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onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
May 27 2010 21:26 GMT
#23
sign me up!
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 00:51 GMT
#137
On June 03 2010 09:00 zeks wrote:
The strategy to lynch inactives first day is fairly common from what I remember - but lets take a look at the day 1 clues first to see who we can string up.


Why is it advantageous to lynch inactives? Never really played this game before =X
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 01:20 GMT
#144
Also, is most communication (in general) through just the thread, or are PMs used a lot?
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 01:32 GMT
#146
All right, sounds good. I guess I'll just pick it up as the game goes on

glhf~
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 04:11 GMT
#196
Ok I just read everything that was posted thus far and obviously noted my suspicious status. Fair accusation, since my profile does indeed seem to be related. I'm not exactly sure what I could say to mitigate suspicion due to the nature of this game, but there are plenty of targets so I'm not especially worried =X

DarthThienAn's post is a good list of clues linked to profiles. I suppose we could just pick from that when the time comes (with of course additional people that we link).

This is my first time reading, but wow, tons of reading within like 2 hours :O. The OP was def not exaggerating, but this has been rly interesting + fun.

Clarification: we only vote for mayor tonight right? No lynches?
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 04:27 GMT
#202
On June 03 2010 13:18 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 13:06 zeks wrote:
On June 03 2010 12:56 YellowInk wrote:
I am running for mayor.

I have something that puts me a solid head above any other - and any townie that is considering running for mayor should give this serious thought before putting their name up in competition. I can be cleaned while in office. That there was a clear and obvious 'hot ink' clue puts me in a unique position to show that I am aligned with the town. Since I am sure I am town, I know the clue does not point to me and a clue check here will turn up negative. If I were mafia I could not be so confident - and continuing to draw attention to this fact would get me lynched as soon as the DT got around to checking it.

One of the worst things that can happen to town on day 1 is to have a mafia mayor that we have no way to investigate. I welcome a DT to go ahead and clean me on night 1, but that choice is of course up to the DT. I'd rather be investigating potential mafia, but there is value to be gained in knowing you can trust me completely as well.

So vote YellowInk for mayor.


Even if the clue turns negative you're not clear at ALL. You said it yourself that it was a clear and obvious clue...its Day 1. I think we all should know better than to base all our suspicions on clues only. Besides I think that clue is way too obvious to be you.

I'd advise the DTs to actually start role-checking right away. You only have 3 role checks so use them as quick as possible (and as wisely as possible). Also mafia has a killing power of 3 so use your role checks before you get picked off. Also you can't use rolechecks on consecutive days either.

Once the DT has clearly identified the role of someone then they can start an inner circle and start from there. The only risk this strategy runs into is if they somehow check the Godfather...but thats a risk I'm willing to take since its 1/30 chance you somehow role-check the GF


Have you looked at my profile? There's nothing else in the entire opening flavor even close to linking to me, so if there's a clue pointing my way, it's the hot ink. If I were mafia, putting myself up like this would probably get me hung on day 2 or 3.

Contrast this to anyone else who could run for mayor. There would be no way to even get close to cleaning them. If a mafia ends up winning this election, immune to rolechecks and no way to even try to investigate them, it can be absolutely devastating.

Also, the DT can't use rolecheck 3 days in a row, but they can rolecheck consecutive nights. Your misquote of the rules makes me suspicious as to whether this was intentionally misleading or simply an error. I surely hope the real DTs read their roles carefully.


I don't exactly see how you putting yourself up like this would get you hung if you were Mafia but maybe i'm just stupid lolol. We could cluecheck the ink without having you as mayor mirite? At this point voting for you is a gamble that I'm not sure I'm willing to take. And, a lot of the other clues have very few candidates as well; you aren't exactly unique in this regard.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 04:31 GMT
#208
Yeah, at this point I really think we should elect someone with ZERO clues; safest bet IMO.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 04:50 GMT
#218
On June 03 2010 13:42 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 13:27 onihunter wrote:
On June 03 2010 13:18 YellowInk wrote:
On June 03 2010 13:06 zeks wrote:
On June 03 2010 12:56 YellowInk wrote:
I am running for mayor.

I have something that puts me a solid head above any other - and any townie that is considering running for mayor should give this serious thought before putting their name up in competition. I can be cleaned while in office. That there was a clear and obvious 'hot ink' clue puts me in a unique position to show that I am aligned with the town. Since I am sure I am town, I know the clue does not point to me and a clue check here will turn up negative. If I were mafia I could not be so confident - and continuing to draw attention to this fact would get me lynched as soon as the DT got around to checking it.

