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Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
May 08 2010 14:34 GMT
#901
Bah, sorry for being inactive, no excuse really other than I just randomly didn't check in. I skimmed through the thread just now, but I have no idea who to vote for as I'm not finding anyone who seems to come out as a better candidate for lynching than anyone else. I'll try to read through the thread more in depth, but it seems that no one else has voted yet so I'm hoping I have some more time. How much more time until the night post?
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 08 2010 15:10 GMT
#902
If we absolutely want to go by the number system idea, then we should lynch/compvig OpZ, Falcynn, and Foolishness. Since OpZ and Falcynn could both have been [4][1] (which would work nicely with the 6, 8, and 12), and Foolishness claims [1][1], which could be mafia trying to make people who said they would go for 1,1 like L move to the back of the line.

Since citi.zen's okay with thinking Qatol is green (and he seems more vet than me xP), then I'm basically down for:

Lynching OpZ, compvig Falcynn and lynching Foolishness tomorrow.

Falcynn, day ends in ~12 hours. If you skim at least read the omg-mod-text font. xP
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 08 2010 16:25 GMT
#903
On May 08 2010 16:03 Korynne wrote:
OpZ that seriously made very little sense with the BP claiming... No one wants to die. Claiming BP is letting yourself die to lynching... no one's that stupid.

...We would lynch the BP?

-_- That's just retarded....
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 08 2010 16:28 GMT
#904
I repeat, if you are bulletproof, you would be a retard to claim bulletproof and let the town lynch you.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 08 2010 16:36 GMT
#905
On May 08 2010 18:57 Qatol wrote:
And I realize my proposal is somewhat similar to something OpZ has been talking about. The only difference is this way doesn't involve a modkill.

You use my idea, AND PUSH FOR MY LYNCH.

Wow...Are you fucking kidding me?

My BP idea? Well hello, we can verify BP! Have foolishness HIT him. Mafia can't claim it and be legit unless the mafia got it. I think it would be interesting to see because the role is actually pretty useless for mafia (SK bullets smack through it). That was my idea. Not like the mafia had truly to fear the comp vig...Easy kill on him.

That was why I said BP should claim. It makes wonderful sense to me. Foolishness can verify BP.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 08 2010 16:39 GMT
#906
On May 09 2010 01:28 Korynne wrote:
I repeat, if you are bulletproof, you would be a retard to claim bulletproof and let the town lynch you.

The town WOULD NOT LYNCH BP.

Foolishness would attempt to HIT BP.

BP would not die. and WOW...Verified townie RIGHT THERE. Vet is the role the mafia would choose, not BP. But I'm sure they'd rather something else. Anyone noticed there is apparently NO dt? -_-
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 08 2010 16:54 GMT
#907
And Also...I'm being lynched because I could of lied about my numbers? Any of us could have lied. I actually picked 2 numbers. And I explained how I fucking picked my numbers if you don't recall. Go read my posting history. Citizen duped me.

God...This is funny to me. Qatol just says lynch me so we go after me. Funny how he's also aware that foolishness doesn't like me too. I'd make since to bandwagon because foolishness would jump on my lynch easier than others. Please go to another target, and if you must Comp vig me. But remember, qatol said it himself. I've been screaming town all game, and he doesn't think I'm smart enough to do that and be mafia. Remember?

-_-

Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 08 2010 18:42 GMT
#908
Okay, foolishness would attempt to hit BP, so we lose one attempt to hit mafia, great plan.
Oh the other hand if we don't claim BP, then mafia could hit BP and we would have more time.
Excellent idea OpZ.

Also, even though we'll have a verified townie, we have one extra townie left. So it's pretty much the same. So I'm thinking either you or Falcynn should claim BP if you are BP, otherwise noone else should because mafia is more likely to hit us and not claiming BP would be beneficial for that.

You guys could've lied without risk, the rest of us couldn't. That's what I'm saying with the numbers.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 08 2010 19:21 GMT
#909
On May 09 2010 01:36 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 18:57 Qatol wrote:
And I realize my proposal is somewhat similar to something OpZ has been talking about. The only difference is this way doesn't involve a modkill.

You use my idea, AND PUSH FOR MY LYNCH.

