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onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 00:48 GMT
#921
I'm still not convinced about MooCow. He's pretty active, and losing him would legitimately be a loss for us if he flips green. Deuce, on the other hand, is 100% useless and, whether he flips green or red, it's not BAD for us. If we kill MooCow, we're letting deuce live another day (WOOHOO!) and we lose a contributor if MooCow's green, which is more likely imo. So I'm keeping my vote on deuce.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 01:20 GMT
#927
On June 08 2010 09:55 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2010 09:48 onihunter wrote:
I'm still not convinced about MooCow. He's pretty active, and losing him would legitimately be a loss for us if he flips green. Deuce, on the other hand, is 100% useless and, whether he flips green or red, it's not BAD for us. If we kill MooCow, we're letting deuce live another day (WOOHOO!) and we lose a contributor if MooCow's green, which is more likely imo. So I'm keeping my vote on deuce.


can you elaborate on how MooCow has contributed other than echoing / agreeing / piggybacking on other people's ideas?


Ok, after you posted that, I went ahead and read all of his posts in this thread...which didn't take long at all. You're right, he hasn't really said anything substantial. My bad. I kind of assumed that he had to have said some good stuff since he posted so much but I guess I was wrong...I'm now seriously considering switching to MooCow for today's lynch.

However, he does talk a lot so if he's scum it should be readily apparent very soon (I think LD said something like this). If someone gives me one more really convincing reason to vote for MooCow that hasn't been mentioned yet, then I probably will.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 01:32 GMT
#931
On June 08 2010 10:27 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Ok omnihunter here's something that I haven't mentioned about him yet:

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On June 07 2010 05:09 MooCow wrote:
In one of the mafia threads I think it was some kind of Russian war as soon as the game started 2 guys ( Chizenu(sp) and Mandongo(sp)) started killing each other and everyone seemed confused lol.


So he follows mafia threads but is still completely ignorant to rules and still posts like a retard?


....Wtf I did not catch that. I wouldn't go so far as to say that he "follows mafia threads" and "posts like a retard," since thats only one thread and the only retard here is deuce, but that's a major hole in his story, since he's supposed to be a newbie. As I promised, I'm switching to MooCow (which probably won't change the voting results, but, hey, it might).
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 01:43 GMT
#939
LOL how ironic
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 02:20 GMT
#1006
holy fuck a vigi modkilled? u can't be serious...

and akls;djf;laksdj poor moocow fuckkk
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 02:25 GMT
#1011
On June 08 2010 11:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Sorry man, I was the last vote.

Will probably take a more passive role from now on as my decision making is crap right now.


I can't say it was exactly your fault lol...don't be so hard on yourself ^^
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 05:33 GMT
#1028
It actually didn't occur to me that I'd have to defend myself if this were to happen lol, what with the last minute decision making and all, so I didn't exactly think too hard about this result...was mostly concerned with whether or not lynching MooCow was more beneficial than the alternative.

I also think it is likely that more people would have switched had the "initiative" started earlier--people probably didn't check the thread/read it all carefully enough to warrant a switch, since I do think AFJ's analysis was solid and worth a shot. Just a thought, though.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 05:49 GMT
#1030
Ah, I realize this in retrospect. Anyway, some more math for tonight :D

16 non-mafia, non-leader players remaining, mafia have 3 KP. Still assuming 2 medics and 2 DTs:

Probability of hitting 0 of those roles: 12/16 * 11/15 * 10/14 = 39%, meaning 61% chance mafia will hit AT LEAST one medic/DT. About 10% higher than last time. Iono if this information is particularly useful or not, but I calculated it to satisfy my own curiosity. So there you go in case anyone is wondering.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 23:31 GMT
#1068
On June 09 2010 07:02 Zyrre wrote:
Analysis of onihuter.

At the start it seemed like he tried to even out the votes on all the candidates, including bear and zeks, by being overly suspicious of everybody. This would be great for mafia since their organized voting would then sway it in favour of whoever they wanted picked.
He then proceeded to talk about medics and who they should protect. Also asks the question to the town who they think medics should protect and so on, would obviously be great information for mafia.
He posted some player analysis, but all of them ended with "seems pretty neutral, could be either" or something similar. Most outstanding was DCLXVI which he thought to be mafia.

He bandwagoned early with deuce as lynching target, but switched late to MooCow.
Also his response to the vigi modkill seems a bit over the top.

