But brownbear, Mafia already have 6 votes upfront. That leaves 24 to be allocated to the remaining 3 (darth, you, and mafia) and we have no idea who the mafia is.

Also, I got to say, whoever elected as mayor and the pardoner are very suspicious since mafia have a high chance of getting either role.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 03 2010 23:40 GMT

#303

Think about the format of this game guys. Why are there a mayor and a pardoner spot?

Because the game is intend that mafia will get at least one spot. The pardoner's role is balance the game if so town or mafia get the mayor spot. The pardoner (mafia if town mayor, town if mafia mayor) can use his pardon ability to influence the game when he thinks the time is right.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 00:01 GMT

#306

People, I made a mafia war excel checklist for you guys. You don't have to use it. But if you are lazy to make one, then you might want to get it.

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LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 02:22 GMT

#312

YellowInk, you don't want to know who L is. And you hope in the future you don't play a mafia with L in it because he always cause a ruckus (good and bad).

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 02:59 GMT

#319

Outsider posts are never clues about the game. They just want to comment on how ridiculous the game is. Yeah, I think L is a super veteran mafia who always has a plan for games he play but often fail to convince that his plans are good.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 03:23 GMT

#324

YellowInk stop accusing everyone that disagree with you. it only make town confuse and get us nowhere.

Do I have to explain why i voted for Darth again. Yes, my vote was casted early and that is because of everyone playing in the game, Darth shown himself (to me at least) as the best mafia player. Also, no one found any clue pointing at Darth and that makes him the best candidate available.

Again, i didn't vote for him out of pity for that hilarious moment in "Bang Bang Mafia."

Is Darth a good candidate for mayor? I don't know.
But I do know is that there is no better candidate to be a mayor.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 03:41 GMT

#330

YellowInk, you can analyze post and ask question about why someone did that BUT stay away from those heavy phrase like "he's mafia" or "he acts scummy."

The mafia would love that townies direct their hates toward each other while they are in the dark, smiling. That is why I repeatly push that inactive to step up or be lynched.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 03:53 GMT

#336

INACTIVE please step up. There are a lot of progress in the thread but the voting is so little. The mafia would easily beat town to the mayor position if you guys don't participate.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 05:04 GMT

#348

Am I the only one that stress that we only need the mayor position and is willing to give up pardoner position to the mafia. My voting for Darth is that I hope he is pro town. If he is not, GG. The format of this game is very weird. The game is intended that each side will get either the mayor or the pardoner role (look at the ability of mayor and pardoner, check and balance).

If Darth is pro town, then the pardoner role is almost a liability to town (that he might pardon two lynches in the late game).

I also want to suggest an alternative that might be very controversial. To lynch the pardoner on day2. This way, we eliminate the possibility that the mafia running for mayor but fail and get the pardoner role. This is just an alternative that we can use depending how the voting goes.

Again, this is all based on the fact that Darth is pro town (flamewheel, this format sucks so much for town)

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 05:15 GMT

#351

Flamewheel did mention something about mod killing the inactive (those who didn't vote). Someone got to confirm with Flamewheel on that matter about will he really mod kill the inactive.

For the first lynch, I want the target to be an inactive (posted minimum to stay alive) and also has clues relating to him.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 05:38 GMT

#367

Hmm... I took a look on how many posts yellow ink made.

TL Mafia XXVI
61 68 172 187 190 197 199 210 215 216 222 223 228 230 251 252 261 262 272 274 276 280 283 285 286 288 311 315 316 317 320 321 327 329 335 338

Then I look at my numbers of post for comparison...
TL Mafia XXVI
15 40 110 118 121 130 136 141 155 157 240 263 266 267 268 273 275 277 296 298 299 302 303 306 312 319 324 330 336

I consider myself posting a lot.

But Yellow Ink man... most of his posts are pretty damn long. Either he is trying to be the Master Mafia, or he has no life and is pro town.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 05:48 GMT

#369

Sorry Darth, but yellow ink had been posting a lot. Willing to be in center of attention even though you are winning in the election by miles and his only vote is from himself.

