EPT2 DTs seem to have checked the same target, which was bussed to a second target. Whether or not this is a fluke or someone's lying intensely is yet to be found.
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2 DTs seem to have checked the same target, which was bussed to a second target. Whether or not this is a fluke or someone's lying intensely is yet to be found. | ||
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On March 16 2010 11:02 Bill Murray wrote: I feel like you've been acting a lot scummier than I have, zona. I am all but confirmed green at this point, as I was very outspoken against Malongo. That's not how it works. | ||
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Lets look at that brief period of pre lynch spam: Bill murray spams prior to the lynch: If malongo is red his team are going to be raging i hope malongo is red... i felt like he was... but i'm not usually good at telling Why would someone taunt like that? Well, its pretty easy to figure out. Bill is trying to distance himself from Malongo. But its not just that, lets look here: Malogo is inactive, that is all. It's not a "tell" - he can do far better if he is mafia trying to actually play the game. He didn't even try to blend in, he just fell off the radar. It's blind luck now if he is red, not skill on our part. Citizen posts something decent. GJ. BM replies: well, citi.zen, you don't know how many people i pm'ed saying i suspected malongo.... want me to retrieve them? Prior to Malongo even dying, BM is trying to play up his 'i wanted to kill him' status. Why? Lets look at the votelist: Here's the vote slightly before the end: Abenson Votes: 7 BloodyC0bbler (x3) Fishball d3_crescentia Foolishness madnessman johnnyspazz XeliN citi.zen Malongo Votes: 6 Incognito BloodyC0bbler (x3) Bill Murray ~OpZ~ Not so terrible, but abenson's gonna die over malongo. If anyone's going to die, Mafia would MUUUUUUUUCH rather abenson than no one. Bill, shortly thereafter abandons the Malongo train. Hopping onto me. nemY follows suit. Bill then decides to fuck around and throw a vote on nemY. That shit don't make sense. Cynan and Sidesprang vote Malongo and Iaaan votes against sidesprang. Ok. So Cynan and sidesprang are probably legit. At this point, votes are tied with Abenson going to be killed. Zona throws a vote on Abenson, pushing him to 9. Abenson Votes: 9 BloodyC0bbler (x3) Fishball d3_crescentia Foolishness madnessman johnnyspazz XeliN citi.zen tree.hugger Zona Malongo Votes: 8 Incognito BloodyC0bbler (x3) Bill Murray ~OpZ~ Abenson CynanMachae sidesprang Zona has just pushed abenson over the top. Is he mafia or just wanted another lynch? I dunno. But then shit goes crazy: Spazz, who's on Abenson, switches to Malongo, putting it to 9-8 in Malongo lynch territory. Spazz looks legit here. This is a bad outcome for mafia because they know Malongo's afk and they're trying to net a free kill. But then bill switches back to Abenson (9-9) and johnny throws the final vote off the malongo train onto bill on bill's insistence (9-8 Abenson). Once again, these last shifts happen LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES before the deadline. Basically, what do we have here? Its bill murray fucking with our votes again to get an innocent killed. But not only does he fuck with votes, he asks for roleclaims and tries to bolster his credibility before malongo even dies? Are you serious? How could he know malongo would flip red? Why would he, even before the flip, start building this 'i'm green' campaign? | ||
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On March 16 2010 12:35 flamewheel91 wrote: Yes sir, upon death bus the alignment of the bus driver will be revealed. + Show Spoiler + Sí, señor, tras la muerte de la alineación del conductor del autobús será revelado. Oh good. | ||
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On March 16 2010 13:15 johnnyspazz wrote: I partially agree, but you can't deny that from the mafia perspective getting the hit on Abenson would have been a bonus. i think my decision to let two pretty inactive players die instead of just one wasn't that bad | ||
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On March 16 2010 14:01 CynanMachae wrote: The thing is that from both perspectives it was better to get both Malongo/Abenson Mafia get a freekill on a townie, town get a double lynch on two players that were highly suspected I was also considering switching to Abenson if Malongo was too get lynched + modkilled too. I got screwed up thinking the day would end at 10 EST but anyway it went ok Not entirely. While it may have seemed fine if there was a clear push towards abenson that doesn't explain why BM would be switching votes, taunting and trying to build credibility off Malongo's redness prior to the actual lynch. The killing of abenson might have saved us some grief later because he was the miller, but trying to game the vote system twice in a row is pretty rock solid proof the kid is mafia. So its irrelevant if townies were okay with it; its the mafia reaction to the lynch that matters. Once they realize malongo is going to die, its a simple matter to try and build credibility by pretending to bus him. BM voted abenson, claims he was the key in killing malongo (when it was BC who pushed for him out of the blue), and fucks with the vote and kills an innocent. But no town member can 'call dibs' on the kill on malongo as such because of exactly what citi.zen said: the guy fucking killed himself. If anything it was BC and Incog's push that sealed the deal, which makes me think both are pretty cool dudes. | ||
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On March 17 2010 02:23 Bill Murray wrote: L has wanted me killed this whole game. Also, how can me accusing someone of being red, and them ending up as red, make me look red? If I was red, I would want to win. I am a competitive fuck. There's no way in fucking hell I would accuse someone from my own team. You all are really dumb if you think I'm red. You didn't do much more than distance yourself from Malongo. You only started to play up your opposition towards him when you knew he'd die because he wasn't showing up in your IRC channel or responding to PMs. Your defense here is so poor its pretty hilarious. You start with the admission that you'd think you're red if you weren't you; Well, then you probably should recognize that you should probably die for that. In future games don't paint yourself red by fucking with the votes two days in a row.I think the best part is wherein you ask me to die after you die as an attempt to dissuade me; Buddy, I already made that deal. I'm already good for it. If you ARE town, use the time that's remaining to analyse people who aren't me, because if you die and flip town, I'll die the next day as per the above agreement. When you flip town, people can refer back and go "ok legit townie suspicions". If your analysis is garbage, however, mafia's probably going to take it and run with it, so try to make it good. Even your PMs are scummy as fuck. You straight up say "HEY IM TOWN BELIEVE ME AND TELL ME SHIT". | ||
