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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 18 2010 08:16 GMT
#241
it turns out that I can donate my armies and not day vig someone
I am therefore going to vote for L, who will then probably lynch me
this will work out for the best for everyone.

thank you,
bill
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 18 2010 09:44 GMT
#242
On May 18 2010 17:00 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2010 14:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 18 2010 12:09 Falcynn wrote:
Well, since I don't have to be paranoid about people suspecting me of being mafia for bandwagoning in this setup, I'm just gonna go ahead and jump on the bandwagon and give my army to radfield for no other reason than I have no reason to really target anyone considering the teams aren't even concrete


You didn't read the game, there is no "mafia" per se in this game. there are 4 factions competing, read the rule set. Also, jumping in on bandwagons is retarded this early on in the game.




Uhh... did you not read his post? He's specifically stating that he's glad he DOESN'T have to worry about people yelling "MAFIA" because there are no mafia in this game, and he knows there are 4 factions. Perhaps you should read peoples' posts before you flame them.


or perhaps you shouldn't because trolling and flaming are highly encouraged.

=D
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
May 18 2010 09:53 GMT
#243
Yeah, this thread encourages posters to lie. All posts except the first post is can be a lie. This is what Mafia type games are all about.

THIS POST IS NOT A LIE.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 18 2010 10:11 GMT
#244
K, so this thread looked like a massive clusterfuck and I hadn't bothered to read the rules so I had no idea what was going on. Then I read the rules and everything made less sense.

Instead of talking about people they'd want killed on day one, people are busy giving someone a free day vig power. So lets talk about people that should be killed.

Target 1:

On May 18 2010 11:43 Abenson wrote:
Yay
*Jumps on bandwagon*
##VOTE: Radfield


I can't understand abenson shitting around after being repeatedly told to stop being such a waste of air.

On the topic of "can the person granted the day vig hit disobey the town?" well sure, but then we just shoot him the day after. I'd expand upon this but I'd rather not until someone's dumb enough to pick someone random for their day hit.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 18 2010 10:21 GMT
#245
On May 18 2010 14:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2010 07:10 Radfield wrote:
On May 18 2010 05:18 johnnyspazz wrote:
On May 18 2010 05:08 Radfield wrote:
Time to have someone make a bid for my armies. Convince me why you should get the glory and power of my army.

Who will you kill? Why?

i think you should have the power to lead the lynch since you were so good in PYP 1
##Vote Radfield



Sounds good to me


Send me your armies!! For I will make this a better game! How you ask? Why by killing those tag-along, verge of getting modkilled, just post enough to get by players. Those players are BORING, and lack both sass AND pizazz. At the end of the day, we'll (I'll) figure out who the least posting and uninspired player is and swoop down to DeathStar their planet.

In the unlikely event that everyone is moderately active, I will kill someone else. I'm open to suggestions.



So, you have a plan to kill inactives? Cool.

However, you stress the word I'll" decide who to kill. This strikes me as a Leaderish sort of talk.
Why you ask?

Because by stressing that You will decide over the majority, it means you already have a predisposed agenda. This would put you as the head of yellow turbans, wei, wu, or shu.

This could easily be a minor error in your writing, however, it seems unlikely.

Your idea to kill inactives is sound only so long as we haven't narrowed down someone who is an obvious yellow turban. Untop of it, your bandwagon is insanely suspicious for such an early start.




The 'I'll' in my post was a joke. As in, once you give me your armies, I could theoretically kill whoever I wanted to. In fact, I'd say 'we'll' is much more leaderish talk then I'll.

Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 18 2010 10:23 GMT
#246
But obviously killing whomever I want probably wouldn't be so good for me when the next day rolls around.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 18 2010 10:26 GMT
#247
kill the yellow turban leader
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 18 2010 10:39 GMT
#248
I find L and BC's play currently to be aligned with their "blue" play. BC is a "i'll take over while I'm alive" sort of player when he's blue (with a power role). L is more of the laid back style as detective as can be seen from micro mafia 2. Both of them are in tune with this. BC has criticized the town already, denounced the current "leader" (clearly wanting it himself as he did as the detective-mayor), and is trying to sway the spotlight in his direction through having a few drawn out amazing posts in an a la ver mode. His play makes him an obvious number one target on who could potentially be the Faction Leader we need to eliminate. He is also fishing for information in his post directed towards Radfield. BC says:

"This strikes me as a Leaderish sort of talk.
Why you ask?"


I'll tell you why. Because he is the yellow turban leader, and is fishing to see if Radfield is potentially on his side without him dying (yellow turbans obviously can't recruit leaders). Radfield gives him the advantage in two ways:
1) he is currently swaying the army voting and has power
2) he is a smart, good, solid player who would be a practical addition to BloodyC0bbler's turbans.


L has been quiet, and really not posting as much (wanting to stay out of the fray) until I mentioned his name at all. I am surprised people are not donating their armies to a veteran, and are donating to a "new" player "who has played well in the past" in Radfield, who is my 3rd suspect in reasons I will be giving after this is finished on L. L may just be busy living it up (as it's a great time of year), and we can hold him accountable if he doesn't "come out of his blue shell". I would suggest him as a secondary target for "who is a faction leader we need to kill"

He is likely Cao Cao in my opinion.

