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Tricode
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On May 22 2010 04:08 Iaaan wrote: doesnt matter if L recruits more people, we can always kill him and his empire collapses if it turns out you aren't bsing. Well yeah it doesn't except that's one less army that could have been given to the town and that's another person who probably doesn't want to be recruited into a faction now having to be under L's Faction. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:14 Hesmyrr wrote: Your attempt to soak up today's lynch is quite obvious; if we hit Xelin, and he turns out to be recruiter, the # of people recruited at the night stays the same. If you really are DT, by letting Abenson - YT killer - hit you you will be in impenetrable position to lynch L tomorrow. In fact your insistence on killing him today only makes sense when you are YT trying to waste a day. I find it hilarious that you accuse me of being recruitment-influenced, when my roleclaim came from day 1 when we are free from such matters while you claimed day 2 which does not hold same guarantee. If "Abenson" -YT Killer- hits me I die. If he can do so now then w/e fine. If he can't then lets not waste time and kill L who is indeed a faction leader. Unless you have a better candidate and can out evidence the evidence against L. This is the best chance the town has to kill a faction leader fast and you actually want to blow it by holding it off? What do you have to gain by L surviving? If he dies one less player or MORE IMPORTANTLY, ONE LESS FACTION LEADER. Not even just that, if he is just a player then you found yourself a new body to kill, me (which won't happen cause he is a faction leader) stop trying to delay this and saving L it isn't like he is your mayor, body guard, medic, or a role so important that he will save the town and let the neutrals win. You only have things to gain by letting him die especially proving my innocence and killing a faction leader. Now tell me how there can be a better option then that? | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:25 Bill Murray wrote: for some reason i feel like tricode is a liar though, and i'm all for LaL Yeah, but when you feeling is proven wrong, what will you do then? | ||
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I doubt he fucked up that much or if he fucked up at all. I think you're just lying. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:29 Hesmyrr wrote: Jesus Christ. Looks like everything is thrown into the confusion. Let me propose alternative plan that I hope will make everybody happy. 1. We nominate BrownBear to NK Xelin NIGHT 2. Abenson hits Tricode 3. Veg, this should be BrownBear since you said you can NK, hit L. No one protects L. How about this? No! My ability says that L has 2 night hits what ever that means. I am assuming it takes 2 vg's to kill him dumb ass. L needs to be hanged. I'm pretty sure if I live or w/e how Abenson's role works where it proves my innocents. Then L is indeed a liar and needs to be executed and you did a gj of wasting a vg hit and time. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:29 LunarDestiny wrote: Ok Lu Meng, here goes. Lu Meng started as a uneducated general serving Wu (吳下阿蒙). After Zhou Yu's death, Wu was short in tacticians. Sun Quan told Lu Meng and a less important general Jiang Qin to study literature. After 3 days, they both became very intelligent (士别三日, 刮目相看). Lu Meng is famous for the death of Guan Yu. What happened was, Lu Meng faked sickness and sent a message to Guan Yu. Guan Yu got little bit over confident thinking that Wu would not attack him since Lu Meng is sick. Guan Yu then goes on attacking Wei's city guarded by Cao Ren and kicking Cao Ren's ass badly. Lu Meng, with a huge army, shows up surprising Guan Yu. Now Guan Yu is trapped in between Cao Ren and Lu Meng. What worse is that Lu Meng brought family members of Guan Yu's solders which made many Guan Yu's soldiers and two generals (Mi Fang and Fu Shi Ren defected. Guan Yu, ultimately ran out of food supply and surrendered. Guan Yu refused to surrender and was killed. Lu Meng also died shortly after (within a year I think). From all this, Lu Meng could be an insane dt since he is stupid in his early days. And I have to point out that Lu Meng lied to Guan Yu which caused Guan Yu's death. Sure, but Lu Meng in your story became intelligent quickly by doing an act (which I wasn't told of any conditions of my ability to make me sane if i was indeed insane.) Also this is Caller's game. So I my role being a dt who checks abilities and that, meh I have no clue, maybe something to ask in the end of the game or you just figure it out when my innocents is proven on later in the game or by my death. Finally this story means nothing to me and has no relevancy of my abilities and what I have found about L being a Faction leader. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:32 LunarDestiny wrote: Oh, to Tricode's defence, Lu Meng is one the of best general in ROTK and he became a decent scholar after studying hard for 3 days (why I can't do that in real life). I was writing my own thing while you wrote this lol. Thanks. | ||
