize too much I suppose. You can go pick apart my play if you want. I don't think I'm good at Mafia on either side, but at least I think I know what I'm doing when I'm town.
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I don't really know who I'd pick for town MVP. MTF did well on clues but I already said what I think about clues. I was very impressed by Pyro's small volume of posting and had he been more active I think he'd have been good. The DTs did well with their checks certainly.
Town LVP is Deucegladlier :p
Mafia LVP is definitely 3 Lions. Darth did better than anyone else but perhaps me (I'm not going to judge overall how well I played).
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MTF: There was no fake DT. The DTs legitimately checked oni and bum, so Darth's hands were tied in both cases.
My brother dared me to take a screenshot and post it at the end (I talk about the game outside of the forum; again, addicted). Three out of five isn't too bad.
Here's the problem, MTF:
You didn't try to convince anyone of any of that. Okay, great--you got us. That means nothing unless you can convince the town that you're right. And in your position, you should have been trying to drop the hammer on that whole list.
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Also, I was right about 0 millers being a possibility :p