Radfield is a little harder to pin, and my reasoning is because of the past success of "good, new players" in getting roles. I gave Korynne a spot in the mafia in my LAMM, and citi.zen has been elected to become mafia in a few games since his success. Hell, flamewheel even let me have a shot. What I'm getting at is Radfield could potentially be Sun Quan or Liu Bei (though I kind of doubt it).

Trust me on this one, BloodyC0bbler would be a good lynch for us in terms of balancing the game and lowering the skill ceiling for us relatively noob players. He is most definitely a power role, and is the player I would deem "most likely to be leading the yellow turbans" based NOT ONLY upon his being a good player who is favored but ALSO upon his posting fishing for information out of Radfield.

Whoever is elected, I implore you to consider lynching BC.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 18 2010 11:12 GMT
#249
On May 18 2010 19:26 Bill Murray wrote:
kill the yellow turban leader


BUT YOU ARE THE YELLOW TURBAN LEADER?

What has this game come to????
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 18 2010 12:48 GMT
#250
On May 18 2010 19:39 Bill Murray wrote:
I gave Korynne a spot in the mafia in my LAMM,


Thanks Bill, it was fun. =D
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 18 2010 13:01 GMT
#251
Being Cao Cao woulda been pretty sweet, but I never get roles I ask for.

Not even Manuel L. Hackson

In fact I yelled at caller for not giving me Cao Cao, but he told me all the roles were done by RNG exclusively (and as a side note I owe Ace a punches for that). Because of that, I don't think your case against BC is as strong as you've made it out to be.

I still think abenson is a better kill because frankly stupidity like his should be metagamed against. He's basically afk trolling deadweight every game. In terms of the behavioral analysis, all of the pins you put on BC can be put on abenson as well, but abenson doesn't act differently when he's mafia or town. If he's part of the turbans, there's pretty much nothing that'll give him away later on, and he'll always be a "oh, we'll kill him tomorrow" candidate.

That said, under abenson I'd put BC until he makes a reply post.

Apart from those two, Jugan, Scamp and Tricode seem to be worthy people to pressure or kill on day 1. Maybe more pressure when it comes to scamp, but the other two are just as deadweight.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 18 2010 13:04 GMT
#252
Oh, also, callers:

Initially each faction consists of just one person. Every night, each faction may recruit another player to their team. Some players are unrecruitable, however, including enemy faction leaders. If the faction leader is slain, the entire faction collapses and dies with him. However, you can recruit enemy players as long as they are not the faction leader. If a player is recruited by multiple faction leaders at the same time, they all cancel out.

There is also a 4th Party in the form of the Yellow Turbans. They may recruit anybody but faction leaders and Yellow Turbans cannot be recruited. However, if the Yellow Turbans try to recruit a faction leader, they all die.
The wording of this is ambiguous because of its position. Do the turbans start with multiple players?
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 18 2010 13:07 GMT
#253
I was just typing that out, lucky I went back to check the wording again, but yeah I'd like to know if the starting teams consist of 4 players only or if the simpsons begin as a family.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 18 2010 13:59 GMT
#254
Also would like to know what happens if:

Someone is recruited into a faction, lets say the Blue one. Then the next night 2 of the other factions attempt to recruit the same person.

It seems fairly obvious that in such a case it would be cancelled out and they would stay blue but just to double check.
Adonai bless
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 18 2010 14:01 GMT
#255
On May 18 2010 22:59 XeliN wrote:
Also would like to know what happens if:

Someone is recruited into a faction, lets say the Blue one. Then the next night 2 of the other factions attempt to recruit the same person.

It seems fairly obvious that in such a case it would be cancelled out and they would stay blue but just to double check.

If a player is recruited by multiple faction leaders at the same time, they all cancel out.

heil Caller
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 18 2010 15:21 GMT
#256
caller can say one thing and have done another
the wording BC used in talking to radfield is a dead giveaway of him fishing for information on leaders
the main reason we need worry that he could be doing that is because he is the yellow turban leader
i will admit that it is a necessity for people to do that from every player slot.
it would also be in your benefit to lie, L, about the method he used to pick.
based upon my character, though, i can GUARANTEE he handpicked roles.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 18 2010 15:29 GMT
#257
On May 19 2010 00:21 Bill Murray wrote:
caller can say one thing and have done another
the wording BC used in talking to radfield is a dead giveaway of him fishing for information on leaders
the main reason we need worry that he could be doing that is because he is the yellow turban leader
i will admit that it is a necessity for people to do that from every player slot.
it would also be in your benefit to lie, L, about the method he used to pick.
based upon my character, though, i can GUARANTEE he handpicked roles.

and i can GUARANTEE that they were randomly generated
just ask BC how well i randomly generate roles
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 18 2010 15:29 GMT
#258
by the way if i didn't answer your question there's a reason i didn't ^_^
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 18 2010 15:50 GMT
#259
Ah ok so they start with more then 1, that makes sense tbh, in which case mayb suspect lynching might be more viable for day 1, although I'm not against inactive//Abenson
Adonai bless
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 18 2010 16:24 GMT
#260
On May 19 2010 00:50 XeliN wrote:
Ah ok so they start with more then 1, that makes sense tbh, in which case mayb suspect lynching might be more viable for day 1, although I'm not against inactive//Abenson



The great thing is there's no way to mess up the lynch/DayVig today. We don't need a majority, we can't hit a townie, the worst we can do is.... there is no worst.

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