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On May 22 2010 04:38 LunarDestiny wrote: Well, Zhuge Liang is famous for out smarting his opponent. But yeah. Although Sima Yi is Wei's top tactician, He scouted out many famous general for Wei. Seriously I have no idea what you're talking about here. Is the movie/game/book/ or w/e that good? Like which do you recommend and if you refer me the game which system please lol? | ||
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On May 22 2010 05:46 Radfield wrote: Tricode, if you were insane or paranoid, you absolutely would NOT be informed in your role PM. That's how it works. I'm still not sure how a role cop can be insane/paranoid though? He would just get a random role or something? Well if I'm insane or not, no better way of proving then by killing L since I checked him and he showed up to me as faction leader by his abilities. Making L even more of a prime candidate. Also either case let's say I am insane or w/e and then Town kills me and I showed to be DT, it will let other Dt's know that there is a possibility of this insanity. Though I am doubting I'm insane we only have things benefiting everyone by killing L. I'm still highly doubtful I'm insane. Though we will see after L's death and worse case scenario L's death then my Death. Either scenario L needs to die for a whole lot of information to be revealed and that when it is shown he is a Faction Leader we get total benefits and nothing to lose! | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:36 L wrote: Because he probably hit me and had the hit blocked by Lu Xun, then figured that a role with night defence had to be a ruler. Since he's had it out for me since prior to day 1 ending, it makes sense that he'd try to wagon me. If he's right? Awesome, he gains massive cred. If he's wrong? Tricode doesn't think about such things. Or much in general anyways. Gee, L picking a name and you guys know these characters of this game/story/movie. Oh wait, after being accused and asking for a role ability and having him publicly announce it after such a long time, there is no way in hell that L could find a name and just give it to you guys with a fake ability? Because that's just simply impossible right? Come on, the fact he did so "So fast" in your opinion is because he was ready for it and he wants attention taken off of him. He is just trying to manipulate anyone he can and make himself look like the innocent one. Then he will gain more time in how to make another one of you guys his pawns if I die and show I'm legit. He'll probably make the excuse "Oh he was insane." Then everyone will be "Maybe we should hold off on L again and kill someone else that's innocent". This guy will continue to manipulate his way out of this and do the same in the future if you let him. Don't let him get away with this! Once again, I gain no benefit from killing him unless he is a faction leader and to indulge everyone, let's just pretend i was in another faction. My main enemy would still be the other faction leaders so either case finding another faction leader and getting them killed is in our best interest anyways. I have never held a grudge if you look at my previous mafia games and the only times I attacked L is when he is fully suspicious to me, like i did in my last mafia game I played where L was the god father. Once again, no matter what side team or anything I'm on the whole goal is to kill a Faction Leader otherwise What plausible good reasoning would I have or gain from killing L? Also what good does it do for the town to keep him alive? Look at all the chaos he is causing, he just wants to survive and has an excuse for everything! Once again I implore you to think about it. If I die and turn legit, think of all the excuses L can use to keep himself alive! Insane DT, use another one of you as his pawns, or do what ever! He set himself up to always avoid being a target with mountains of lies and excuses. Don't let him fool you! | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:49 BrownBear wrote: So then, Tricode would be the vig that hit L besides me, then? That would make more sense. Also it would make Tricode an idiot to claim rolecop... Actually, Tricode has stated that if we sic Abenson (can only kill YTs) on him, then he will die. It would make sense for YT to start with a KP, actually... the pieces are all starting to come together. I think Tricode is a Yellow Turban. Not the YT recruiter... but he's more likely than not to be a member. I missread. But Abenson can go ahead and waste his time. I wont die if he can only kill YTs. Though you will only be delaying L's death and proving my innocence will continue the with the chaos until L's dead. Cause my death will only prove my innocence but L once again will find a way to manipulate everyone. | ||