Wow...Are you fucking kidding me?

My BP idea? Well hello, we can verify BP! Have foolishness HIT him. Mafia can't claim it and be legit unless the mafia got it. I think it would be interesting to see because the role is actually pretty useless for mafia (SK bullets smack through it). That was my idea. Not like the mafia had truly to fear the comp vig...Easy kill on him.

That was why I said BP should claim. It makes wonderful sense to me. Foolishness can verify BP.

Yes we can verify BP. I'll even assume that the BP is innocent (though we have no reason to believe that - mafia could have taken the role to deny it from the town). 3 issues:
1. Why should we think there even is one?
2. If we DO shoot the BP does it help us? It results in a 3 townies 1 mafia end game which is still lynch or lose. The town could follow the BP's selection about who is mafia, but that's still a 1 in 3 chance of hitting red unless the BP has a strong read.
3. What if the last mafia has the Jack of All Trades role? We still haven't seen that role show up, and we definitely haven't seen it use its night kill ability unless it was blocked and nobody claimed (unlikely). If that last player is Jack, we may have to win this with that night hit that you want to use on the bulletproof.

I'd just rather take 3/2 shots at winning this instead of 2/1 (lynch, compvig hit, lynch(if no jack))
Also, BP may still be able to soak the Jack hit.
Uff Da
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 08 2010 19:29 GMT
#910
So OpZ, instead of possibly faking activity with this whole BP idea, care to point out who your top two suspects are from: Falcynn, Qatol, me and yourself?
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 08 2010 19:47 GMT
#911
On May 08 2010 23:29 citi.zen wrote:
LOL @ foolish(ness).

So... with Zona red I am more inclined to think Qatol is town. Not sure who I like as red and on weekends I always have less time. Opz seems like a good candidate, and am OK lynching foolishness too.

We decided that the final lynch or lose situation is slightly easier if we don't kill Foolishness now.
You are probably taking the mafia hit tonight (because of your numbers), so please pick all 3 hits you want to see done.
That leaves 4 players for our first 2 hits: Korynne, OpZ, Falcynn, and myself.
If you want to take me off the list too, that leaves Korynne, OpZ, and Falcynn. Please pick 2 of them. Then add Foolishness to the list and pick 1 more player.

Apparently Foolishness can't shoot himself. Unfortunate. That said, the two I would like to see take a hit are Korynne and OpZ. Sorry OpZ, I know we are using you a bit. However, do you see what kind of situation we are placed in? You, Korynne, and Falcynn will likely each push for the other 2 to die right now. That leaves the other 3 of us to figure out who to lynch/CompVig. I just don't see Falcynn being able to make the night hit on JeeJee. (I checked his posts and basically all of his posts in the last week have either been here or in a blog about his film. I think his activity levels are at least the same on TL as they are here.)
That leaves me with Korynne and OpZ. I'm okay with dealing with you two in either order. However, I'm thinking I want OpZ to go first because of Korynne's CompVig claim. Yes, I realize that OpZ claimed he also went for it and missed, but Korynne claimed first. I think it is more likely that she does not have a role. Meanwhile, with OpZ's newfound interest in the BP role, I think there is a possibility that he has said role. If we want to kill the two, we need to lynch him and shoot her. It can't be the other way around.
The only reason I can see for going after Falcynn is in the hopes that he has the Jack role.

So I guess I'm advocating this order: OpZ, Korynne, Foolishness.
Thoughts citi.zen? Foolishness?
Uff Da
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 08 2010 20:19 GMT
#912
I guess if that's what it comes down to. =(

If Falcynn is mafia I'm blaming it all on you Qatol. xD
If Qatol turns out mafia then it's citi.zen's fault for clearing you. =P

With a good amount of you wanting me dead I don't suppose there's anything I can do about it. Foolishness has been wanting to get his hands on me for ages. xP

I guess I'm okay with this plan, I could always try to argue between me and Falcynn if/after OpZ turns out town.

