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johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
May 03 2010 08:26 GMT
#301
On May 03 2010 15:02 Bill Murray wrote:
if medics dont protect me they're terrible players

what if there are no medics?
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 09:33 GMT
#302
if there are no medics the latter picking townies are terrible players
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 09:37 GMT
#303
(or forgot to vote)
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 09:57 GMT
#304
but assuming they are, they need to protect me, so i can be confirmed as a townie
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 03 2010 10:26 GMT
#305
Stupid. I thought we had another 24hrs to vote.

As far as the inventor goes. It seems like there are two possible routes. Protection from mafia(bulletproof vests) or Detective kits. With the mafia only at a KP of 1, and the SK being able to shoot through vests, detective kits seem like a much better option. If we can get a bunch of detective kits out and about, it will make us much more likely to win. Keeping in mind that we possibly have a completely useless alignment cop, and Zona's 5:1 claim, lots of dt kits are probably our surest way towards a victory.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't be creative though. Ideally you would combine the two roles in a sweet-ass invention. Like some sort of security robot who can protect you at night and be sent out to investigate during the day. The robot could capture everyone who visits you at night and force them to reveal their role/alignment. Etc
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 10:43 GMT
#306
protect me medics, im releasing the news tomorrow.
in other news, radfield likely scum or talks at times that seem detracting and anti-town
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 03 2010 10:58 GMT
#307
How is what I'm saying either distracting or anti-town? I'm eager to hear.

If you want to go balls to the wall with the news that's fine, but it doesn't make it a good idea. It doesn't actually help us at all, certainly helps us less than the things i'm putting forward. You COULD create 'Fox News', which doles out faulty clues and we would never know about it. I'm proposing you invent something that is obviously pro-town, you're arguing for something that is ambiguous at best, useless at worst.

Consider from our point of veiw. You're claiming Inventor, but none of us know your alignment. If you were mafia, this is exactly what you would try to do. Instead of inventing something directly useful for the town, you're inventing something that seems useful, but which can actually derail and misdirect. Do you see my point?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 03 2010 11:08 GMT
#308
Now explain why providing alignment detection kits would be harmful to the town?

I realize if you were mafia you could just hit whoever you give them to, thereby nullifying the effects. But that's a completely acceptable outcome. It would render a potentially powerful mafia role useless. On the other hand, if you are town aligned, you would be spamming dt kits all over town and we would work our way towards figuring out everyone's alignment. With 2-4 dt kits out there in town hands, this game becomes a cake-walk. What you're suggesting does absolutely nothing for us. I realize you are probably not mafia, and if you are we'll find out soon anyways given that you will be among the first to be checked up on. But that doesn't mean your plan is sound. Stop thinking about whether i'm a townie or not, and just look at what i'm saying.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
May 03 2010 13:24 GMT
#309
radfield is actually making very good points; unfortunately since he's talking to bill we won't see a sensible response.

keep in mind bill's reluctance to do anything useful as of yet..

question for ace: how does the invention naming system work? can i invent a gun and call it a dt kit? or what if it's a really ambiguous thing, i.e. a beer bottle that you can hit people over the head with to roleblock them ... will it be just called beer bottle or roleblock bottle or what?

basically who decides on the name and how relevant is it to the item's function?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-03 13:46:30
May 03 2010 13:46 GMT
#310
This games fun
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
May 03 2010 14:36 GMT
#311
Scaramanga was just temp banned for 2 weeks by pachi.

That account was created on 2008-03-06 20:21:26 and had 5317 posts.

Reason: By Request


Riiight.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
May 03 2010 14:40 GMT
#312
Never mind - Scaramanga is not playing in this one, irrelevant ban.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 03 2010 18:20 GMT
#313
On May 03 2010 19:26 Radfield wrote:
Stupid. I thought we had another 24hrs to vote.

As far as the inventor goes. It seems like there are two possible routes. Protection from mafia(bulletproof vests) or Detective kits. With the mafia only at a KP of 1, and the SK being able to shoot through vests, detective kits seem like a much better option. If we can get a bunch of detective kits out and about, it will make us much more likely to win. Keeping in mind that we possibly have a completely useless alignment cop, and Zona's 5:1 claim, lots of dt kits are probably our surest way towards a victory.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't be creative though. Ideally you would combine the two roles in a sweet-ass invention. Like some sort of security robot who can protect you at night and be sent out to investigate during the day. The robot could capture everyone who visits you at night and force them to reveal their role/alignment. Etc


Instead of Bulletproof kits, make bullet proof vests that function just like the veteran role. SK kills go through BP vests, but they don't flat out kill a veteran do they? Or bill could make a pack of bandages that the player can choose to prot one player a night, and get himself some extra protection.

Veteran with BP in the game>>>BP (given the SK factor)
Mafia can hit a vet, and vet claim BP, what do you think, the mafia are gonna waste ANOTHER hit on the possible BP, seeing as they know the first hit failed?