Because of yellow ink's huge postings record, I have to say yellow ink's chance of being mafia is very, very low. And your chance of being mafia is higher (no offense).

I am going to do what seem like a retard thing that most people hear wouldn't agree on: to change my vote to Yellow Ink (WHAT?).
I weighed Yellow Ink's innocence against Darth's experience and chose the former.

Like I said before, mafia being Mayor is pretty much a GG. So I beg you guys to vote for Yellow Ink or change your vote to Yellow Ink.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 06:31 GMT

#377

My support for Yellow Ink is based on the nature of mafia games.

That, mafia don't want to be center of attention. Mafia also don't post a lot and write huge paragraphs.

Then there is "printer explode" hint that relates to Yellow Ink which inevitably going to be brought up at a point and I want to address it now. We need to be rational here. Would Flamewheel give a hint that is so apparent? Heck he might as well say:

"Flamewheel was hit by the lightning as the eclipse passes by."

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 08:02 GMT

#381

I don't get why people thinks YellowInk got good logic. Some of his arguments have major flaws in them. But that doesn't matter if he is willing to listen to logic and follow the majority. I would even go a step beyond and compare him to a pro town, a bit smarter Bill Murray.

Again, there is very little chance that YellowInk is mafia. I will repeat: Mafia do not want to present themselves as the center of attention. Mafia do not go to the thread and start accusing people left and right. Mafia also do not spam post like crazy.

We do not need a Mayor that is smart but might be mafia.
We need a Mayor who is 100% pro town and also listen to the majority. YellowInk satisfy this.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 08:12 GMT

#383

ElyAs, you brought up a good point that Darth pmed inactive. Mafia does not benefit from inactive not being mod killed. If they want their inactive members to do the minimum posting and not get mod kill, they can just pm their own members.

IF inactive shows up tomorrow, ask them:
Did they get the pm and when did they get the pm from Darth.
If the inactives can confirm that Darth sent them the pm, then Darth is almost certain not mafia.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 08:22 GMT

#384

Also, when asking they did they got the pm from Darth, tell them not to post the actual pm which is illegal in mafia war.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 16:26 GMT

#403

At this point, I am very certain that both Darth and YellowInk are pro town (darth with his pm to inactive and yellowink for his posting behavior).

It doesn't matter if you vote for Darth or YellowInk. I just want they to get 1st and 2nd place. And to the other running candidates, you are making yourself suspicious by not voting on Darth or YellowInk who are very certain to be pro town.

And to the Mafia: You guys have NO chance for either the mayor or pardoner spot.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 16:31 GMT

#404

Just checked the voting thread and seems that YellowInk is ahead of Darth.

To be honest, I am more comfortable with Darth being the pardoner because he checks on Mayor's and the town's action. His role is equally if not greater than mayor's role. The requirement of Pardoner is to make good decision (especially in the late game if the mafia has significant voting influence) about when to pardon.

With YellowInk as the mayor, he has to listen to the logic of the town before voting and I will be comfortable with that.

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

June 04 2010 16:58 GMT

#410

On June 05 2010 01:51 zeks wrote:
Something to think about:

How many of the 4 candidates are mafia? Tbh it would definitely be a shame / missed opportunity for the mafia to not send out a candidate at all in such a crucial point of the game.

Well, since the consideration of Darth and YellowInk being pro town was made about 12 hours ago, Zek and Brownbear ran for election a significant amount of time before that, we can't really tell if they are pro town or not. I can give you an argument (there are many more) from both sides:

Town
If mafia wants a position as mayor or pardoner. They would want to start a bang wagon early (at least one of them running and another supporting). Because both zek and brownbear only got 1 vote from themselves, it is not likely they are mafia.

Mafia
The mafia was unsure whether they should someone running for either in the beginning. When they finally made the decision to run for a position, arguments for Darth and YellowInk being Town started stacking up, and they gave up on the positions. It explains why the mafia only has 1 vote for their candidate.