So we all good with lynching OpZ then? (other than OpZ, of course. xD)

I'd like to hear if OpZ has a roleclaim before he is lynched.
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 08 2010 20:49 GMT
#913
On May 09 2010 05:19 Korynne wrote:
I guess if that's what it comes down to. =(

If Falcynn is mafia I'm blaming it all on you Qatol. xD
If Qatol turns out mafia then it's citi.zen's fault for clearing you. =P

With a good amount of you wanting me dead I don't suppose there's anything I can do about it. Foolishness has been wanting to get his hands on me for ages. xP

I guess I'm okay with this plan, I could always try to argue between me and Falcynn if/after OpZ turns out town.

So we all good with lynching OpZ then? (other than OpZ, of course. xD)

I'd like to hear if OpZ has a roleclaim before he is lynched.

Arrgghhh this is why I want to kill you, you shouldn't be wanting to die just like that, especially if you're innocent. You should be far from okay with this plan.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 08 2010 21:00 GMT
#914
On May 09 2010 04:47 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 23:29 citi.zen wrote:
LOL @ foolish(ness).

So... with Zona red I am more inclined to think Qatol is town. Not sure who I like as red and on weekends I always have less time. Opz seems like a good candidate, and am OK lynching foolishness too.

We decided that the final lynch or lose situation is slightly easier if we don't kill Foolishness now.
You are probably taking the mafia hit tonight (because of your numbers), so please pick all 3 hits you want to see done.
That leaves 4 players for our first 2 hits: Korynne, OpZ, Falcynn, and myself.
If you want to take me off the list too, that leaves Korynne, OpZ, and Falcynn. Please pick 2 of them. Then add Foolishness to the list and pick 1 more player.

Apparently Foolishness can't shoot himself. Unfortunate. That said, the two I would like to see take a hit are Korynne and OpZ. Sorry OpZ, I know we are using you a bit. However, do you see what kind of situation we are placed in? You, Korynne, and Falcynn will likely each push for the other 2 to die right now. That leaves the other 3 of us to figure out who to lynch/CompVig. I just don't see Falcynn being able to make the night hit on JeeJee. (I checked his posts and basically all of his posts in the last week have either been here or in a blog about his film. I think his activity levels are at least the same on TL as they are here.)
That leaves me with Korynne and OpZ. I'm okay with dealing with you two in either order. However, I'm thinking I want OpZ to go first because of Korynne's CompVig claim. Yes, I realize that OpZ claimed he also went for it and missed, but Korynne claimed first. I think it is more likely that she does not have a role. Meanwhile, with OpZ's newfound interest in the BP role, I think there is a possibility that he has said role. If we want to kill the two, we need to lynch him and shoot her. It can't be the other way around.
The only reason I can see for going after Falcynn is in the hopes that he has the Jack role.

So I guess I'm advocating this order: OpZ, Korynne, Foolishness.
Thoughts citi.zen? Foolishness?

Well, obviously I'm not okay with this plan as it involves killing me. And isn't it fortunate that I can't shoot myself?

Pertaining to the parts of the plan that do not involve me, however, I agree that if we're going to lynch Opz we should do it during the day instead of at night. I posted earlier that I was skeptical about Opz because he claimed he picked a role without reading the thread, which I think is incredibly odd. Looking at the role list, it's easy to see that CompVig is one of the best roles to choose from, and given he was 6 on the draft list it doesn't seem sensible to choose it.

Falcynn's recent inactivity has me thinking he might be mafia. I don't think he has a role though because he doesn't strike me as the type to lie about having one. I've also noticed that in a lot of games he plays as if he was a first time noob, and says things like, "but I'm just a noob at this game so I don't know any better", and "this is just my noob perspective". And every time he says these things he's innocent (I can think of two games off the top of my head); I remember because I always think he's mafia when he says stuff like that, but he turns out innocent every time. The overall point I'm making is that this game I don't think I've heard him say anything of the sort, and thus he's deviating from his normal innocent play.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
May 08 2010 21:17 GMT
#915
Regarding the Falcynn thing though, I'm pretty sure he's said that.
Falcynn's basically said:
I was away for my filming thing [insert a bit of advertising for it]
The other thing was that he did mention the whole well I'm trying to contribute people complained about that in previous games and I always agree with people etc etc. I can find that post for you if you don't find it Foolishness, but he does mention something like I'm trying to participate more kinda thing.