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On May 22 2010 07:55 Falcynn wrote: Well, in response to that part, I'm pretty sure they meant "so fast" in comparison to everyone else. So yeah, L had enough time to find a name/role, but considering not many others posted their names, he was in serious danger of overlapping someone elses name since only a handful of players so far have claimed. In regards to the rest of your post, you should probably focus more on defending yourself than citing reasons to kill L. I'm pretty sure that if L isn't lynched tonight, he'll most likely be vig'd at night. Let's say he isn't lynched tonight and he is Faction leader. He has 2 night lives. So what's the point of vg hit? Then the vg has to claim this. Let's say L some how convinces you that the vg is lying. That's another person dead and L recruits more people. You then just killed me and another innocent person and L survived twice in a row. That means less neutrals for you guys "Cause town is recruited by L and the other faction leaders" and L just sits back and enjoys manipulating the town like puppets. Why not just kill him and get this over with? It's the best solution to clear everyone name and save as many people possible. Not only that, a faction leader dies! Once again to indulge people, let's say L turns up to be what he claims and well w/e i fucked up, I'll just e killed and dt's will know there are insane dt's after I show up legit. Even then you won't have to waste a lynch on me cause someone can just kill me at night. That's the safest way to play this! We have nothing to lose by killing L, we only stand to gain! Remember Faction leaders have 2 night hits so hitting them at night is pointless! | ||
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On May 22 2010 08:12 Radfield wrote: Not how it works Tricode. Dt's can have different sanity levels, you might have some be paranoid, some normal etc. I Know how it works I played a game with insane dts. I know with enough death's and role checks any of them can figure out eventually how their sanity works. But the idea is i'm doubtful that there is a sanity factor right now. Not saying there isn't a slight chance there is, but I'm doubtful. L's death or my death following after will show there might be a insanity paranoid or w/e issue for dts to look into. Though you're skipping the main important thing about how L with out any proof if a dt is insane or not will most likely use that excuse to keep himself alive longer. Also the fact VGing L won't work if he is a faction leader cause it takes 2 hits and you have to trust the person claiming to be VG is telling the truth about their role. Finally, I say best scenario is kill L that way his 2 night hit will become invalid and he dies. Then if L flips something that isn't faction leader VG me and you guys can happily continue your game with more information and less chaos. | ||
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On May 22 2010 08:59 BrownBear wrote: Oh snap. What does this say about DarthThienAn, now? He was the only person who voted for L during the earlier "hey let's kill L cause Tricode rolechecked him" bandwagon before that one got blown to shit. See, I knew that Radfield would get visited a bunch after being so successful on day one. Called it. Fucking called it ^^ Listen, you don't have to be an asshole about it. If you plan to do my plan kill L for the lynch, by all means do so you can even have my vote. Hell I would encourage everyone to vote for you just so you can prove my innocence. Though when you lynch L and he is a Faction leader and/or/if i die and prove to be DT. I would appreciate you not being an ass to me cause I won't be an ass to you. Same goes with the rest of you. I have done nothing to offend you by silly name calling or calling you any names. I think I have been respectful other then calling out L's lie cause well that's part of the game lying. So by tomorrow if you have most of the votes then you get mine as long as you can keep the promise of killing L and/ or come up with a plan that makes the town happy that involves L's lynch first to guarantee L's death cause he has 2 night hits. If you do stick to your word thank you for that much. | ||
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On May 22 2010 09:12 DarthThienAn wrote: easy. I thought Tricode was bs. so I voted for L = not vote for Tricode. I don't get why you're offended? nothing in that quote was even target at you.. Being told to shut the fuck up and having no one even listening to me is what I'm not happy about. I have already had a few people make the claim that they will stop reading my posts which is unfair and stupid in my opinion. I should be looked at to clear my name and point out my reasons and logic with out people thinking I'm a dumb ass. I think the appropriate thing should be to look at L's and my Death before making such comments as "I'm not looking at Tricode's posts anymore" (BM) and being told to shut the fuck up and being told I'll e ignored. Though maybe I'm just flustered cause I know i'm innocent and what info i got on L. I should really just trust in the town to make the right choice. | ||
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Please consider this when you make your votes. | ||
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On May 22 2010 09:22 DarthThienAn wrote: Unless you're talking about a PM, I still don't see anything that would offend you. It'd be better if you quoted a post that actually bmed you, rather than quoting a post that has nothing to do with what you're saying. Furthermore, "flaming and trolling" are encouraged in this game. You should have read the rules. You should be open to these things, and not get offended. Yeah I know it is encouraged. Doesn't mean i can't speak against it? Or are yous saying I can't do that? If i am asking a player to show me the same respect and it works why not? | ||
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Sorry about that. | ||
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Just got back and read the thread. What do you want me to look for? I reread it many times. | ||
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