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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 22 2010 06:57 BrownBear wrote: Well, since everyone else has namedropped in the past several pages, I might as well namedrop myself: I am Zhao Yun. I have the power of nightkill ^^ So with all the people who have roleclaimed, I think rather than looking at the people who have roleclaimed and analyzing to see if they're lying, it would be far more interesting to look at the people who HAVEN'T yet roleclaimed. They are: 1. Bill Murray 3. johnnyspazz 4. Radfield 5. Scamp 6. Ohn 7. Falcynn 8. Iaaan 9. L (states he has reasons for not doing so, since his role is a "poison pill") 10. BloodyCobbler 11. MyHeroNoob 15. TwotoneTerran 19. Trezequet23 20. Fishball (pretty sure the Qin Shi Huang roleclaim was a joke  )21. Lunardestiny 23. DarthThienAn 24. Jugan This is a (mostly accurate) list of the people who are still alive and have yet to roleclaim. It's far more likely that at least 1 or 2 of the faction leaders are hiding in the majority of people who don't roleclaim, rather than trying to lie and make up both a name, a role for that name, and reasoning behind that role. Honestly? I think at this point in the game, it would be a good idea to have everyone roleclaim, complete with their name. Then, we can focus on the people who either refuse to roleclaim, or make roleclaims that don't really make sense. Also, L, I understand you don't want to roleclaim, but especially with XeliN having claimed a role, that's putting you kinda back in the spotlight. It would be great if you could explain somehow either why your role would be useless if everyone knew about it, or if you could just roleclaim. If I win the dayvote, I will be sure to follow the will of the town, but the will of the town might be falling against you if you continue to be coy with your role. Well, a mass role claim is an interesting idea. I'm trying to figure out the pro's and con's. Obviously this puts heat on the leaders, given that they would need to come up with a name of some Three Kingdom person, and hope they don't overlap. If everyone has a unique name we could lynch the most obscure people. Obviously we know what to do if people overlap with names. However, if some of the leaders manage to hide, then it gives them a full list of roles, which would be invaluable to them. They would become very strong, very quick. Worth some thought though. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 22 2010 07:05 Bill Murray wrote: i don't see how my claiming will benefit the town. if enough veterans feel i need to, i will. The real question is if everyone claiming benefits the town. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 22 2010 07:15 L wrote: So, do you want me to claim or not? Entirely up to you. I'd be happy hearing your name, if you think it's important to keep your role secret. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On May 22 2010 06:16 XeliN wrote: Alright, I believe you in that case. Not going to change my vote though since I'm not really feeling to safe with L or tricode, but I hope BrownBear will see this and will know not to kill you.Ok cool, only wanted to address Falcynns idea that I was stalling for time in order to think up a role, that hopefully does so. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On May 22 2010 07:13 Radfield wrote: The real question is if everyone claiming benefits the town. Yeah, it was kind of just an idea I've had floating around in my head for a while... would have been a much better idea to do on day 1, honestly, but oh well. I think the pros outweight the cons, honestly. As it stands, there are at most 6 or 7 people who are faction-ized (depending on how many YT started with), and there's still like 14 people who are "neutral" so if we're going for the neutral victory, we should do this now rather than later. It means faction leaders have to figure out the name of a 3 kingdoms person of note, and hope there's no overlap. If there's overlap, suddenly we have 2 targets, so we lose 0-1 townies to get a faction leader. If people refuse to at least namedrop (possibly roleclaim too, although I'm pretty sure that's not as necessary), then we lynch them - either they're leaders, or they'd probably have been inactive/useless anyway. If, for some reason, everyone namedrops and there's no overlap, and everyone's name checks out, we're honestly no worse off than we were before. We even might have more to go on, depending on if Caller made the roles make sense for the names or not. If we want to do this, though, we have to do it today. The longer we wait, the more neutrals we're gonna lose. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Anyone have any misgivings about everyone claiming their character name, yet not their role?? I am Zhuge Liang | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On May 22 2010 07:16 Falcynn wrote: Alright, I believe you in that case. Not going to change my vote though since I'm not really feeling to safe with L or tricode, but I hope BrownBear will see this and will know not to kill you. Don't worry man, I'm taking note of that fact. If the "town" remains divided and doesn't give me a name, I'll either daykill L or, if he namedrops/roleclaims, go back to the "lets kill inactives" rule. Worked pretty well last time we did it  | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
Hesmyrr was cited by BM as being nearly confirmed towny, and while I would agree, it's due mostly to Hesmyrr's behaviour rather than any hard evidence, which would still make me leery about picking her (is hesmyrr or korynne female? or are they both?) | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On May 22 2010 07:25 LunarDestiny wrote: L, do you know the chinese name for your dude? According to wikipedia it's 孙尚香. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 22 2010 07:23 Falcynn wrote: Also, if we mass role/name claim, would you guys prefer it if we claimed in the thread? Or in a PM to a specific person? The one benefit of PMing an individual is that the leaders can't see what names are being claimed and are in more danger of overlapping. The primary danger though is that there are no 100% confirmed townies, so we run the risk of a FL possibly being able to weasel themselves out if they end up getting picked as the person to claim to. Hesmyrr was cited by BM as being nearly confirmed towny, and while I would agree, it's due mostly to Hesmyrr's behaviour rather than any hard evidence, which would still make me leery about picking her (is hesmyrr or korynne female? or are they both?) Korynne is female Hesmyrr is male to the best of my knowledge I don't like the idea of claiming to a person, as there is no person out there that all the townies can trust. We can all trust the thread to be neutral however. But you're right, it would be better if we could hide the names, I just don't think it's feasable. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On May 22 2010 07:23 Falcynn wrote: Also, if we mass role/name claim, would you guys prefer it if we claimed in the thread? Or in a PM to a specific person? The one benefit of PMing an individual is that the leaders can't see what names are being claimed and are in more danger of overlapping. The primary danger though is that there are no 100% confirmed townies, so we run the risk of a FL possibly being able to weasel themselves out if they end up getting picked as the person to claim to. Hesmyrr was cited by BM as being nearly confirmed towny, and while I would agree, it's due mostly to Hesmyrr's behaviour rather than any hard evidence, which would still make me leery about picking her (is hesmyrr or korynne female? or are they both?) If only we could, man. But sadly, as we don't know who's been recruited (and apparently, people might not even know IF they've been recruited), it's just better to post them in the thread. Worst-case scenario, if some people post waaaay after everyone else does, or posts a really really obscure name, then they'll be more suspicious, at least. Like Radfield said, no downside, potential HUGE upside. | ||
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