Why do you keep going back to the same thing Foolishness? So if I say OH MY GAWD I DONT WANNA DIE DONT KILL ME you'll be okay with not lynching me? I mean if you keep repeating that it's scummy then it's not like as a scum or a townie I would want to keep doing that if I wanted to get rid of your suspicions. But seriously I don't see the point here, it's like when XeliN was like omg you didn't claim town to me so you suspicious. But like, who cares, it's not like as a townie or as a mafia I would pick differently in my opinion. If I'm doing something so obviously scummy and I keep doing it then like, it's just me doing it... you can't really take anything out of it other than your first instinct of that's scummy, and nothing I can do now will change that.

Like I said, I'll wait 'til after OpZ is lynched to deal with defending myself and what nots. Let's get this first one over with. Everyone's pretty much like yeah okay Foolishness is going to be lynched tomorrow, it's not like you're jumping on defending yourself either. So should I assume you're mafia because you're doing what you said is scummy? >_>
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
May 08 2010 21:20 GMT
#916
## vote OpZ##
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
May 08 2010 21:24 GMT
#917
Eh, nothing to add. If opz turns out innocent then I'll probably end up getting into an argument with Korynne , but I'll wait until then to start finger pointing and just move this whole thing right along.

##Vote OpZ##
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 08 2010 21:29 GMT
#918
On May 09 2010 06:20 citi.zen wrote:
## vote OpZ##

Could you contribute more on secondary suspects at some point please? It doesn't have to be now, but it has to be before the next day post.
Oh, and ##vote OpZ##
Uff Da
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 08 2010 21:31 GMT
#919
On May 09 2010 06:17 Korynne wrote:
Regarding the Falcynn thing though, I'm pretty sure he's said that.
Falcynn's basically said:
I was away for my filming thing [insert a bit of advertising for it]
The other thing was that he did mention the whole well I'm trying to contribute people complained about that in previous games and I always agree with people etc etc. I can find that post for you if you don't find it Foolishness, but he does mention something like I'm trying to participate more kinda thing.

Why do you keep going back to the same thing Foolishness? So if I say OH MY GAWD I DONT WANNA DIE DONT KILL ME you'll be okay with not lynching me? I mean if you keep repeating that it's scummy then it's not like as a scum or a townie I would want to keep doing that if I wanted to get rid of your suspicions. But seriously I don't see the point here, it's like when XeliN was like omg you didn't claim town to me so you suspicious. But like, who cares, it's not like as a townie or as a mafia I would pick differently in my opinion. If I'm doing something so obviously scummy and I keep doing it then like, it's just me doing it... you can't really take anything out of it other than your first instinct of that's scummy, and nothing I can do now will change that.

Like I said, I'll wait 'til after OpZ is lynched to deal with defending myself and what nots. Let's get this first one over with. Everyone's pretty much like yeah okay Foolishness is going to be lynched tomorrow, it's not like you're jumping on defending yourself either. So should I assume you're mafia because you're doing what you said is scummy? >_>

I am defending myself in my posts. I know I told everyone not to read page 44, but if you look near the bottom at my post where I outline what would happen if Zona was alive and I was mafia with him, we almost had the game instantly won. Now factor in the fact that I miscounted the number of townspeople, so we'd actually be in a much better position. Obviously we'll have to redo the counting to see the result, but the overall point is I wouldn't have modkilled my mafia buddy if I was indeed mafia like everyone suspects.

I'll be okay with not lynching you if you actually tried to defend yourself instead of passively agreeing to this town plan that involves killing you.

At the same time, the reason I'm not heavily defending myself in my posts is for the same reason you said above in your last paragraph. You said you'll wait until after Opz is lynched to defend yourself. I'm more or less just going to wait until tomorrow to defend myself as well. Everyone seems to have agreed to hold off on killing me until tomorrow, and I figure we're better off discussing who might be mafia now while everyone's alive then worry solely about me defending myself. Unless ya'll think it's pertinent that I defend myself ahead of time we should be thinking about potential lynches.

Consequently, if we've all agreed to the plan to lynch Opz, kill you at night and lynch me tomorrow, Opz should be defending himself and you should wait until after he's lynched to defend yourself (and I do believe that's what you just said you would do).
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 08 2010 21:35 GMT
#920
FFS modkills.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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