And vet protects against SK, so the SK get's slowed down by it too. And if the dude gets hit we know who the mafia hit via bill/whoever got invention.

p.s. remember, just have it be a bullet proof vest, regardless if it works like a vet, or a bulletproof role, just my idea how to better protect the town if thats the path you intend to take.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 19:33 GMT
#314
radfield, you are completely wrong here, and the fact that jeejee is all up on your jock makes me believe you all are TOTALLY not scum together.

Anyways, you think I'm doing this for the clues? fuck no.
If you are that dumb, you need to gtfo of my game son.
If you are seriously a town aligned player, though, you need to quit arguing with me and jump on this train to glory-land.

I'll explain myself to you, like I had to explain myself to someone younger than me earlier. I am not doing this because I think that we will get 1 damn clue out of it. I know we will, that's cool, whatever.
The reason I am doing this is because I am say "medics, protect me, i'm calling my shot" I am TELLING the town what I'm doing BEFORE I do it. How is this not "pro-town"?

JeeJee:"keep in mind bill's reluctance to do anything useful as of yet.."

I'd like to highlight this, as it is a lot scummier than most noobs will imagine. Good players will pick up on posts such as this, though, as they are taking away from someone who is trying to lead the town to a victory. Furthermore, look into his shifting of the subject into "game-theory". That's also scummy behavior.

I know I'm not normally that good of a scum-hunter, and that you all have no reason to trust me yet, but i'll rectify that right now. I have just come from the other side of the fence. I have just been a mafia godfather. I know how they think right now moreso than I ever have in my life while playing as a town-aligned player in a mafia game. On top of that, i CAN and WILL organize the town. You all are free to join the town circle. Before someone is like "durrr we canst PM youz guyz", go read my role. Before someone is like "you could be lying!!!" go read my game as mafia... my ONE game in my ENTIRE life as mafia.


Radfield, JeeJee, If you don't think I'm trying to be helpful you are most likely scum
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 19:38 GMT
#315
The plan is this: I am doing something that is confirmable tonight. I have told you what I'm doing; however, that is not what will lead us to victory.

Night 1: Confirmation
Night 2: Beginning to create a town circle
Later Night: Unleash Hell

Sorry guys, but I honestly believe that having a confirmed town player > some one time use kit

obviously, i could call my shot on something else, but clues kick ass and are pro-town
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-03 19:46:29
May 03 2010 19:45 GMT
#316
On May 03 2010 22:24 JeeJee wrote:
radfield is actually making very good points; unfortunately since he's talking to bill we won't see a sensible response.

keep in mind bill's reluctance to do anything useful as of yet..

question for ace: how does the invention naming system work? can i invent a gun and call it a dt kit? or what if it's a really ambiguous thing, i.e. a beer bottle that you can hit people over the head with to roleblock them ... will it be just called beer bottle or roleblock bottle or what?

basically who decides on the name and how relevant is it to the item's function?


The name has to match the invention or at least be related in some way. A beer bottle is fine. But a gun thats really a DT kit isn't.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 20:38 GMT
#317
Well, I have just been informed I would have to only give my newspaper to one person. I had considered this, and as a result I will be inventing someone else like a gun to give someone. I am not 100% sure what it will be yet.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 03 2010 20:47 GMT
#318
I agree with a lot of what you're saying Bill, so let me clarify my position.

I think it's great that you're declaring your invention to the town, and great that you have a plan.

I absolutely think the medics should be protecting you. I'm open to the option of creating a town circle around you.

What I have issue with is the actual invention that you're putting out there. It's not necessarily bad, but surely you're open to the possibility that there might be a better day 1 invention for you to invent. What I think is anti-town, is the take-no-suggestions approach that you're using. Why not let us as a town figure out what the best action to take is, as opposed to simply saying, "It's gonna be the newspaper! If you disagree you must be anti-town!"

How do you feel about letting the town have some say in your inventions and discussing the merits of different inventions before deciding?

Also, to be clear, I was not imagining a one time use dt kit. I meant an invention that permanently gives someone dt abilities.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 21:12 GMT
#319
it's a one time deal, radfield, it doesn't work like that. i just had that clarified. this is going to make creating a town circle a bit more difficult than I had previously planned. I have an idea, though, so I also am not going to be giving out armor or guns (right now) because I have no idea who is town. hope that makes sense to you as to why I would do that.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
May 03 2010 21:28 GMT
#320
On May 03 2010 00:36 Falcynn wrote:
Also, maybe I'm not thinking straight right now, but I'm almost leaning towards setting up a townie to be lynched on the second day so we can tell all cops in this thread to investigate them. That way all the the cops will know fairly quickly what sanity they have.


Crazy scummy idea (check)

On May 03 2010 00:39 Falcynn wrote:
belief that mafia only have a nightly kp of 1 will give us some leeway so we don't feel pressured to hit scum everyday.

Not pressured to hit scum? lack of scumhunting (check)

On May 03 2010 01:04 Falcynn wrote:
Sure, hell if enough people actually think my cop plan is any good, I'll even offer myself up for sacrifice.


softclaiming green? (check)


3 strikes on falcynn in my book. likely scum. lynch this guy.

Best case scenario: He's red/sk, we lynch scum
Worst case scenario: He's not scum, but is useless, and we aren't really hurting ourselves because hes already said himself he's a green role.

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