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On March 17 2010 02:59 Versatile wrote: incog, you're so sweet to think of me when you're PMing other players too! you loooooooooooooove me, you wanna kisssssssssssss me, you wanna huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug me a la gracie lou freebush. Start posting content please. Thx, L | ||
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Take a guess at who. | ||
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On March 17 2010 07:17 XeliN wrote: If your going to persist with this L then someone ought to DT check Bill, if he returns a town role then you ought to be lynched, unless part of your suspicion is that he could also be the godfather. After how hard I pre-gamed him, I wouldn't be surprised if his strategy was to try to get DT checked as green then push against me. BM has asked for DT checks in the past. If he's green, he wouldn't be asking for checks. Period. XeliN, if BM flips red you're probably going to need to answer for this. Thanks. | ||
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Dude, you're crazy. I'm trying to defend my name against an idiotic lynch. By admitting that if you were anyone else that you'd lynch you? Lol, okay. Nice defense. Feel free to have your team not hit me tonight because I'm going to open up the shit floodgates on you kids tomorrow. In other news, Iaaan please contact me. I want to survive the night so gimme a ring. | ||
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On March 17 2010 08:09 Bill Murray wrote: If you all want to have me pulling a t_co go ahead and kill me. it happens every game i've ever been in. i suppose it is unjust to want and jealously crave survival when i really have nothing i can contribute to the town. i would rather you all lynch me than someone who is actually blue. Do you even see what you just quoted? You're our next lynch target unless our DTs find a red. Period. There's not even a shred of debate at this point. | ||
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Second, those 2 DT checks? They were bus driven off sidespring onto me. Both DTs got my role back as Mad Hatter, which is what I am. One DT i know about via incog. He doesn't trust me and didn't want to claim despite the fact that I'm a fucking hatter and therefore act as the perfect mouth for him. The second PM'd me directly early in day 1 and we set up the bus driver shunt on purpose to have me rolechecked on day 1 as per the plan I set out. Third, I need DTs to PM me the results of their rolechecks. Or, DT #2, if you don't believe me, PM it to the guy you normally talk to, and then guy you normally talk to PM me. Fourth, Iaaan has been shitting around in PMs and claiming that he's the mafia bus driver. I've heard this from two people. He just told me he's townie, so I'd like him to fucking explain himself. Fifth. No medic protection on the BGs? Musta been on me. If you trust me, give me a PM. If you don't, don't. The protections for tomorrow should be pretty obvious anyways. I just want to make sure you don't protect the bus drivin' target (which we're probably going to use tonight). Here's the thing; That "I'll trade my life for this lynch on Bill Murray" thing? That was specifically because I'd blow up another 2 people that i think are mafia, and thus I think town will not waste the lynch even if they use it on me. Recap: Lols. | ||
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On March 17 2010 11:29 citi.zen wrote: Pretty good and straight forward thus far. One question for you: was the one DT you know of BC? Keep in ind that the mafia already knwos if he is red or not, so this answer simply brings clarity to the town. Question for Incognito: how did the "2nd DT" come to trust you on night one, if they were not able to role-check you? Its irrelevant who the DTs are to you. Sorry, but that's the truth. A number of people have confirmed themselves by various methods, but I'm not about to openly TELL mafia who they should be hitting and those that aren't worth the time. I can, however, tell you that there are a few traps set up with regards to a few claims. To the rest of the town; Please stop fucking asking. You don't want this information public. The people that are confirmed are going to stay underwraps because getting picked off at an equal rate to the speed that DTs can check them is pretty shit. | ||
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On March 17 2010 12:20 citi.zen wrote: Nobody asked you to reveal any information about private claims (yet). My question is specific about BC - a very different matter: not telling the town whether or not BC is a DT does not protect him. BC is either lying or he is not. If he is telling the truth, he is a mafia target right now - the mafia does not need you confirmation, they already know he isn't one of them and there are no more bodyguards. If anything, it helps the medics. If he is lying, he is most likely red and should be lynched.' Yeah, you asked me to reveal information about a claim. I told you I'm not telling you fuck all. I know 'who is most likely red and should be lynched'. This isn't my first game. If BC is attempting a gambit and I'm not railing on him, then that means that I can confirm him within a short timespan. So calm down. | ||
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On March 17 2010 12:41 Incognito wrote: Nop given the BG situation its time for a power play. Time to get this game wrapped up. Well, I'm still not 100% sure that you're not mafia bus, and it seems like you talk to way too many people in pms given the amount of link backs I'm getting to you from random ass people. That said, I'd like the other bus driver to give me a shout. I know who you are. If you've been lying in PMs about being a driver, you're a moran. | ||
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