One of the worst things that can happen to town on day 1 is to have a mafia mayor that we have no way to investigate. I welcome a DT to go ahead and clean me on night 1, but that choice is of course up to the DT. I'd rather be investigating potential mafia, but there is value to be gained in knowing you can trust me completely as well.

So vote YellowInk for mayor.


Even if the clue turns negative you're not clear at ALL. You said it yourself that it was a clear and obvious clue...its Day 1. I think we all should know better than to base all our suspicions on clues only. Besides I think that clue is way too obvious to be you.

I'd advise the DTs to actually start role-checking right away. You only have 3 role checks so use them as quick as possible (and as wisely as possible). Also mafia has a killing power of 3 so use your role checks before you get picked off. Also you can't use rolechecks on consecutive days either.

Once the DT has clearly identified the role of someone then they can start an inner circle and start from there. The only risk this strategy runs into is if they somehow check the Godfather...but thats a risk I'm willing to take since its 1/30 chance you somehow role-check the GF


Have you looked at my profile? There's nothing else in the entire opening flavor even close to linking to me, so if there's a clue pointing my way, it's the hot ink. If I were mafia, putting myself up like this would probably get me hung on day 2 or 3.

Contrast this to anyone else who could run for mayor. There would be no way to even get close to cleaning them. If a mafia ends up winning this election, immune to rolechecks and no way to even try to investigate them, it can be absolutely devastating.

Also, the DT can't use rolecheck 3 days in a row, but they can rolecheck consecutive nights. Your misquote of the rules makes me suspicious as to whether this was intentionally misleading or simply an error. I surely hope the real DTs read their roles carefully.


I don't exactly see how you putting yourself up like this would get you hung if you were Mafia but maybe i'm just stupid lolol. We could cluecheck the ink without having you as mayor mirite? At this point voting for you is a gamble that I'm not sure I'm willing to take. And, a lot of the other clues have very few candidates as well; you aren't exactly unique in this regard.


The difference between me and others is that many of them are less clear and overlap. I would be willing to bet that we could try to put together a comprehensive list of how all the clues possibly attach to any of the profiles and there would be at least one mafia who we missed in that list.

If someone has multiple clues that could possibly point to them, they're a poor candidate for mayor since it would take several days to clean them. Because I have a singular clue, it puts me in the position to be cleaned efficiently.

Yes, if I am not elected to mayor, I'm sure a DT will still check my clue out and find that I am town. In this case I will be supportive in any way that I can. The point of electing me to mayor is that I can be efficiently cleaned in office where others can not. You will always have to wonder if the mayor is red.


I dunno, the fact that you're trying so hard makes me suspicious...but nonetheless you have a very valid point.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 05:12 GMT
#226
Right now I'd say that voting for YellowInk as mayor is about 50/50--the logic doesn't entirely hold (as evidenced by some previous posters) and, like I said earlier, he IS trying really hard, which is sketchy to me.

However, if we just choose someone who isn't linked to any clues yet, thats about an 80% chance he won't be Mafia--which is much higher than my confidence level about YellowInk.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 05:17 GMT
#227
ok guys, I'm going to bed; probably going to wake up to tons of reading material at the rate that this is going =PP
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 14:15 GMT
#247
hey first time checking this thread today

due to RL, i won't be able to post/read for several hours, just a heads up
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 22:43 GMT
#290
OK i finally caught up with all the reading! There seems to be a general agreement that Darth is pro-town; I'm getting the same vibe (excuse the strange word choice please :D). YellowInk DOES have sound logic despite his somewhat suspicious eagerness--meaning he's probably good too. BUT, as someone said above, he is causing quite a bit of conflict in general.

As people are posting more, I'm getting a better understanding of their character and thought processes and such. This is my first game, but it's been sick so far!

SO as of now, I'm leaning Darth until someone gives me a (good) reason otherwise
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 22:48 GMT
#291
I also agree with a lot of what crate said regarding strategy, also sound logic.

remember, we have to unite and minimize conflict--failing to do so plays right into the mafia's evil hands.

there are also a bunch of inactives still afaik---u guys should come out and post!
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 03 2010 22:49 GMT
#292
oh and what exactly happened with Darth last game lmao. i'm curious >>
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 04 2010 04:38 GMT
#342
I second crate's request: more information is always good. However, I think the trustworthyness/reliability/skill of the candidate is more important than his lynching policy. In all those three areas, I think Darth still scores highest for me. I also happen to agree with lynching inactives, since it is beneficial as someone earlier explained to me when I asked.