This is the most suspicious posting I've looked at yet, high chance of being mafia in my eyes.


As I recall, I was mainly suspicious of YellowInk (as were lots of other people), since he campaigned so hard and so fast. As for being kind of cautious about BB and zeks, I think that's natural since so many other people were feeling similarly (many even thought zeks was mafia).

And about the medics and who they should protect, I wasn't asking for like specific names, just general principles that should be followed, largely to learn more about the game and previous trends.

The fact that I thought a lot of players were "neutral" shouldn't be surprising at this point--it was pretty early in the game, and it's hard to have a strong feeling that someone's mafia (that's properly supported of course).

Um...I was like 6th last to vote for deuce right before I switched. I can hardly call that "bandwagoning early." I also voted for deuce pretty late b/c I was out for almost the entire fire half of Day 2, as I mentioned in the thread. As for switching late to MooCow (3rd last), I had to mull over whether to change my vote. You can even see that, after zeks response to one of my posts, I was completely on the fence about the issue. I only changed my vote after AFJ gave me another reason to vote for MooCow, which, btw, was what I promised (switch if one more reason to vote for MooCow).

My reasoning for voting for MooCow instead of deuce was thus: MooCow was ESSENTIALLY as useless as deuce, since he just echoed what others said while maintaining the facade of actually contributing and giving analysis. The late initiative to vote for him would also provide more information than deuce's death ("oh, he's townie. ok then."). The biggest point from AFJ that convinced me was his pointing out that MooCow overplayed the "newbie card." I think that's enough to justify my change, but, if you don't, feel free to question me further.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 23:36 GMT
#1069
Oh, and about my response to vigi modkill being "over the top":

Most people who know me IRL can attest to the fact that I'm rather "over the top" reaction-wise about these kinds of things (i.e. something ridiculous occurring). Why's it over the top anyway? o.o;;

Sorry if it seems like I'm overreacting to Zyrre's post, but, you guys, please actually check if his facts are straight before buying his analysis.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 08 2010 23:38 GMT
#1070
One more thing that I forgot:

How could you say I was "evening out the votes?" I was pretty much in favor of voting for DTA the entire time...And since DTA was winning by a pretty big margin for most of Day 1, I don't think that qualifies as an attempt to even out the votes lol
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 09 2010 03:05 GMT
#1096
On June 09 2010 12:03 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2010 12:00 DarthThienAn wrote:
NO! IM HALF NAKED.

Wat?


One of his bodyguards is down
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 09 2010 03:40 GMT
#1111
On June 09 2010 12:37 Thegilaboy wrote:
Going back to the survival of the fit line:

1. It could imply some sort of high status, a sign of accomplishment.
a. Everyone with high SC league standings listed in profile: Hugoboss, 3 Lions (also liquibet champ),
b. Tyranos has that super long list of accomplishments, implying a very "fit" individual.
c. sputnik.theory has a list of accomplishments as well.
2. Any mention of winning/losing: zeks with the quote: winning isn't everything, it's the only thing; DCLXVI has quote about losers and winners.

This all works under the assumption that that particular line was of value. Seemed to be in my eyes, what do you guys think?


I'm pretty sure that line's important. It seems a bit...out of place, you know? The rest of the paragraph could easily go w/o it, and it's a bit random.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 09 2010 23:05 GMT
#1154
Hey guys,

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jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 09 2010 23:09 GMT
#1155
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 09 2010 23:16 GMT
#1156

jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 10 2010 00:52 GMT
#1159
it means mafia do
[image loading]
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 10 2010 02:10 GMT
#1168
I DON'T WANNA DIE

I HAVE SO MUCH TO LIVE FOR... LIKE...

you know those like little gooey things that are like adhesives on pamphlets and stuff? yeah those
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 10 2010 02:11 GMT
#1169
or on gift cards, know what I mean? eh wut wut

the awesome rolly gooey feeling when you roll them into a tiny ball

just the right amnt of stickiness, not enough to be like an eww but enough to be like a "hey this feels nice"
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 10 2010 02:30 GMT
#1174
On June 10 2010 11:19 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 11:11 onihunter wrote:
or on gift cards, know what I mean? eh wut wut

the awesome rolly gooey feeling when you roll them into a tiny ball

just the right amnt of stickiness, not enough to be like an eww but enough to be like a "hey this feels nice"

Only scum like you would have such a perverted mind. ^.~


skaters gotta skate
jaedong forever~
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