Wow if I read my last couple posts it sounds like I have a massive hard-on for him. <3.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 04 2010 05:21 GMT
#355
On June 04 2010 14:04 LunarDestiny wrote:
Am I the only one that stress that we only need the mayor position and is willing to give up pardoner position to the mafia. My voting for Darth is that I hope he is pro town. If he is not, GG. The format of this game is very weird. The game is intended that each side will get either the mayor or the pardoner role (look at the ability of mayor and pardoner, check and balance).

If Darth is pro town, then the pardoner role is almost a liability to town (that he might pardon two lynches in the late game).

I also want to suggest an alternative that might be very controversial. To lynch the pardoner on day2. This way, we eliminate the possibility that the mafia running for mayor but fail and get the pardoner role. This is just an alternative that we can use depending how the voting goes.

Again, this is all based on the fact that Darth is pro town (flamewheel, this format sucks so much for town)


That's pretty much a coin flip, since, as you said, Darth being mafia is GG. I suppose him being pro-town is higher than 50%, so, based on odds, it's a valid move and theoretically beneficial. I don't think many people would be comfortable with that though..

As for thoughts on candidates

Darth: General agreement is he posts like a townie, so that's a plus. Also experienced, but that's neither a plus nor a minus. He also seems clear-headed.

Yellow: Posts a LOT. Seems quite defensive when criticized, and I can't really say that I like the guy =/. Just personal preference though, nothing really concrete. Also inciting lots of arguing and conflict that is unnecessary at this point in the game.

Beardude: I really liked him until he responded to Inkguy's attack. His responses weren't that coherent though imo, and he seemed really emotional in that post to me. Also he himself stated that it's personal between the two now, sort of alienating me. However, he IS running for pardoner specifically.

Zeks: There isn't really that much past the few posts that contained mistakes, so can't say much. Suspicious in that he's not a newbie to this game, but I think it's forgivable.

Overall, no one's quite solid, but I'd say that Darth slightly edges out the rest. Basically even for the rest.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 04 2010 05:31 GMT
#364
On June 04 2010 14:23 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 14:21 onihunter wrote:
Darth: General agreement is he posts like a townie, so that's a plus. Also experienced, but that's neither a plus nor a minus. He also seems clear-headed.

Yellow: Posts a LOT. Seems quite defensive when criticized, and I can't really say that I like the guy =/. Just personal preference though, nothing really concrete. Also inciting lots of arguing and conflict that is unnecessary at this point in the game.

Beardude: I really liked him until he responded to Inkguy's attack. His responses weren't that coherent though imo, and he seemed really emotional in that post to me. Also he himself stated that it's personal between the two now, sort of alienating me. However, he IS running for pardoner specifically.

Zeks: There isn't really that much past the few posts that contained mistakes, so can't say much. Suspicious in that he's not a newbie to this game, but I think it's forgivable.

Overall, no one's quite solid, but I'd say that Darth slightly edges out the rest. Basically even for the rest.


Thanks yo.

BB said it WASNT personal. o.o

I'd like to see zeks post s'more. Where'd he go?

Correction: I'd like to see EVERYBODY post s'more.


My bad, I thought I remembered that he said that he had a grudge or something before the really long counter-post.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 04 2010 15:56 GMT
#398
looks like YellowInk is going to win mayor now, since he's posting so much, which reduces suspicion. At the same time, DTA is _probably_ going to get pardoner since he's very close in votes. I think a combo of YI and DTA in office would be good; both are essentially centers of the town, and DTA would provide a nice balance against YI's somewhat provocative/finger-pointing nature.

What do you guys think?
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 04 2010 15:58 GMT
#399
Hmm apparently some DTA votes weren't counted, so it might actually be the opposite, but the same thing applies.
jaedong forever~
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
June 04 2010 16:33 GMT
#406
Personally, I'm not "very certain" about either of them, but definitely more so for YI and DTA (since they are both very active and have given good tips/strategies), so that narrows it down.

Between the two, I'm more comfortable with voting for DTA because he's less provocative and seems to be more level-headed. Also, Darth lacks any clues (at least right now) so I've decided (finally) to vote for him. Really, both seem fine to me, but my gut says DTA.

My vote for first lynch would also go to laxer since he's on both lists, making him the best choice imo.
jaedong forever~
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